Zac Carter

[Tlawsonmariat82]

(4 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: Right it makes you wonder what the point of having players on the practice squad is if they can't even step in in the most dire situations. 

Some may say the point is for "practice" but if they aren't even good enough to cover a game when 3 starters have went down (forcing the team to sign a 34 year old off the street and play them 3 days later), then are they even good enough to practice against? They clearly aren't being developed. 

exactly and with lou's track record on not playing certain players for no good reason it really infuriates me..We could've used Dominique Davis girth in those 1st 2 weeks he couldn't have done any worst than Carter but lou refuses to do the obvious all the freakin time..

[Sled21]

(4 hours ago)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: exactly and with lou's track record on not playing certain players for no good reason it really infuriates me..We could've used Dominique Davis girth in those 1st 2 weeks he couldn't have done any worst than Carter but lou refuses to do the obvious all the freakin time..

I'm not sure it's Lou's call on who gets called up. I mean, I was surprised as well he wasn't brought up, and this is not to defend Lou, but I'm not going to bash the man for something that is probably not his decision.

[*ochocincos*]

(4 hours ago)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: exactly and with lou's track record on not playing certain players for no good reason it really infuriates me..We could've used Dominique Davis girth in those 1st 2 weeks he couldn't have done any worst than Carter but lou refuses to do the obvious all the freakin time..

The first thought that comes to my mind is Carter was a 3rd round pick whereas Davis was an UDFA.
They probably didn't want to bounce Carter off just yet because they thought he had good potential.
Just like how they kept Carman and D'Ante Smith around for so long.

If you promote Davis, you gotta make room for him.
They could have tried promoting him instead of adding Lawrence Guy, but Guy is a proven NFL vet that they needed badly as a stopgap.
Given the 3rd year is the big year for most young players, I can see Bengals not wanting to give up on him quite yet unless there was a work ethic or off-field problem.

[Whatever]

(3 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: The first thought that comes to my mind is Carter was a 3rd round pick whereas Davis was an UDFA.
They probably didn't want to bounce Carter off just yet because they thought he had good potential.
Just like how they kept Carman and D'Ante Smith around for so long.

If you promote Davis, you gotta make room for him.
They could have tried promoting him instead of adding Lawrence Guy, but Guy is a proven NFL vet that they needed badly as a stopgap.
Given the 3rd year is the big year for most young players, I can see Bengals not wanting to give up on him quite yet unless there was a work ethic or off-field problem.

DT has a long development curve.  Justin Madubuike basically did nothing for two years and became elite in year 4.  You can't just spend high draft picks there and give up after a year or two, rinse, repeat.  Really, that's the case with any trench pick.  Trey only had 6.5 sacks his first three years.  That's how we got him at such a bargain.  Nobody was sure if his 13.5 sack campaign in his contract year was a mirage.

If you're looking for prospects who have quicker impacts, you need to look at RB, WR, TE, LB, and DB.  Not trenches.

[*ochocincos*]

(1 hour ago)Whatever Wrote: DT has a long development curve.  Justin Madubuike basically did nothing for two years and became elite in year 4.  You can't just spend high draft picks there and give up after a year or two, rinse, repeat.  Really, that's the case with any trench pick.  Trey only had 6.5 sacks his first three years.  That's how we got him at such a bargain.  Nobody was sure if his 13.5 sack campaign in his contract year was a mirage.

If you're looking for prospects who have quicker impacts, you need to look at RB, WR, TE, LB, and DB.  Not trenches.

He ain't doin so hot this year.
Only half a sack in 4 games.
Maybe 2023 was the outlier, not the new norm.

But fair, maybe for DL we need to see a little longer before cutting bait.


Bengals can keep Carter on for TC next year but I wouldn't avoid a draft pick for a DT and if Carter has fallen behind the top 4-5 DTs by roster deadine next year, cut bait then.

With that said, once Bengals have Hill, Rankins, and Jackson back, they'll be at 7 DTs.
Hill, Rankins, Jackson, and Jenkins will have spots guaranteed.
You then have to pick one between Tufele, Guy, and Carter.
Who would you keep out of those 3?
Guy is the proven veteran but isn't really going to get any better.
Tufele and Carter are kinda neck and keck, it feels like.
Tufele feels a bit more well-rounded?
Tufele is in final year under contract through whereas Carter would have one more year after this.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(4 hours ago)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: exactly and with lou's track record on not playing certain players for no good reason it really infuriates me..We could've used Dominique Davis girth in those 1st 2 weeks he couldn't have done any worst than Carter but lou refuses to do the obvious all the freakin time..

Pretty sure Dominique Davis was injured and that is the reason, even our practice squad was banged up. Pretty insane when you think about it.

I have liked what I have seen of Nique in preseason though, better than Zach Carter who we start in regular season games for some damn reason.

They are different players though, Nique is a NT and Carter is a so called 3-tech.