You guys need to get ready for the possibility that we don’t sign Tee OR Trey

[XsandOs]

(03-02-2025, 06:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You might be onto something, when times are good injuries hurt less. When we're struggling, injuries can be incapacitating.

Another possibility may be that when a player's future is not guaranteed with the Team, he may not want to exacerbate an injury and jeopardize his next contract. Most players sustain some injury during a season and play through it. But if a player feels offended, abused or taken advantage of by the Team, he simply does not play through the injury. Why shoot up pre-game and at half-time, then go through the week in pain, then do it all over week after week - especially if you know your sacrifice will not get rewarded by the Team?

Tee has enough tape in the league, so he doesn't have to prove himself as a player. He is already viewed as a top shelf #1 WR. PFF ranked his as #6 WR of 2024.

I am skeptical of this narrative of Higgins as injury prone. I feel that one needs to look at all circumstances surrounding a player before coming to a conclusion.

I guess we will find out if this narrative holds true. If the the league perceives him as injury prone, no Team will pursue a contract with him at numbers he is seeking; thus, we will get no trade offers. Although he is already disadvantaged because of the draft pick compensation. The clear signal would have been if he was not tagged. 

If some board members feel that signing him would jeopardize the overall construct of the Team, then that makes sense to me. However; I disagree with the notion that he is not worth the numbers he is seeking because of his history of injuries.  

[Luvnit2]

Injuries will dictate the amount a team is willing to guarantee. My guess ishe will have multiple teams (maybe Bengals) willing to pay him 120 million over 4 years, but the guarantee will be 55 to 60% maxium. Chase willget hs money and a likely giarantee of 65 to 70%. Those are huge numbers of potential dollars lost by Tee due to inury.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-03-2025, 10:45 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well Burrow had him last 2 yrs did we make playoffs, especially this year

Because of an inept defense. The offense was definately playoff worthy.

[XsandOs]

(03-04-2025, 11:52 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Injuries will dictate the amount a team is willing to guarantee. My guess ishe will have multiple teams (maybe Bengals) willing to pay him 120 million over 4 years, but the guarantee will be 55 to 60% maxium. Chase willget hs money and a likely giarantee of 65 to 70%. Those are huge numbers of potential dollars lost by Tee due to inury.

Yup. That is part of the overall numbers he will be seeking. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(03-04-2025, 05:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Because of an inept defense. The offense was definately playoff worthy.

Worth noting that even if we had made the playoffs both of those years...
2023: Tee left Week 17 early while we were still in playoff hunt and missed Week 18 entirely.
2024: Tee left Week 18 early with an injury while we were still in playoff hunt.

Questionable if he would have been able to play either wildcard game anyway.

[007BengalsFan]

(03-04-2025, 05:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Because of an inept defense. The offense was definately playoff worthy.

Offense was pretty good most of the year but they did fail at times.  There is no excuse for scoring 10 points against a team like the Patriots.  If the offense scores 17 we go to the playoffs.

[Bengalbug]

(03-05-2025, 12:59 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Offense was pretty good most of the year but they did fail at times.  There is no excuse for scoring 10 points against a team like the Patriots.  If the offense scores 17 we go to the playoffs.

You can pin the offense on that Loss. You could also argue the bengals lost to the chargers because the offense was so bad the first 30 minutes, but so was the defenses. Both units stepped up in the second half… ultimately burrow had the ball in his hands (I think twice?) at the end of the game and was unsuccessful in pulling out the win.

You can give credit to the defense for the win in week 18, and even against the giants. 19 and 17 points respectively isn’t enough on offense. So the offense got bailed out on the positive side twice, out of 9 wins.

The chiefs game was a tough game, where both sides I believe played well. Can’t pin that loss on anyone, except maybe that horrid PI call. But Mahomes only had time to throw as we dropped 8, and had a player on the field that had no business. But the chiefs loss you can’t really pin on side of the ball, Lou if anyone for the PI play.

But, when you score 33 (Washington), 38 (Baltimore), 34 (Baltimore), and
38 (Steelers), you need to come away 4-0… not 0-4.

If the bengals win patriots or chargers, playoffs.

If the bengals win any of the 4 games they lost scoring 33 points or more… playoffs.

11 instances where a team scored 33 or more and lost in 2024. Only two teams had it happen more than once. Bengals 4x, colts 2x.

[kalibengal]

(02-27-2025, 01:45 AM)bfine32 Wrote: OK, I'm ready

Been ready for 5 yrs

[*ochocincos*]

I know talks with outside FAs starts in just a few days, and some will say just be patient, but I think it's ok for people to air their grievances in the moment if things are not looking good even if things change for the better in the near future.

Right now, we got Pratt and Hendrickson wanting out, Hubbard retiring, Hilton and BJ Hill hitting FA, and Rankins cut.
That's potentially 6 new starters the Bengals need to implement.
None of the incumbents really give any confidence (for me) except MAYBE one of CTB, Dax Hill, or Turner taking Hilton's spot.

Add to that 3 new starters on offense in Cappa (cut), Higgins (FA), and Gesicki (FA).
Possibly another starter to replace Volson.

We could be looking at a VERY different personnel on the Bengals this year, and along with a new DC and few key position coaches, it could yet again be another season where we see early problems that are going to take until middle toward end of the season to iron out as the new folks adjust.

[ERIC1]

(03-04-2025, 03:09 AM)XsandOs Wrote: Another possibility may be that when a player's future is not guaranteed with the Team, he may not want to exacerbate an injury and jeopardize his next contract. Most players sustain some injury during a season and play through it. But if a player feels offended, abused or taken advantage of by the Team, he simply does not play through the injury. Why shoot up pre-game and at half-time, then go through the week in pain, then do it all over week after week - especially if you know your sacrifice will not get rewarded by the Team?

Tee has enough tape in the league, so he doesn't have to prove himself as a player. He is already viewed as a top shelf #1 WR. PFF ranked his as #6 WR of 2024.

I am skeptical of this narrative of Higgins as injury prone. I feel that one needs to look at all circumstances surrounding a player before coming to a conclusion.

I guess we will find out if this narrative holds true. If the the league perceives him as injury prone, no Team will pursue a contract with him at numbers he is seeking; thus, we will get no trade offers. Although he is already disadvantaged because of the draft pick compensation. The clear signal would have been if he was not tagged. 

If some board members feel that signing him would jeopardize the overall construct of the Team, then that makes sense to me. However; I disagree with the notion that he is not worth the numbers he is seeking because of his history of injuries.  

you are "skeptical" of the narrative regarding higgins health?..

[ERIC1]

(03-02-2025, 04:09 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: If Higgins isn't on the team i have no doubt we will bring in 1 or more receivers. I do doubt that they are his equivalent though.

yeah ..they might be able to play a full season

[TecmoBengals]

(03-07-2025, 10:10 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I know talks with outside FAs starts in just a few days, and some will say just be patient, but I think it's ok for people to air their grievances in the moment if things are not looking good even if things change for the better in the near future.

Spot on as I maintain part of posting here is about making hot takes as stuff unfolds in real time.

[higgy100]

(03-05-2025, 12:59 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Offense was pretty good most of the year but they did fail at times.  There is no excuse for scoring 10 points against a team like the Patriots.  If the offense scores 17 we go to the playoffs.

It was the first game of the year and they got screwed by the officials admittedly on one TD and fumbled the ball away on the one yard line for another so that was 24 points scored as bad as they looked. TO's and bad calls can screw over the best offenses out there and they do.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Don’t worry they signed Tanner Hudson.