Building the trenches

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:29 PM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: You think I'm negative because we went back and forth this offseason because I argued there was zero reason to think our rush defense would be better (and I think you said significantly better) than last season when looking at our additions and departures. 

Is it being negative, or is it realistic? 

Once again, you've created a strawman argument and claiming I'm saying things I'm not. I would never argue against our DT position being injured. I would argue that we weren't missing 5 DTs and using that as an excuse doesn't make sense given how poor our rush defense was with our two starters. 

Kind of hard for my argument to stick with 4 of our DT's out and Cam Sample who played DT at times also out for the year.

To act like these weren't alarming losses is absurd.

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 10:14 AM)Synric Wrote: How much money the DL is making is a bad argument. It's always more expensive to build an entire starting DL in free agency but if you look at the contracts all but Trey are making middle of the pack money. 

We have two of the top 31 highest paid DTs in the league. Maybe you consider it middle of the pack, but combined with Hendrickson and Hubbard, we spend a ton of money on those 4. Coupled with unproven and middling production behind them, it’s not getting it done.

Hopefully rankins and hill get healthy and turn this around, but the fact is we have the second highest paid defensive line in the nfl. The bengals are not close to being top at stopping the run, or bringing pressure.

There are 64 starting DTs in the nfl. 64 makes around 3,000,000. When you consider most teams carry 4-5, that makes 150ish DTs. We are not paying middle of the pack. We might have middle of the pack DTs, but they are not paid as such.