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(01-05-2025, 12:01 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I have always been a Lou fan, and have been somewhat torn this year on if I wanted him to move on, or if he is being hamstrung by lack of talent. I've pretty much landed with wanting Lou to stay, but to clean out the DB coaching room and D-line coaching rooms and get better position coaches. The main problems this defense has is not concept (Coordinator) it is with fundamentals like tackling and being on a WR when the ball arrives.(Position coaches)
People complain about Lou but who does he have on defense besides Hendrickson? He lost Reader and we replaced him with a guy that isnt good against the run. A guy that has missed a bunch of the season and only had 1 sack. Behind him we have counted on 2 rookies. One that missed most of training camp because of an injury and started the year on the IR. The other rookie was also injured and started the year with a broken thumb and club on his hand. We do have BJ Hill who is an above average DT but he is nowhere near elite.
You have Sam Hubbard who has fallen off a cliff. Behind him you have a 1st round pick that was never great rushing the passer in college but somehow people are surprised when he ends up with zero sacks for the year. Ossai finally had a productive year but even then his play has been mediocre which seems like an improvement when compared to Hubbard and Murphy but still not all that great.
In the secondary we are counting on a bunch of young guys that just arent there yet. They have made a bunch of mistakes in pass coverage. We have dealt with injuries to Dax Hill, DJ Turner. Hilton has been good against the run and on blitzes but is a liability in pass coverage. We have a few guys that have made some plays in the secondary but overall they are not great.
I dont have a problem getting rid of Lou and bringing in a different coaching staff for the defense but no matter who you bring in, the talent on the defense needs to be upgraded. The defensive struggles are not entirely Lou's fault.
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I tip my hat to this Bengals team who could have easily ended up with a double-digit loss season after being 4-8.
They really have gotten things going after 3 months of up and down, doing very improbable 5-0 to finish out the season.
Unfortunately, this waiting game is what happens when you perform so poorly the first half of the year.
If this team had been playing like this the whole year, they would have very likely won the division and sitting at the 3 seed if not higher.
It will also be funny to potentially see the Steelers fall to the 6 seed and have to play @BAL next weekend 
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs
Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.
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There’s going to be changes. Will Lou survive? I’d say he’s close to saving his job.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.
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Lou survives. Now his assistant’s….
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(01-05-2025, 12:43 PM)jj22 Wrote: You guys are too much. This year was SB or bust. Only kudos that should come is if they somehow happen to make the playoffs.
If they don’t let’s hope the FO remembers the failure this season was. And not wax poetic about a streak to end the season outside of the playoffs.
I’m only giving praise to individual players this offseason. The ones that showed up and came to play this season.
Every year is Super Bowl or bust
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(01-05-2025, 12:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I tip my hat to this Bengals team who could have easily ended up with a double-digit loss season after being 4-8.
They really have gotten things going after 3 months of up and down, doing very improbable 5-0 to finish out the season.
Unfortunately, this waiting game is what happens when you perform so poorly the first half of the year.
If this team had been playing like this the whole year, they would have very likely won the division and sitting at the 3 seed if not higher.
It will also be funny to potentially see the Steelers fall to the 6 seed and have to play @BAL next weekend
I think that's the first game where I saw Mike Tomlin looking like he wanted to throw up on the sideline.
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(01-05-2025, 01:11 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I think that's the first game where I saw Mike Tomlin looking like he wanted to throw up on the sideline.
I noticed that also...even @ the beginning of the game he looked lost..I don't think he likes the cold weather
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(01-05-2025, 12:10 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: The Patriots scored just 16 points but unfortunately the offense could only score 10. That hurts
True but the games that sting more is the very very questionable interference call against Kansas City, the absolute no call at Baltimore when your receiver not only gets taken down but your quarterback gets hit in the face mask and then of course the home game against Baltimore when Zak Taylor runs the ball three times from the 35 yard line and expects his kicker to win it with a 52-yarder. Those are the games that stick out to me.
