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Triple Crown & Sack updates
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With 1 game left, Joe Burrow has an excellent chance tonwin the QB Triple Crown: Completions, Yards, & TDs. Ja'Marr Chase is in a similar position to at WR: catxhes, yards, TDs. Additionally, with 1 more TD Chase would tie Carl Pickens for the Bengal record for a season and become the 11th member of the 100/1 club at WR, averaging 100 yards per game and 1 TD per game for a season.

Trey Hendrickson is also trying to lead the league in sacks. He would be the first Bengal to do do since sacks became an official stat, though Coy Bacon's 21.5 unofficially led the NFL in 1976.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/sacks_year_by_year.htm

Here is where they stand:

1. Burrow. Leads the NFL in Completions (423), Yards (4,641) and TD passes (42). Here are his closest challengers:

Comp (423): Mahommes (392), G. Smith (387), Matfield (386), Goff (363).

Mahommes is not playing. If Joe completes 25, Smith would need 70 to catch him.

Yards (4,641): Goff (4,398), Mayfield (4,279), Darmold (4,153).

If Joe puts up 250, Goff would need 493 to catch him, Mayfield over 600.

TDs (42): Jackson (39), Mayfield (39), Goff (36), Darnold (35).

Three from Joe would likely put this out of reach. But Mayfield did just toss 5 last week, I think.
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2. Chase leads the league with 117 receptions, 1,612 yards, and 16 TDs. Here are the chasers:

Catches (117): St. Brown (109), Bowers (108), McBride (104), Nabers (104), Lamb (101), Jefferson (100).

Lamb is shut down and Jefferson too far back. McBride and Naners could hit 117 with big games, and St. Brown & Bowers could top 120. But if Chase gets to, say 125, thst is gonna be tough to catch.

Yards (1,612): Jefferson (1,479), Lamb (1,194).

Everyone is 400 yards behind save for Jefferson at 133. If Chase puts up 100, he'd need 233. Not impossible.

TDs (16): St. Brown (12), McLaurin (12), Evans (11), Higgins (10), Jefferson (10), Andrews (10), B. Thomas (10).

This feels out of reach, but I guess 4 is not impossible. Dang that drop last week, I wanted the Bengals record in 16 and the 100/1 thing. Needs 1 to get each.
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3. Hendrickson. Tied for the league lead in sacks with Garrett with 14 each.

Sacks (14): Garrett (14), D. Hunter, Hou (12), TJ Watt, Pitt (11.5), Va  Noy, Bal (11.5), Van Ginkel, Min (11.5), Bonitto, Den (11.5),  Greenard, Min (11), W. Anderson, Hou (11), Fowler, Wash (10.5), McDonald, NYJ (10).
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Thanks for the wonderful summary and analysis.
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Sometimes I wish Bengals played in a different division so they weren't having to deal with the sack artists on the Browns, Steelers, and Ravens.
Garrett and Watt have been headaches for a handful of years, and BAL seems to always have either a guy or two with 9+ sacks or collectively puts up a lot of sacks as a unit.
I'm sure though those teams have felt the same about Hendrickson and before him, Atkins and Dunlap.

It's kinda sad to see these few players doing so elite this season and Bengals not even going to get to double-digit wins, possibly (likely?) not even making playoffs.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.

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Is completions part of the QB triple crown?

I always figured it was yards, TDs, QB Rating.

If you wanted completions instead of QB Rating I feel like completion % would be much more likely than just raw completions. Joe Burrow led the NFL in Completion % in 2021, but he was tied for 11th in completions. Meanwhile that year Josh Allen was 6th in completions but 25th in completion %.
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Good stuff, Isaac. Thanks for posting.
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Feeling good about my bet for Burrow to win MVP!

Also bet us to win the Super Bowl and Chase to win OPOY, but I can't find the Chase bet slip.

Put $250 on Burrow, so I'll win a few grand.
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(12-31-2024, 05:32 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Is completions part of the QB triple crown?

I always figured it was yards, TDs, QB Rating.

If you wanted completions instead of QB Rating I feel like completion % would be much more likely than just raw completions. Joe Burrow led the NFL in Completion % in 2021, but he was tied for 11th in completions. Meanwhile that year Josh Allen was 6th in completions but 25th in completion %.

No, it isn't. QB Rating is a new stat (relatively). That is why it is not included. 

BTW, Completion% is probably a better stat, but teams that throw less should be more efficient, that cuts both ways. But, since Burrow is not leading the league in Comp%, it is kind of weird you seemingly are trying to argue him out of it. 

