2025 DE's where we at?

[*Synric*]

(01-10-2025, 02:09 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Think they go 6 DEs, 4 DTs or 5-5?

They usually go with a 5-5 split but sometimes they keep 11 and go light at LB or DB. Likely LB with Bachie and ADG free agents. 

[007BengalsFan]

Chase Young is a good but not great DE. He would be better than Hubbard, Murphy or Ossai. I wouldnt pay much money for him though. His contract last year was worth 13 million. If you could get him for 13 million per year on a 3 or 4 year deal that would be a good signing.

Ossai played better at the end of the year but I wouldnt let that fool me into thinking we could count on him as a starter next year. He would be a good rotational piece if we could re-sign him for a decent price

[*ochocincos*]

(01-10-2025, 07:33 PM)Synric Wrote: They usually go with a 5-5 split but sometimes they keep 11 and go light at LB or DB. Likely LB with Bachie and ADG free agents. 

We'll have to see what the new DC wants to do.
They may wanna run 3 LBs more frequently, especially in a division that runs so much.

[*ochocincos*]

(01-10-2025, 08:44 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Chase Young is a good but not great DE.  He would be better than Hubbard, Murphy or Ossai.   I wouldnt pay much money for him though.  His contract last year was worth 13 million.  If you could get him for 13 million per year on a 3 or 4 year deal that would be a good signing.

Ossai played better at the end of the year but I wouldnt let that fool me into thinking we could count on him as a starter next year.  He would be a good rotational piece if we could re-sign him for a decent price

I 100% agree on CY.
He's also still only 25 years old.

[phil413]

It's appalling how many resources have been spent on one if the worst position groups with one of the best one DE in the league.

No rookie should be expected to start and they're going to have no leverage in having to keep Hill and Ossai. Bare minimum you probably have to pay market value or above for a league average NT and then walk into the draft knowing you'll have to go DE in 1 or 2 instead of BPA. Anything above that would be greatly appreciated but unexpected from the FO.

[Speedy Thomas]

(01-09-2025, 03:51 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Bengals need...one interior defensive lineman...one defensive end...help in the secondary...linebaker..and interior offensive linemen....going to be an intersting offseason

Amen to this.  Speedy's wish list started with new defensive staff.  So far, so good.  Continues with BPA defensive player in first two rounds.  Doesn't matter what position, defense needs help at all 3 levels.  Address IOL and defense in free agency.  Oh yeah, extend Chase, re-sign Tee, and a raise for Trey.  Won't be easy but that's what it will take to keep Speedy happy.  And if Speedy ain't happy nobody's happy.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-14-2025, 10:45 AM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Amen to this.  Speedy's wish list started with new defensive staff.  So far, so good.  Continues with BPA defensive player in first two rounds.  Doesn't matter what position, defense needs help at all 3 levels.  Address IOL and defense in free agency.  Oh yeah, extend Chase, re-sign Tee, and a raise for Trey.  Won't be easy but that's what it will take to keep Speedy happy.  And if Speedy ain't happy nobody's happy.

Let's keep Speedy happy.

[Speedy Thomas]

(01-14-2025, 02:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Let's keep Speedy happy.

Appreciate that.  Now I need someone to talk to Mrs. Speedy.

[Joelist]

(01-10-2025, 07:33 PM)Synric Wrote: They usually go with a 5-5 split but sometimes they keep 11 and go light at LB or DB. Likely LB with Bachie and ADG free agents. 

I expect a new DC will being a system change and we will be carrying more LB than under Lou.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-14-2025, 09:08 PM)Joelist Wrote: I expect a new DC will being a system change and we will be carrying more LB than under Lou.

Really? Doesn't most of the league run some sort of Nickle as their main defensive scheme? I'd look for the Safety/LB "tweeners" to cover the short middle and run support.

[Ell Prez]

(01-09-2025, 03:51 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Bengals need...one interior defensive lineman...one defensive end...help in the secondary...linebaker..and interior offensive linemen....going to be an intersting offseason

And a WR2

[Housh]

I’d keep Ossai for 4M if he wanted to come back

Cut Hubbard


Play Cedric more

Resign Trey for 3 years 75M

Draft a DE in the first 4 rounds

And I’d sign another DE for depth. But my rotation would be Trey, Myles, Cedric, Ossai, 1st or 2nd round pick and another depth vet.

Thinking guard has to be addressed early so maybe edge, OG, and MLB? You could easily get a top 5 MLB and OG with your first picks

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-17-2025, 12:13 PM)Housh Wrote: I’d keep Ossai for 4M if he wanted to come back

Cut Hubbard


Play Cedric more

Resign Trey for 3 years 75M

Draft a DE in the first 4 rounds

And I’d sign another DE for depth. But my rotation would be Trey,  Myles, Cedric, Ossai, 1st or 2nd round pick and another depth vet.

Thinking guard has to be addressed early so maybe edge, OG, and MLB? You could easily get a top 5 MLB and OG with your first picks

You want another MIKE over Logan? Have we already gave up on the man?

BTW, I like your other thoughts here. Bring back Ossai, play Cedric more, but I would add an End like Redick who shouldn't be too expensive
after his poor year and problems. But Hasaan is still a really good pass rusher and would be perfect on the other side of Trey.

[007BengalsFan]

(01-17-2025, 04:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You want another MIKE over Logan? Have we already gave up on the man?

BTW, I like your other thoughts here. Bring back Ossai, play Cedric more, but I would add an End like Redick who shouldn't be too expensive
after his poor year and problems. But Hasaan is still a really good pass rusher and would be perfect on the other side of Trey.

I would rather have Young over Reddick if cost is close.   Reddick's 3 year contract was about 15 million per year.  Young's contact last year was 13 million.  If Im going to spend 15 million per year, give me Young at 25 years old vs Reddick at 30.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-17-2025, 05:52 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I would rather have Young over Reddick if cost is close.   Reddick's 3 year contract was about 15 million per year.  Young's contact last year was 13 million.  If Im going to spend 15 million per year, give me Young.

Understandable, I like either for us, just think Redick will be a bit cheaper and is a bit better pass rusher as he is only 1 year removed from 11+
sacks and last year was him just being on the Jets wreck of a team. Chase Young is the better overall End, better run stopper and could be a 11+
sack guy as well. For either guy, just heard us linked to Redick lately.

[pulses]

(01-17-2025, 12:13 PM)Housh Wrote: I’d keep Ossai for 4M if he wanted to come back

Cut Hubbard


Play Cedric more

Resign Trey for 3 years 75M

Draft a DE in the first 4 rounds

And I’d sign another DE for depth. But my rotation would be Trey,  Myles, Cedric, Ossai, 1st or 2nd round pick and another depth vet.

Thinking guard has to be addressed early so maybe edge, OG, and MLB? You could easily get a top 5 MLB and OG with your first picks

jay Higgins Iowa in the 4th multi role LB who is the best in coverage LB in this draft

[treee]

As good as Trey is he is at the crucial age juncture where he will almost certainly not live up to the payday that he is going to get.

[007BengalsFan]

(01-18-2025, 02:41 PM)treee Wrote: As good as Trey is he is at the crucial age juncture where he will almost certainly not live up to the payday that he is going to get.

He gives 100% out there and has earned a raise.  I hope the Bengals can work something out that gives Trey a bump in salary but also doesnt tie the team down if his production falls off a cliff