Possible Zac Taylor replacements

[casear2727]

And there is this...

#Bengals

Zac Taylor is the best(?) play caller in the NFL… pic.twitter.com/3lROSH5qiw

— Santori Miles (@Cincy_Suave2) November 27, 2024

 

I have no idea what the criteria is, but it is something I guess?

[Nicomo Cosca]

(11-27-2024, 09:38 PM)casear2727 Wrote: And there is this...

#Bengals

Zac Taylor is the best(?) play caller in the NFL… pic.twitter.com/3lROSH5qiw

— Santori Miles (@Cincy_Suave2) November 27, 2024

 

I have no idea what the criteria is, but it is something I guess?

Hard to believe anyone is ahead of Ben Johnson right now.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(11-27-2024, 10:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Hard to believe anyone is ahead of Ben Johnson right now.

They have the 3-8, 29th overall/30th scoring /32nd 3rd down offense of the Browns as 8th.

Meanwhile the 5-7, 22nd overall/21st scoring/23rd 3rd down offense of the Colts (who are hamstrung by a Tebow-caliber sub-50% passer at QB) is 32nd.

[jj22]

(11-27-2024, 07:50 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: -Curry I don't think I want a Inside Linebacker Coach to suddenly make the jump to having to build, lead, and playcall for a whole defense.
-Hamilton is Curry but not even a full linebacker coach, but an ASSISTANT linebacker coach.
-Manuel hasn't been a DC for 6 years and he's progressively actually getting WORSE jobs. He went from DC to DB Coach to Safety Coach.
-Jack Del Rio was at least recently a DC, but he was the DC of the 32nd ranked scoring defense and then got fired mid-season while being CHECKED OUT.


If we're talking just a DC to go with Zac staying here (bleh)....

We need someone with recent DC experience because Joe Burrow's career clock is ticking and we can't waste it finding out if guys can jump to Assistant LB Coach or Inside LB Coach to DC. For the same reason that DC experience needs to be successful. So I think we need to try to steal a successful college DC.

Tosh Lupoi from Oregon
D'Anton Lynn from USC
Joe Rossi from MSU
Tim Banks from Tenn

I will say for a potential NFL candidate: Robert Saleh. Failed as a HC, but also can't deny the Jets defense got pretty damn good while he was there and got a lot worse once he left.

There will be a number of upgrades available if they don’t step outside of the league to fill the position. Many failed HC’s that ran great defenses. I hope they are willing to explore all options. They did look at college DC’s in the 2019 search. 

[Sled21]

(11-27-2024, 09:38 PM)casear2727 Wrote: And there is this...

#Bengals

Zac Taylor is the best(?) play caller in the NFL… pic.twitter.com/3lROSH5qiw

— Santori Miles (@Cincy_Suave2) November 27, 2024

 

I have no idea what the criteria is, but it is something I guess?

That's gonna leave a mark.....

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-27-2024, 10:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Hard to believe anyone is ahead of Ben Johnson right now.

 Probably has a little to do with the criteria in small print. To me Johnson does a PHENOMENAL job, but he has a very good oline too. That opens up the playbook more than a lot of people know or like to admit. Not saying that's you, BTW, but some people think because you have shiny toys at the skill positions you should score every drive. 

[*jason*]

(11-28-2024, 10:19 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote:  Probably has a little to do with the criteria in small print. To me Johnson does a PHENOMENAL job, but he has a very good oline too. That opens up the playbook more than a lot of people know or like to admit. Not saying that's you, BTW, but some people think because you have shiny toys at the skill positions you should score every drive. 

Agreed but... Johnson's been getting bit done with injuries to that line, personnel changes, and (for the most part... QB, WR 1 & 2) his shiny toys aren't as good as ours.

[*bfine32*]

Maybe we could poach that Chicago Coach. He seems pretty sharp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-coach-matt-eberflus-on-disastrous-final-sequence-in-loss-to-lions-i-like-what-we-did-there-231618542.html

[3wt]

(11-21-2024, 12:28 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, I just did not know much about Smith when he was drafted so I'm not going to say I wanted him. Humphrey had me screaming at the tv.

Smith had a long injury history.   But he had a good year with Tennessee and after the third round was definitely worth the gamble.   He's a stud.  The Chiefs, ironically, have problems with their edges, but their interior keeps them in the game.

Madden always said O-Line is how you build your team.   I realized we have significant defensive needs.  But until we solidify our IOL we will struggle to run the football and protect our franchise.  That totally takes precedence unless the position quality is simply not there.

I hear the IOL free agent class is good.  Pair that with Booker if possible and then go defense and BPA the rest of the way.

[3wt]

(11-21-2024, 12:12 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I am absolutely not blaming the refs for the loss against SD, but how many calls in a row did the refs clearly blow... I know it was three or four. Calling Burrow for grounding and looking the other way when Herbert was clearly not called for obvious grounding. And they were grabbing Burrow's facemask on about every other time they got to him. No one will convince me they are not now betting on games through surrogates. Too many obviously missed calls all across the league.