The Triple Crown, even in baseball, is just the counting stats: hits, HR, RBI. Originally, the hits leader won the batting title. Eventually, they changed to AVG. 

QBR, QB Rating, yds per attempt, yds per completion, yards per reception, those are all advanced stats. 

All of them are functions of frequency. Yards & TDs as well. And no one is saying a TC winner is necessarily the best QB, or most efficient. Those are different stats and a different conversation. 

Even so, I'd argue it is harder to something when everyone knows it is coming. The factvthat Burrow is close on Comp% to guys on teams with running threats is amazing. 
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(12-31-2024, 07:23 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Feeling good about my bet for Burrow to win MVP!

Also bet us to win the Super Bowl and Chase to win OPOY, but I can't find the Chase bet slip.

Put $250 on Burrow, so I'll win a few grand.

No you won't. I'll be shocked if he gets higher than 4th: Allen, Jackson, and Barkley in some order.
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(12-31-2024, 07:39 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: No you won't. I'll be shocked if he gets higher than 4th: Allen, Jackson, and Barkley in some order.

If we squeeze into the playoffs, I think his odds jump a lot, especially if people look at it subjectively.
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(12-31-2024, 05:25 PM)pally Wrote: Trey #1 vote getter at DE for the Pro Bowl


Let's just hope that he gets that same respect for All-Pro consideration.
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(12-31-2024, 07:38 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: No, it isn't. QB Rating is a new stat (relatively). That is why it is not included. 

BTW, Completion% is probably a better stat, but teams that throw less should be more efficient, that cuts both ways. But, since Burrow is not leading the league in Comp%, it is kind of weird you seemingly are trying to argue him out of it. 

The Triple Crown, even in baseball, is just the counting stats: hits, HR, RBI. Originally, the hits leader won the batting title. Eventually, they changed to AVG. 

QBR, QB Rating, yds per attempt, yds per completion, yards per reception, those are all advanced stats. 

All of them are functions of frequency. Yards & TDs as well. And no one is saying a TC winner is necessarily the best QB, or most efficient. Those are different stats and a different conversation. 

Even so, I'd argue it is harder to something when everyone knows it is coming. The factvthat Burrow is close on Comp% to guys on teams with running threats is amazing. 

QB Rating has existed since 1973, just 3 years less than the Bengals existing in the NFL. It's been over half a century. QB Rating is older than over 2/3rds of the US population.

Because I am not warping my views and beliefs of not making sense just to align it with what's potentially most beneficial as a Bengals fan, it's weird? I find that thought process weird.

Something doesn't make sense. Also I am a Bengals fan. Those are two separate things. Thinking that because I am a Bengals fan that something must make sense is really strange.

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In baseball you don't really get to choose to have a ton more plate appearances. You have a PA and then you have to wait until the other 8 guy in the lineup get a PA and then you can have another. You play a full season and you're going to have ~700-750 PA. Your availability is the major determining factor in opportunities, so counting isn't terribly illogical there though as you pointed out they switched to AVG in batting title because it's simply better.

In football you can play a whole season and have either >700 pass attempts or <500 attempts depending on your OC, even if it's the same player.
Matthew Stafford 2012 (16 games): 435 completions on 727 attempts (59.8%)
Matthew Stafford in 2021 (17 games): 404 completions on 601 attempts (67.2%)

Same player, different OCs. Former gets 1/3rd of a triple crown because he was an inefficient mass thrower and the latter doesn't despite being vastly superior because of the playcalling? That just doesn't make sense.
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(12-31-2024, 05:25 PM)pally Wrote: Trey #1 vote getter at DE for the Pro Bowl


How the **** does Daniels beat out Burrow?
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(01-01-2025, 02:17 AM)sandwedge Wrote: How the **** does Daniels beat out Burrow?

More people voted for him
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(12-31-2024, 07:39 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: No you won't. I'll be shocked if he gets higher than 4th: Allen, Jackson, and Barkley in some order.

So when Dickerson set the record for most yards in a season, was that in a 14 or 16 game season?
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(01-01-2025, 02:27 AM)bfine32 Wrote: More people voted for him

You sure it was a kid that sat all day pushing the button for Daniels?
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(01-01-2025, 02:30 AM)sandwedge Wrote: So when Dickerson set the record for most yards in a season, was that in a 14 or 16 game season?

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Joe said they were going to make sure that Ja”Marr gets the triple crown
 
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