Zac's Prevent Offense

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 01:53 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Short passing plays are indeed prevent. If you pass for 4 yards? It's a low risk high completion play with low rewards. That's prevent.

OK, if you assert we went prevent after up by 2 scores then we just disagree. 

We were too agressive

[Essex Johnson]

(11-08-2024, 01:54 AM)phil413 Wrote: So angry at the points left on the field even after the collapse. This has to feel how the liberal voters felt the power night this is such a letdown.  I can't be the only one that looked at the schedule for wins when we were up 21 to 7

Not with Jackson on other side and being in Baltimore,  Jackson is also a top tier QB , no lead is safe

[*Synric*]

Defense allowed two tight rope TDs.


The entire team gave the win away.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(11-08-2024, 01:58 AM)Synric Wrote: Defense allowed two tight rope TDs.


The entire team gave the win away.

That #1 guy couldn’t have done much more. Seems unfair to include him. You go for 260 and 3 TD’s and your team still loses there’s something severely wrong.

[lone bengal]

3rd and 2 most teams jam it down your throat but we’re a soft team no way we could gain 2 yards in 2 plays running it. Burrow is getting killed no defense and no run game. Soft soft football team

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 02:04 AM)lone bengal Wrote: 3rd and 2 most teams jam it down your throat but we’re a soft team no way we could gain 2 yards in 2 plays running it. Burrow is getting killed no defense and no run game. Soft soft football team

This was a mismanaged game. The coach should have taken the ball out of the players' hands when we were up by 2 TDs in the fourth. 

Also not the biggest fan of going for 2 at the end, I thought it was too aggressive,l Along with some of the decisions to go for it on 4th down

[lone bengal]

(11-08-2024, 02:08 AM)bfine32 Wrote: This was a mismanaged game. The coach should have taken the ball out of the players' hands when we were up by 2 TDs in the fourth. 

Also not the biggest fan of going for 2 at the end, I thought it was too aggressive,l Along with some of the decisions to go for it on 4th down

Agree , think ultimately this style of play is tough to win games in the long run. Worse defense in the league , zero run game and I don’t think they even trust there kicker anymore with long FG’s. Burrow took a beating it was tough to watch .

[casear2727]

(11-08-2024, 01:52 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So passing on 2 of 3 plays is "Prevent"? Like I said you're allowed, but you'll look silly. 

I dont think he is the one that looks silly.

[Sled21]

(11-08-2024, 02:08 AM)bfine32 Wrote:
This was a mismanaged game. The coach should have taken the ball out of the players' hands when we were up by 2 TDs in the fourth. 

Also not the biggest fan of going for 2 at the end, I thought it was too aggressive,l Along with some of the decisions to go for it on 4th down

Didn't we just have a whole week of complaining about Taylor taking the ball out of Burrow's hands a couple of weeks ago when he ran the ball?

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-08-2024, 02:01 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That #1 guy couldn’t have done much more. Seems unfair to include him. You go for 260 and 3 TD’s and your team still loses there’s something severely wrong.

Agreed. Chase was MVP. Burrow played a damn fine game, but those two decisions to bomb it and turn over on downs was just a bit TOO aggressive. 

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 12:37 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont think he is the one that looks silly.

Admittedly not a silly as the guy who started the "Prevent Offensive will cost us a game" thread. 

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 01:12 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Didn't we just have a whole week of complaining about Taylor taking the ball out of Burrow's hands a couple of weeks ago when he ran the ball?

We did and as I said: "You can't please some people any of the time."

I was a fan of Zac going conservative then and would have preferred he had gone more conservative last night. of course, I try to be consistent. 

[Nicomo Cosca]

(11-08-2024, 01:14 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Agreed. Chase was MVP. Burrow played a damn fine game, but those two decisions to bomb it and turn over on downs was just a bit TOO aggressive. 

Why were those routes even in the play call in those situations in the first place?

[Sled21]

(11-08-2024, 01:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: We did and as I said: "You can't please some people any of the time."

I was a fan of Zac going conservative then and would have preferred he had gone more conservative last night. of course, I try to be consistent. 

Yeah, I would have preferred him going for the tie and OT.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-08-2024, 01:18 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Why were those routes even in the play call in those situations in the first place?

To clear out the zones. Herbie was pointing it out all night. It was also there for the taking all night when Joe wasn't getting chased all over the place. One of them he also checked to because he saw the matchup up top. Iirc, it was the fourth down play. 

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-08-2024, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, I would have preferred him going for the tie and OT.

Not me. Not with that "defense", I was  yelling "two!" as soon as Chase caught the TD. 

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-08-2024, 01:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: We did and as I said: "You can't please some people any of the time."

I was a fan of Zac going conservative then and would have preferred he had gone more conservative last night. of course, I try to be consistent. 

When they were on their own side of the 50, I was definitely not a fan. I was gung ho on the last one though.

[casear2727]

(11-08-2024, 01:15 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Admittedly not a silly as the guy who started the "Prevent Offensive will cost us a game" thread. 

The guy who has forgotten more about ball than you will ever know?  What a silly guy indeed.

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, I would have preferred him going for the tie and OT.

I questioned more going for it on 4th down. Of course, like many in this forum I'm not a better football coach than Zac

[*bfine32*]

(11-08-2024, 01:26 PM)casear2727 Wrote: The guy who has forgotten more about ball than you will ever know?  What a silly guy indeed.

It appears you have forgotten the part on how to play with a lead.