Couple that with the fact that Burrow is clearly being totally abused back there after every play!   I'm talking two full steps then hammer; and him being totally sandwiched by two defenders.   Watching the games yesterday nailed it for me.  The announcers were screaming if there was a single step and the QB got powder puffed.

It happened in the second Ravens game too.   Blatant stuff.  And no one advocates for the guy.

Also, did you see the Green Bay lineman wup up on that Miami (couldn't tell if it was a linebacker or DL) last night.  Got called, but made his point.  The last O lineman do do that for us was Whit.   I think we should have Whit scout for us...

[Nepa]

(11-29-2024, 01:53 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Maybe we could poach that Chicago Coach. He seems pretty sharp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-coach-matt-eberflus-on-disastrous-final-sequence-in-loss-to-lions-i-like-what-we-did-there-231618542.html

Yes, no matter how bad things go in terms of decisions by Bengals coaches, we can always look at the ending of yesterday's Chicago game and smile -- and the coach defending what they did.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(11-28-2024, 11:31 PM)jason Wrote: Agreed but... Johnson's been getting bit done with injuries to that line, personnel changes, and (for the most part... QB, WR 1 & 2) his shiny toys aren't as good as ours.

I think that's why he's that high....he doesn't have the QB and WRs Cincinnati has. Absolutely agree. I'm saying that the criteria of team restraints (Cincinnati front office) and the oline are why Zac is ahead of him. IDK if I'm reading that fine print right, but that's my take on its meaning.

[puddycat]

(11-29-2024, 01:53 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Maybe we could poach that Chicago Coach. He seems pretty sharp.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-coach-matt-eberflus-on-disastrous-final-sequence-in-loss-to-lions-i-like-what-we-did-there-231618542.html

After the ending of the Bears on Thursday and then the Raiders today... I feel like I'm nitpicking.

[swilson3828]

My God........hire Stevie Wonder...he can see clearer what's going on than Zac can.

[BengalsBong]

With as much as Burrow has to escape the pocket and go off script since the play call broke down, I call BS on Zac being top play caller.

He has many more responsibilities as a head coach than just calling plays as well.

[Fan_in_Kettering]

Scoring 38 points and losing is a major embarrassment.

[WeezyBengal]

The ZT hate is interesting to me.

I admit, I've waivered a bit on him throughout the year, but find myself coming back to support him.

It's obvious and clear what the issues with this team are. Defense, talent on the defensive side of the ball, and talent on the offensive line. As far as the offense goes, I'm satisfied with it...especially with the shortcomings on the offensive line. They put up damn near 30 points a game. 

Zach being the offensive head coach that he is, why is the barrel being aimed at ZT over guys like Lou, Pollack, and other positional coaches? It just doesnt make sense to me.

I think Zach is doing his job and it doing it as well as he can given the parameters. It's some of the other guys on his staff (and the front office, but that's a different convo) that are 1000% at fault for this mess.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-02-2024, 10:44 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The ZT hate is interesting to me.

I admit, I've waivered a bit on him throughout the year, but find myself coming back to support him.

It's obvious and clear what the issues with this team are. Defense, talent on the defensive side of the ball, and talent on the offensive line. As far as the offense goes, I'm satisfied with it...especially with the shortcomings on the offensive line. They put up damn near 30 points a game. 

Zach being the offensive head coach that he is, why is the barrel being aimed at ZT over guys like Lou, Pollack, and other positional coaches? It just doesnt make sense to me.

I think Zach is doing his job and it doing it as well as he can given the parameters. It's some of the other guys on his staff (and the front office, but that's a different convo) that are 1000% at fault for this mess.

That's where I'm at as well. He needs to evaluate and remove some coaches in my opinion, that's the one criticism I think is valid. 

[SunsetBengal]

Whomever is the eventual replacement for Anarumo at DC needs to be a coach that places a high emphasis on the fundamentals of tackling. Yesterday's game was a prime example of what I'm talking about. All day long we saw it requiring multiple players to take down Steeler ball carriers, receivers getting plenty of yards after first contact. Why? Because they're all making these half hearted attempts to tackle the torso, or just add additional shots with a shoulder.

Everyone knows that the way to bring an opponent to the ground is by tackling and wrapping the legs! After the Bengals/Steelers debacle I was watching the Ravens/Eagles game. The one common thing about both of their defenses? They tackle the legs.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-02-2024, 10:49 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Whomever is the eventual replacement for Anarumo at DC needs to be a coach that places a high emphasis on the fundamentals of tackling. Yesterday's game was a prime example of what I'm talking about. All day long we saw it requiring multiple players to take down Steeler ball carriers, receivers getting plenty of yards after first contact. Why? Because they're all making these half hearted attempts to tackle the torso, or just add additional shots with a shoulder.

Everyone knows that the way to bring an opponent to the ground is by tackling and wrapping the legs! After the Bengals/Steelers debacle I was watching the Ravens/Eagles game. The one common thing about both of their defenses? They tackle the legs.

Yep, that and quit leaving the middle of the field wide open!