PFF Grades vs KC

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(Yesterday, 01:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That would end up being a huge disappointment then, as many were hyped about Battle after last year.
Essentially demoting him to pure backup seems like a silly thing to do.
But we knew either Bell or Battle would have to sit some if having both and Geno Stone.
Bell brings that leadership in an overall very young DB room.

I think as the season progresses, we will see more of Battle switching in and out with Bell. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 04:36 PM)ochocincos Wrote: So what you're saying is...Andrei Iosivas is John Ross?! 
Have you ever seen John Ross and Andrei Iosivas in the same room? I haven't.
They're the same person, confirmed.

Already has 2 TD's, could be a much better RZ threat than Ross ever was just this season and I saw the ninja lol

They are nothing alike as far as WR's go.

[*ochocincos*]

(Yesterday, 05:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Already has 2 TD's, could be a much better RZ threat than Ross ever was just this season and I saw the ninja lol

They are nothing alike as far as WR's go.

I was referring to 2018 when Ross had 210 yards but 7 TDs.
Iosivas last year had just 116 yards but 4 TDs. This year he has just 33 yards but 2 TDs.

I know their skill sets and measurables are not similar.
Was just pointing out that Iosivas is not producing yards, just TDs, like Ross did in 2018.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(7 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: I was referring to 2018 when Ross had 210 yards but 7 TDs.
Iosivas last year had just 116 yards but 4 TDs. This year he has just 33 yards but 2 TDs.

I know their skill sets and measurables are not similar.
Was just pointing out that Iosivas is not producing yards, just TDs, like Ross did in 2018.

That is true, can compare those stats. But just the build on them, just nothing alike and John Ross wasn't a punk like some say.

One is 6'0" 200 pounds maybe and the other is 6'3" and around 215 or so and strong.

Expect Iosivas to get more yards as the season goes on though unless he gets hurt or Burton emerges big time.

[*ochocincos*]

(6 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is true, can compare those stats. But just the build on them, just nothing alike and John Ross wasn't a punk like some say.

One is 6'0" 200 pounds maybe and the other is 6'3" and around 215 or so and strong.

Expect Iosivas to get more yards as the season goes on though unless he gets hurt or Burton emerges big time.

I'm not 100% sure though.
Chase is Option 1 in the offense.
You'd think Higgins Option 2 once he's back.
Iosivas may actually fall to Option 4 if Gesicki keeps playing like he did last game.

FWIW, a player averaging just 30 yards per game ends up still hitting 500 on the season, believe it or not.
If Iosivas ends up 4th option, he might be more around 20-25 YPG, which would end up putting him around 350-450.

Another thing that could dig into Iosivas's production and target share is if the Bengals deploy more 12 personnel, putting WR3 on the bench more.

What I typically expect for average receiving per game for 1st vs 2nd vs 3rd vs 4th option in passing game is something like:
Option 1 - 65+ yards per game
Option 2 - 50+ yards per game
Option 3 - 35+ yards per game (closer to 40+ if a WR, closer to 30+ if a TE)
Option 4 - 20+ yards per game