The Truth We All Ignore: Mike Brown

[samhain]

With the season over, things are about to get interesting. The gaslighting and make-believe of 8 percent playoff chances has evaporated. No more shitty teams to beat up on.

Now, for two years straight, you're asking why a team with Super Bowl expectations is Cancun on 3.

The glaze of the Super Bowl appearance is wearing off. The once-in-a-franchise-lifetime quarterback appears to be agitated.

We've all bought into the narrative of them trying to retain Tee and Ja'marr. Why? Because Joe wants it? What does the family think?

At the end of the day, the old man will have the final say. We assume that he won't alienate another all-time-franchise great in Chase by offering another lame-ass extension. Everyone assumes that things are different. We assume he will somehow bow to Joe and do his bidding. I think that this belief is misinformed.

Even if he did do as Joe suggests, is that even appropriate? Maybe we need a defense more than we need to keep the band together.

Lots of moving parts and volatility here. The upside is that we have 2 top 10 players in the league on the roster. Probably the best qb in the league. Best receiver hands down. Those things should be advantages. Somehow, the team has manages to makes them potential obstacles.

They have to stick the landing in 25. If they don't, it will never happen for us. If we don't win it with Burrow, we never will. Screwing this era of Bengals football up is going to be fatal to the organization's tenure in Cincinnati.

It's time for the family to show that's it's serious. This offseason will tell us absolutely everything we need to know about the future of the Bengals in Cincinnati.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(01-05-2025, 09:04 PM)samhain Wrote: They have to stick the landing in 25. If they don't, it will never happen for us. If we don't win it with Burrow, we never will. Screwing this era of Bengals football up is going to be fatal to the organization's tenure in Cincinnati.

This point really can not be overstated. We’re never going to have a better chance than we do right now with Burrow in his prime. People talk about Rodgers and Brees only winning one SB a piece, and what a failure that was. Burrow becoming Marino 2.0 would be the biggest slight on this franchise in its entire history. And that’s really saying something.

[Browns Town Bengal]

(01-05-2025, 09:12 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: This point really can not be overstated. We’re never going to have a better chance than we do right now with Burrow in his prime. People talk about Rodgers and Brees only winning one SB a piece, and what a failure that was. Burrow becoming Marino 2.0 would be the biggest slight on this franchise in its entire history. And that’s really saying something.

Becoming Marino 2.0 is a very real possibility.  

[Gohards]

I dont think anybody ignores the fact that mike brown is the problem.

I think as fans, at least recently, we are just hoping that having an elite quarterback can overcome the fact we have the worst owner in football.

We are learning though, that really nothing can overcome bad ownership.

I think even if we were to squeak out a super bowl, we would never become a dynasty because of mike brown.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(01-05-2025, 09:15 PM)Browns Town Bengal Wrote: Becoming Marino 2.0 is a very real possibility.  

He can still be Elway. Just need a different HC. No QB/HC combo has ever won a SB together if they didn’t win one within 5 years. I don’t like those odds.

[WildCat]

(01-05-2025, 09:04 PM)samhain Wrote: With the season over, things are about to get interesting.  The gaslighting and make-believe of 8 percent playoff chances has evaporated.  No more shitty teams to beat up on.  

Now, for two years straight, you're asking why a team with Super Bowl expectations is Cancun on 3.

The glaze of the Super Bowl appearance is wearing off.  The once-in-a-franchise-lifetime quarterback appears to be agitated.  

We've all bought into the narrative of them trying to retain Tee and Ja'marr.  Why?  Because Joe wants it?  What does the family think?

At the end of the day, the old man will have the final say.  We assume that he won't alienate another all-time-franchise great in Chase by offering another lame-ass extension.  Everyone assumes that things are different.  We assume he will somehow bow to Joe and do his bidding.  I think that this belief is misinformed.  

Even if he did do as Joe suggests, is that even appropriate?  Maybe we need a defense more than we need to keep the band together.  

Lots of moving parts and volatility here.  The upside is that we have 2 top 10 players in the league on the roster.  Probably the best qb in the league.  Best receiver hands down.  Those things should be advantages.   Somehow, the team has manages to makes them potential obstacles.  

They have to stick the landing in 25.  If they don't, it will never happen for us.  If we don't win it with Burrow, we never will.  Screwing this era of Bengals football up is going to be fatal to the organization's tenure in Cincinnati.  

It's time for the family to show that's it's serious.  This offseason will tell us absolutely everything we need to know about the future of the Bengals in Cincinnati.

we have a better chance of the reds getting another pennant with francona than we do of a lombardi with burrow. and i hate saying that but i'm sure it's the truth.

[sandwedge]

(01-05-2025, 09:04 PM)samhain Wrote: With the season over, things are about to get interesting.  The gaslighting and make-believe of 8 percent playoff chances has evaporated.  No more shitty teams to beat up on.  

Now, for two years straight, you're asking why a team with Super Bowl expectations is Cancun on 3.

The glaze of the Super Bowl appearance is wearing off.  The once-in-a-franchise-lifetime quarterback appears to be agitated.  

We've all bought into the narrative of them trying to retain Tee and Ja'marr.  Why?  Because Joe wants it?  What does the family think?

