Duke Tobin and the Bengals are WHIFFING in the draft

[NUGDUKWE]

Listening to Goodberry and he made an excellent point. The Bengals have they're valued positions that they decide to pay at the league top value if a player is there. We have all fallen into the thinking that you can't pay a guard top money or can't pay a safety top money or can't pay 2 wr top money. But the point he made was your not going to hit all draft picks and the ones you do you can't afford to let go because you can just magically always hit in the draft again. These group might not fall into your rankings of position importance but you continue to build around them. This has been the Bengals downfall especially when some the guys we've lost has been just do to guaranteed structure. The Bengals way of doing things is not working and it's a FO issue that I'm not sure they will ever own up to.

[TecmoBengals]

Duke's drafting is certainly a component of the laundry list of problems with the Bengals organization

[Whatever]

(2 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Listening to Goodberry and he made an excellent point. The Bengals have they're valued positions that they decide to pay at the league top value if a player is there. We have all fallen into the thinking that you can't pay a guard top money or can't pay a safety top money or can't pay 2 wr top money. But the point he made was your not going to hit all draft picks and the ones you do you can't afford to let go because you can just magically always hit in the draft again. These group might not fall into your rankings of position importance but you continue to build around them. This has been the Bengals downfall especially when some the guys we've lost has been just do to guaranteed structure. The Bengals way of doing things is not working and it's a FO issue that I'm not sure they will ever own up to.

Bates comes to mind, but isn't clear cut, as he's been wildly inconsistent his entire career.  His PFF grades are...

'18-79.9
'19-61.2
'20-90.1
'21-56.1
'22-76.8
'23-90.6
'24-69.3

He can be anything from All Pro to straight garbage depending on the year.

Zeitler is about the only other example I can remember.

[NUGDUKWE]

(1 hour ago)Whatever Wrote: Bates comes to mind, but isn't clear cut, as he's been wildly inconsistent his entire career.  His PFF grades are...

'18-79.9
'19-61.2
'20-90.1
'21-56.1
'22-76.8
'23-90.6
'24-69.3

He can be anything from All Pro to straight garbage depending on the year.

Zeitler is about the only other example I can remember.

Yeah those are the two examples he mentioned. But the idea you can't pay 2 receivers or even players that weren't drafted but are in the building. I mean we are about to let Higgins walk and what do we do? This team that we can all see has some holes that need filled are going to devote another high pick at WR to replace or take a later guy and almost assuredly have a drop off.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(1 hour ago)Whatever Wrote: Zeitler is about the only other example I can remember.

That’s a big one though. Considering it was a guard that cost us a Super Bowl win.

[Joelist]

On the bright side Mims, All and Jenkins looked pretty good last night.