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(01-05-2025, 12:01 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I have always been a Lou fan, and have been somewhat torn this year on if I wanted him to move on, or if he is being hamstrung by lack of talent. I've pretty much landed with wanting Lou to stay, but to clean out the DB coaching room and D-line coaching rooms and get better position coaches. The main problems this defense has is not concept (Coordinator) it is with fundamentals like tackling and being on a WR when the ball arrives.(Position coaches)
I agree with everything, except Lou's concept. To many times with us needing the D to make a stop, we went into that soft shell. Only when they started to be more aggressive did we start to see a difference in this D. IMO
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(01-05-2025, 12:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I tip my hat to this Bengals team who could have easily ended up with a double-digit loss season after being 4-8.
They really have gotten things going after 3 months of up and down, doing very improbable 5-0 to finish out the season.
Unfortunately, this waiting game is what happens when you perform so poorly the first half of the year.
If this team had been playing like this the whole year, they would have very likely won the division and sitting at the 3 seed if not higher.
It will also be funny to potentially see the Steelers fall to the 6 seed and have to play @BAL next weekend
I don't... this lil win streak consisted of them beating some very bad teams..even worse than us...a Denver team that is ok..and a Pittsburgh team that has fallen apart...it will be an interesting off season with Mike turning 89....impending lease negotiations..and players like Joe Burrow inputing........
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(01-05-2025, 01:21 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I don't... this lil win streak consisted of them beating some very bad teams..even worse than us...a Denver team that is ok..and a Pittsburgh team that has fallen apart...it will be an interesting off season with Mike turning 89....impending lease negotiations..and players like Joe Burrow inputing........
How soon you forget we were one of those bad teams. So in your eyes we should have just folded up and lost the last 5.
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(01-05-2025, 01:18 PM)higgy100 Wrote: True but the games that sting more is the very very questionable interference call against Kansas City, the absolute no call at Baltimore when your receiver not only gets taken down but your quarterback gets hit in the face mask and then of course the home game against Baltimore when Zak Taylor runs the ball three times from the 35 yard line and expects his kicker to win it with a 52-yarder. Those are the games that stick out to me.
I don't disagree with Zac expecting your recently extended kicker to make kicks to win you games. The rest of your points I do agree with tho.
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(01-05-2025, 01:11 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I think that's the first game where I saw Mike Tomlin looking like he wanted to throw up on the sideline.
Yup, I think the whole world saw that look! He knew they were in trouble.
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Russell Wilson and Geroge Pickens looked awful
Great day for them to have a really bad game!!
We did a RARE great job winning in the trenches a lot too.
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I'm a fan so naturally glad to see they made it to 9-8 for the winning record. The start of the season still remains unacceptable and a disappointment.
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Frank Pollack will return
It's because you are of such profound wisdom, Frank Booth. - SunsetBengal
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(01-05-2025, 01:40 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Frank Pollack will return
We have been wishing his release for a few seasons, so I don't see them doing it now.
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(01-05-2025, 01:43 PM)sandwedge Wrote: We have been wishing his release for a few seasons, so I don't see them doing it now.
9-8 and beating up on bad qb's at the end saved jobs lol
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(01-05-2025, 01:33 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Was a great game to watch with our Defense actually tackling well for the most part.
We will see if this enough after such a terrible start to the season which we cannot have anymore.
If we make the Playoffs somehow, we will need this Defense to be shutdown in order to keep Lou and we will need to win the SB because
of him. Highly doubt this is the case but would love it if it happened. BTW, shout out to Cody Ford who played alright and showed great heart
against Twatt and the stealers pass rushers. Either way we need a new OL coach and a new IOL for the most part.
Khalil Herbert is a good tough running back that we need to bring back.
Joe, Ja'Marr and Trey had a great season. Great players to start with even if Trey won't last forever I think he earned an extension.
For sure
Two straight 9-8 seasons, two straight 1-3 starts. Too bad we have to come out every season so damn flat.
Here's to hoping the stars align and the ball bounces our way today. 
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(01-05-2025, 11:10 AM)Tomkat Wrote: No way Miami loses.
Jets are TERRIBLE
You never know about the Jets, Aaron Rodgers has to put up good numbers if he wants to play some where next year. It will be cold in NY, so that helps the Jets, also.
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