Why draft Tycen Anderson?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(12-04-2024, 07:31 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On another note, perhaps the Bengals should be eyeing Toledo's DBs coach as a possible DBs coaching candidate? UT has been putting out some talent, Quinyon Mitchell just this year, for example. 

Quinyon Mitchell has been a stud rookie alright. He pretty much shut down Ja'Marr when we played them Eagles. Mitchell
isn't playing like a rookie that is for sure. Could win Rookie DPOY. Nice thought on adding Toledo's DB coach Sunset. I like it.

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(12-04-2024, 07:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Quinyon Mitchell has been a stud rookie alright. He pretty much shut down Ja'Marr when we played them Eagles. Mitchell
isn't playing like a rookie that is for sure. Could win Rookie DPOY. Nice thought on adding Toledo's DB coach Sunset. I like it.

With his size and speed if they're not gonna let Tycen play safety why not try him at CB?

[pulses]

(12-04-2024, 07:31 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On another note, perhaps the Bengals should be eyeing Toledo's DBs coach as a possible DBs coaching candidate? UT has been putting out some talent, Quinyon Mitchell just this year, for example. 

The DB coach ( Corey Parker) who coached up Mitchell left Toledo and this year was the DB coach for Illinois. So that might be a guy who we should take a look at. This is only his 3rd year coaching in college. All of his other experience came from coaching at the high school. level He has almost 20 years experience in total.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-04-2024, 07:48 PM)pulses Wrote: The DB coach ( Corey Parker) who coached up Mitchell left Toledo and this year was the DB coach for Illinois. So that might be a guy who we should take a look at. This is only his 3rd year coaching in college. All of his other experience came from coaching at the high school. level He has almost 20 years experience in total.

Some people will read that as mostly HS coaching, however if he coached at a large HS that was very competitive, he would certainly recognize talent when he sees it and know how to develop it.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(12-04-2024, 03:51 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: My guess is: They like Stone and think he's playing ok.

Didn’t you hear that Stone “wants to tackle”

[coachmcneil71]

(12-04-2024, 07:17 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Did you ever watch his highlight reel from his days at U Toledo? He's so much more than just a STs ace.

He absolutely should get a chance to get on the field. He's better than at least two of the current starters at DB; Stone and Newton. 

[SunsetBengal]

(12-04-2024, 08:25 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: He absolutely should get a chance to get on the field. He's better than at least two of the current starters at DB; Stone and Newton. 

To be fair, I'm not sure that Anderson is adept at CB.

[coachmcneil71]

(12-04-2024, 08:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: To be fair, I'm not sure that Anderson is adept at CB.

I agree to an extent, but I would argue that it's pretty hard to get much worse than the way Newton played last week or Stone has done all season. Obviously you're right, but hell, if he can just come up and shut down the screens and hitches it would be better than what we saw last week. 

[SunsetBengal]

(12-04-2024, 09:51 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I agree to an extent, but I would argue that it's pretty hard to get much worse than the way Newton played last week or Stone has done all season. Obviously you're right, but hell, if he can just come up and shut down the screens and hitches it would be better than what we saw last week. 

I'm not sure that Tycen is that guy. He's more of a deep Safety. They drafted Jordan Battle to be that in the box guy, let him play.

[pulses]

(12-04-2024, 07:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Some people will read that as mostly HS coaching, however if he coached at a large HS that was very competitive, he would certainly recognize talent when he sees it and know how to develop it.

He's pretty much done it all.

2024

Illinois
 
Defensive Backs
2022-23

Toledo
Cornerbacks

2009-21
River Rouge High School (Mich.)

Head Coach
2008

Inkster High School (Mich.)
Co-Defensive Coordinator

2007
Ann Arbor Huron High School (Mich.)
Defensive Backs/Wide Receivers

2006
University of Detroit Jesuit High School (Mich.)
Defensive Backs

[casear2727]

Not sure how so many of you have forgotten that Tycen was the middle defender on Punt Return. The Panthers called a fake punt and threw it to the middle field right where Tycen had been, but inexplicably, put his head down and ran full speed toward the sideline to help block a gunner. He has yet to get that spot back. If they cant trust him vs a punter they likely cannot trust him vs a real QB.

That said, if Mims can tackle I dont care if they put him at safety, it's been that bad.

[*bfine32*]

(12-04-2024, 10:52 AM)Synric Wrote: Special Teams. He's probabaly a top 10 special teams player in the NFL.

(12-04-2024, 12:19 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Dude is one of the best gunners in the league. That’s worth a day 3 pick.

(12-04-2024, 02:42 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The special teams answer is a stupid one, 

[BengalsBong]

(12-04-2024, 10:52 AM)Synric Wrote: Special Teams. He's probabaly a top 10 special teams player in the NFL.

Think we need to find a starting free safety more than a special team's guy. So many holes to fill next year if we do not develop a few young guys this year next year will be a wash too.

[wanga]

ST

[reuben.ahmed]

(12-04-2024, 07:17 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Did you ever watch his highlight reel from his days at U Toledo? He's so much more than just a STs ace.

go rockets

[coachmcneil71]

(12-04-2024, 10:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm not sure that Tycen is that guy. He's more of a deep Safety. They drafted Jordan Battle to be that in the box guy, let him play.

In total agreement! Battle should be starting moving forward. At the very least Anderson should get more snaps imho. Mainly because unfortunately, Stone blows and Bell has diminished. 

Of curse I'm not suggesting that Anderson is the way moving forward. We all know that it can't get much worse on the back end. They're terrible!

I said it when it happened and many have mentioned it since, but losing Jessie Bates to the ATL was a serious loss. Between him and Awuzie, they could take away areas of the field and dictate to the offenses a little. 
The cats we have now, including the injured ones, are soft whipping boys.  Battle is probably the only dog in that secondary other than Hilton, and we don't even know this for sure yet. 

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-05-2024, 12:48 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: In total agreement! Battle should be starting moving forward. At the very least Anderson should get more snaps imho. Mainly because unfortunately, Stone blows and Bell has diminished. 

Of curse I'm not suggesting that Anderson is the way moving forward. We all know that it can't get much worse on the back end. They're terrible!

I said it when it happened and many have mentioned it since, but losing Jessie Bates to the ATL was a serious loss. Between him and Awuzie, they could take away areas of the field and dictate to the offenses a little. 
The cats we have now, including the injured ones, are soft whipping boys.  Battle is probably the only dog in that secondary other than Hilton, and we don't even know this for sure yet. 

From what I've seen of Battle, he certainly isn't scared of contact. At all. 

As to Bates, didn't Lou say it would be a dark day if Bates or Bell left? Hell, they BOTH did.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-05-2024, 02:43 PM)Wyche Wrote: From what I've seen of Battle, he certainly isn't scared of contact. At all. 

As to Bates, didn't Lou say it would be a dark day if Bates or Bell left? Hell, they BOTH did.

He did say that. And they by all means should be playing Jordan Battle and seeing how Tycen Anderson handles himself in deep coverage.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-05-2024, 03:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He did say that. And they by all means should be playing Jordan Battle and seeing how Tycen Anderson handles himself in deep coverage.

Agreed..... I'm still just harping on that fatal flaw brother, the front office.