At the end of the day, the old man will have the final say.  We assume that he won't alienate another all-time-franchise great in Chase by offering another lame-ass extension.  Everyone assumes that things are different.  We assume he will somehow bow to Joe and do his bidding.  I think that this belief is misinformed.  

Even if he did do as Joe suggests, is that even appropriate?  Maybe we need a defense more than we need to keep the band together.  

Lots of moving parts and volatility here.  The upside is that we have 2 top 10 players in the league on the roster.  Probably the best qb in the league.  Best receiver hands down.  Those things should be advantages.   Somehow, the team has manages to makes them potential obstacles.  

They have to stick the landing in 25.  If they don't, it will never happen for us.  If we don't win it with Burrow, we never will.  Screwing this era of Bengals football up is going to be fatal to the organization's tenure in Cincinnati.  

It's time for the family to show that's it's serious.  This offseason will tell us absolutely everything we need to know about the future of the Bengals in Cincinnati.

And just how do you propose we ask Mike Brown to change? Write him a letter, I understand he actually does read them

[Nicomo Cosca]

(01-05-2025, 09:23 PM)WildCat Wrote: we have a better chance of the reds getting another pennant with francona than we do of a lombardi with *Taylor. and i hate saying that but i'm sure it's the truth.

FTFY

Give me a Ben Johnson, or Joe Brady, or even Mike Vrabel, and those odds probably go way up.

[*Awful Llama*]

It's funny how Mike's visibility is directly linked to the team's performance. 2021-2022: Mike who? 2023: Ah yeah, that guy. 2024: There he is! Stone him!!!

[WildCat]

(01-05-2025, 09:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: FTFY

Give me a Ben Johnson, or Joe Brady, or even Mike Vrabel, and those odds go way up.

vrabel's about to take the patriots HC position. he would've been the best HC for cincy as defense would improve immediately. that's how KC has done what they've done.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

The rot starts at the top. Everyone is aware, I think.

But while he is still breathing, there is nothing to be done.

There has been some progress on facilities and the like recently, hopefully he gets a little more through his thick head.

I do not think the Chiefs win it this year. Baltimore or Buffalo or Philly would be my bet.

[*ochocincos*]

Will we ever see the Bengals truly go all in in Mike Brown's lifetime?

Cap can be manipulated and continually pushed down the road.
Draft picks can be traded away to get proven talent.

These two things seem to be things that the Bengals FO doesn't believe in or know.

[WildCat]

(01-05-2025, 09:29 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: The rot starts at the top. Everyone is aware, I think.

But while he is still breathing, there is nothing to be done.

There has been some progress on facilities and the like recently, hopefully he gets a little more through his thick head.

I do not think the Chiefs win it this year. Baltimore or Buffalo or Philly would be my bet.

katie isn't going to be any different when she takes over. we already know this. and yeah i'd put money  on buffalo rn. getting rid of diggs seems to have completely changed that team as the cancer left the locker room.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(01-05-2025, 09:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Will we ever see the Bengals truly go all in in Mike Brown's lifetime?

Cap can be manipulated and continually pushed down the road.
Draft picks can be traded away to get proven talent.

These two things seem to be things that the Bengals FO doesn't believe in or know.

Yet teams like the Eagles and Rams do that stuff, win SB’s, and seemingly never have to pay the piper.

[*bfine32*]

(01-05-2025, 09:27 PM)WildCat Wrote: vrabel's about to take the patriots HC position. he would've been the best HC for cincy as defense would improve immediately. that's how KC has done what they've done.

After we beat Vrael in the 2021 playoffs on our way to the Superbowl he's had a 13-21 record as a HC. Meanwhile, we've finished our 4th straight winning season.

But he would be our best HC because....

[TecmoBengals]

I agree with the premise that Mike Brown might very well still be heavily involved in running the show, but it isn't a truth "we all ignore" as many posts exist questioning his overarching presence over Bengals land.

[WildCat]

(01-05-2025, 09:35 PM)bfine32 Wrote: After we beat Vrael in the 2021 playoffs on our way to the Superbowl he's had a 13-21 record as a HC. Meanwhile, we've finished our 4th straight winning season.

But he would be our best HC because....

i see you didn't read the last part of my post there UL fan. "because the defense would improve immediately and that's why KC has done what they've done" 4th str8 winning season with 2 of them missing the playoffs. good point though UL fan i expect that from you.

[GodFather]

With the dead cat bounce ending, Mike Brown couldn't be happier because there won't be any major changes this offseason and we will see Zac and particularly Lou back next season.

I didn't think for a second they would move on from Zac but had hopes we would completely revamp this horrid defense starting with Lou and working down the coaching positions but Mike is tickled because no money or effort will be spent on the hierarchy on the defense this offseason. We will pick up half ass players in the Rankins, Stone talent level and the Ole Groundhog's Day will begin again.

Mike got an early Birthday gift, an official reason to sit on his hands with his usual one liner he's been saying for decades... "I like where we are at, we were doin' some good things" *



*Actual quote he has used after multiple disappointing seasons*

[jj22]

Why is everyone getting praised but MB?

[*michaelsean*]

Mike Brown didn’t have yet another unprepared team to start the season. But he is the one that retained this staff so I guess he is to blame.