Congratulations Trey Hendrickson

[*pally*]

Trey's 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, and 1 forced fumble performance on Sunday earned him the AFC Defensive Player of the Week. It is his second time receiving this with the last time being in week 3 2022

[Essex Johnson]

(11-06-2024, 03:47 PM)pally Wrote: Trey's 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, and 1 forced fumble performance on Sunday earned him the  AFC Defensive Player of the Week.  It is his second time receiving this with the last time being  in week 3 2022

He puts together 2 to 3 more years of quality DE,  he should be on future HOF consideration 

[*pally*]

(11-06-2024, 05:47 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: He puts together 2 to 3 more years of quality DE,  he should be on future HOF consideration 

He should be, but he plays in the same division with Myles Garrett so he gets overlooked for all those bright and shiny post-season awards that the HOF voters like

[Browns Town Bengal]

(11-06-2024, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: He should be, but he plays in the same division with Myles Garrett so he gets overlooked for all those bright and shiny post-season awards that the HOF voters like

I think he has to fight TJ Watt for that honor more than Garrett.  I know Myles won it last year but I think Watt is a far more disruptive player.  

Trey is a nice player for sure but he's really more of a one trick pony compared to Watt.  Watt intercepts balls, forces fumbles, recovers fumbles, TFL and is just pretty much a menace to opposing offenses.  Trey gets to the QB and applies pressure but I don't think he's a great run stuffer or a guy that garners as much attention as TJ.  

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(11-06-2024, 05:47 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: He puts together 2 to 3 more years of quality DE,  he should be on future HOF consideration 

Playing 68% of the snaps as his career high will always hurt him. Keeps him from All Pro talk and not even getting any DPoY votes let alone wins, which will keep him out of All-Decade teams (which are important for HoF).

Plus even 2 more seasons of 17 sacks after this year will still have him in the ~110 sack range, and you need 111 just to be tied for 40th all-time (since 1960) right now and by the time Hendrickson is eligible to even receive HoF votes that'll be even lower ranked because of Watt, Garrett, Hunter, etc.

Unless he helps the Bengals win a SB (or goes elsewhere and does those 2 years of 17 sacks for a SB winning team) OR after he retires goes into the media and has a really successful media career, I think he's going to fall into the same category as Carlos Dunlap. Really good players who aren't good enough to make it into the Hall. 

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Some Current HoF Finalists
Terrell Suggs: 139 sacks, 37 FF, 202 TFL... 7x Pro Bowl, 1x 1st Team All-Pro, DRoY, 1x DPoY, 2x SB Rings
Jared Allen: 136 sacks, 32 FF, 171 TFL.... 5x Pro Bowl, 4x 1st Team All-Pro, 2x DPoY top-5 finish
Robert Mathis: 123 sacks, 54 FF, 108 TFL.... 5x Pro Bowl, 1x 1st Team All-Pro, 1x DPoY top-5 finish, 1x SB Ring

Current Competitors Just In Division
Trey Hendrickson: 70.5 sacks, 13 FF, 63 TFL.... 3x Pro Bowl
TJ Watt: 103 sacks, 31 FF, 117 TFL.... 6x Pro Bowl, 4x 1st Team All-Pro, 4x DPoY top-5 finish, 1x DPoY
Myles Garrett: 95.5 sacks, 19 FF, 104 TFL.... 5x Pro Bowl, 3x 1st Team All-Pro, 1x DPoY top-5 finish, 1 DPoY

Hendrickson just does not line up with those guys. Heck, between Watt, Garrett, Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Cameron Jordan, Chandler Jones (apparently not retired yet?), Calais Campbell, and younger guys like Crosby, Parsons, etc, even if he has 2 more great 17-sack type seasons I don't think Hendrickson even has a top-10 claim on HoF odds for current player DE/Pass Rushers.

[*pally*]

(11-06-2024, 06:30 PM)Browns Town Bengal Wrote: I think he has to fight TJ Watt for that honor more than Garrett.  I know Myles won it last year but I think Watt is a far more disruptive player.  

Trey is a nice player for sure but he's really more of a one trick pony compared to Watt.  Watt intercepts balls, forces fumbles, recovers fumbles, TFL and is just pretty much a menace to opposing offenses.  Trey gets to the QB and applies pressure but I don't think he's a great run stuffer or a guy that garners as much attention as TJ.  

technically TJ Watt is a linebacker not a DE so Garrett is the direct comparison.
Watt is a no brainer 1st ballot HOF player...not many will compete with or be compared to him

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

Trey definitely deserved it. Was maybe the best game by a pass rushing End this season.

[*pally*]

(11-06-2024, 07:05 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Trey definitely deserved it. Was maybe the best game by a pass rushing End this season.

I'm pretty sure I saw a tweet saying it was the highest rated PFF game of the year for a DE

[Nicomo Cosca]

Couple awards this week.

This ain’t nothin’ new for @JoeyB ?

Burrow earns his second @FedEx Air & Ground Player of the Week! pic.twitter.com/KADZabu5F7

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) November 6, 2024

[Browns Town Bengal]

(11-06-2024, 06:59 PM)pally Wrote: technically TJ Watt is a linebacker not a DE so Garrett is the direct comparison.
Watt is a no brainer 1st ballot HOF player...not many will compete with or be compared to him

I don't know how they can call him a linebacker if he continually lines up in the DE spot

[*pally*]

(11-06-2024, 11:10 PM)Browns Town Bengal Wrote: I don't know how they can call him a linebacker if he continually lines up in the DE spot

Can't help you there, but according to the Steelers roster he is a linebacker.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

He beat bums like he should.

I wish the rest of the team would do the same.

Shame the rest of the d-line did not show up as depleted as their o-line was.

Good on Trey.

[Frank Booth]

(11-06-2024, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: He should be, but he plays in the same division with Myles Garrett so he gets overlooked for all those bright and shiny post-season awards that the HOF voters like

thats what hurt whit. playing in the same division as joe thomas

[Sled21]

(11-06-2024, 06:59 PM)pally Wrote: technically TJ Watt is a linebacker not a DE so Garrett is the direct comparison.
Watt is a no brainer 1st ballot HOF player...not many will compete with or be compared to him

When he gets to the hall, there should be an asterisk by his name stating he was always allowed to line up offsides. 

[SunsetBengal]

(11-07-2024, 12:31 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: thats what hurt whit. playing in the same division as joe thomas

Whitworth will be a strong candidate to make the HOF. 4X PB, 3X All-Pro (2 1st team AP) and a SB win in his career.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(11-07-2024, 01:52 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Whitworth will be a strong candidate to make the HOF. 4X PB, 3X All-Pro (2 1st team AP) and a SB win in his career.

Plus WPMOY: that counts a lot nowadays too.

He was always better than Thomas (by the numbers, from '09-'16, he had worse numbers {pressures allowed and running behind his lane} only once, maybe twice, IIRC) and Thomas never had a year like Whitworth had in '14 (no sacks, 1 hit, 7 hurries ALL YEAR, while running at 4.3 YPC behind LT).

Especially how much of a media darling he's become since retiring (he always was during his playing days too), I think he gets in. Definitely deserved.