Jamarr Chase needs to realize

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(09-22-2024, 11:23 PM)SladeX Wrote: Im not real happy with him right now.

Diva? Cancer? I dislike either one.

Intensely.

I'm pretty happy with one of the two best players we have.

He just sees coaching idiocy and a cheap FO. Every time we throw the ball deep to him, good shit happens. Then Zac gets back to cooking with his playsheet to use him as a decoy and feed the ball to scrubs and we go back to passes behind and around the LoS.

[HarleyDog]

(09-20-2024, 06:48 PM)Housh Wrote: The things that’s making him mad really is that no one else is eating. 

IDK, Iosivas is eating. I brought him up after game one and got ridiculed. Burrow likes the kid and he's got some good stats. 3 TDS in the last 2 games. Kid can catch the ball. But, he's young and also makes mistakes. He's going to be good for us. And trust me, I'm so damn pissed right now about our team I'm trying to find that silver lining, but that's all I got right now until I convince myself to back off this Bengals ledge. 

[Chezaugie]

From a business perspective, I believe signing Chase to a huge contract will hurt the team. Let him play out the rookie contract and spend the tens (if not hundreds) of millions on defense and the offensive line. If he walks in two years, so be it. The Bengals need to build a team and, right now, they are just building a face for the franchise. I just hope, in the future, Burrow's contract won't be compared to the Reds Griffey and Votto strangleholds (not to mention Homer Bailey).

The Bengal "model" is broken while many other "bottom dweller" NFL teams are flourishing. I hate to say it, but, Pittsburgh has always had the best way to run a franchise. If only.

Bottom line for me: The QB (and elite WRs) is NOT a way to success. A great system with coaching/management/ drafting is the way to go. The Patriots and Steelers proved this over and over again.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(09-24-2024, 08:10 PM)Chezaugie Wrote: From a business perspective, I believe signing Chase to a huge contract will hurt the team. Let him play out the rookie contract and spend the tens (if not hundreds) of millions on defense and the offensive line. If he walks in two years, so be it. The Bengals need to build a team and, right now, they are just building a face for the franchise. I just hope, in the future, Burrow's contract won't be compared to the Reds Griffey and Votto strangleholds (not to mention Homer Bailey).

The Bengal "model" is broken while many other "bottom dweller" NFL teams are flourishing. I hate to say it, but, Pittsburgh has always had the best way to run a franchise. If only.

Bottom line for me: The QB (and elite WRs) is NOT a way to success. A great system with coaching/management/ drafting is the way to go. The Patriots and Steelers proved this over and over again.

There's just so many bad hot takes here that it's impressive....

If you don't extend Chase, he won't play for you next year and will demand a trade. If he demands a trade (along with Tee leaving) Burrow will not want to play for you anymore either. You will have then successfully alienated your two best players and nobody will want to come to join you in FA unless you overpay. You can't use the lure of an elite QB because he'll be unhappy and you can't use the lure of playoff success because it's looking like two straight years of missing the playoffs which won't change if you have an unhappy Burrow throwing to nothing but scrubs.

The fact that you even mentioned Votto, a HoF player and top-5 all-time Red, as a "stranglehold" when the Reds could have at any time built a team around him and chose not to, and then mentioned HOMER BAILEY in the same sentence as a HoFer? Enough said.

Pittsburgh (gross that you're gargling them here in Jungle Noise) hasn't won a playoff game in 7 years. They DID lose playoff games to both the Browns and Blake Bortles in that timespan, though. Heck, they have only won 1 divisional playoff game in the last 13 years. They have missed the playoffs 3 times in the last 6 years, and if it weren't for the BS 7th seed, it would be 5 times.

How have the Patriots done since they lost their QB and had zero weapons of note? It's not been great there.


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The only thing I will agree with in your whole post is that good coaching, managing, and drafting is good... but the Bengals have none of those and saying "that's the way to go" while ignoring the reality that barring a new owner, it's not happening here, makes it a pointless reason of why you should get rid of and alienate your best players.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Not extending a top 5 pick that you actually hit on would be the most poverty franchise move ever.

[Housh]

(09-24-2024, 09:08 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not extending a top 5 pick that you actually hit on would be the most poverty franchise move ever.

Especially after you told your fans to accept a shit defense cause we were too cash strapped to keep Burrow and Chase and have a solid defense....then you turn around and dont even sign Tee or Chase

[Emphasis]

I'll assume Chase has a great season for himself in 2024, in which case the Bengals should definitely extend him.

I don't like the holdout he did, but if he earns a big extension then so be it and the Bengals will be better for it.

[Destro]

If the team stinks in up the rest of the year, you think he rethinks even staying? May want greener pastures ( in wins and money ).

[Whatever]

(09-24-2024, 08:06 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: IDK, Iosivas is eating. I brought him up after game one and got ridiculed. Burrow likes the kid and he's got some good stats. 3 TDS in the last 2 games. Kid can catch the ball. But, he's young and also makes mistakes. He's going to be good for us. And trust me, I'm so damn pissed right now about our team I'm trying to find that silver lining, but that's all I got right now until I convince myself to back off this Bengals ledge. 

Yoshi is not "eating."

Kid has 10 catches for 85 yards on 17 targets.  He's done well in the red zone, but less than 30 yards a game is not eating.  And he's played 84% of the offensive snaps.  That's bad for a starter.

[Housh]

(09-24-2024, 10:38 PM)Destro Wrote: If the team stinks in up the rest of the year, you think he rethinks even staying? May want greener pastures ( in wins and money ).

I just said this shit on a Twitter post


Some of the reason you lock up superstars is cause the superstar market is way more volatile than the role player market


Hate to shit on the guy but there’s a Sheldon Rankins in every free agency class


There’s only gonna be 1 Jamarr Chase.

Why give that guy ANY reason to even THINK about not resigning.

He should’ve had a deal the exact minute to told the front office he wanted to be here.

[Bengal Dude]

(09-25-2024, 12:17 AM)Whatever Wrote: Yoshi is not "eating."

Kid has 10 catches for 85 yards on 17 targets.  He's done well in the red zone, but less than 30 yards a game is not eating.  And he's played 84% of the offensive snaps.  That's bad for a starter.

Something that has shocked me with Yoshi is that his longest reception is only 16 yards. Not only that, his 7 career TDs are all under 10 yards. I feel like we should give him a shot at just going long and see what happens.

[BengalYankee]

(09-21-2024, 09:08 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I fear he's becoming a Diva!

Gee, we never had a Diva on this small market team before.