3 things that Must change next season

[kevin]

Main Thing That Must Change :  Starting 0-2 or 0-3.....and Why do the Bengals start 0-2 or 0-3 ???  Because starters take off all preseason games.  Oh, we are wimpy, we don't want an injury.   So instead they think they can just throw their jock straps on the field and play themselves into shape in regular season.  Every season they start 0-2 or 0-3, the hole is dug, forget play-offs.  

What MUST change is a stronger preseason.  This wimpy approach to preseason is carrying into start of regular season.  The Bengals are never ready and keep starting 0-2 or 0-3.   That kills the play-off chances right there.  Forget who they signed or drafted.  Weak preseason leading to starting 0-2 or 0-3 is killing this franchise.  Bengals Fans will say they don't want Starters in preseason games, but I say it is causing the 0-2 and 0-3 starts.  They could have the best players in NFL, but if they are not ready to start the season, they will keep starting 0-2 or 0-3 in September.

That HAS to change, but my fear is it will NOT change, because Bengals think wimpy preseasons are the way to go.  Losing Septembers keep showing Bengals are Wrong. I will say one thing about Coach Lewis.  He put Focus on being ready to Go in Game One of Regular Season.  Not being ready to go is a Coach Taylor weakness. Someone needs to remind the Mike Brown Family that Paul Brown had his teams ready to go start of regular season, because there was nothing wimpy about a Paul Brown preseason. Same with Forrest Gregg out of The Lombardi school of coaching. Grass drills until you puke was what Gregg brought to Bengals training camp, Gregg saying come the 4th quarter, we will be the team in the best shape from all these grass drills and hard practices.  People forget that the year Sam Wyche went Super Bowl, Paul Brown came down and showed Sam how to run Training Camp not so wimpy.  Paul Brown said Sam needed a guiding hand on that.  Paul Brown making it a tougher camp resulted in Bengals in Super Bowl.  

Wimpy preseason MUST change, or 0-2 or 0-3 starts will continue, knocking Bengals play-off chances away first weeks of season. 

[c766]

(01-15-2025, 10:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: DeAndre Hopkins is absolutely a #2 WR still. 

What a great take.  '#2 WR Hopkins' has 1 catch on 3 targets for 11 yards in the Chiefs 2 playoff games. 

I hope you dont work for the Bengals FO

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-16-2025, 12:23 AM)c766 Wrote: I dont really care about Deandre Hopkins, tbh.

(01-19-2025, 08:21 AM)c766 Wrote: Nice playoff game from Hopkins. He had as many receiving yards and catches as me.   He’s not a viable nfl wr anymore.  Especially in 8 months from now

(01-27-2025, 12:35 PM)c766 Wrote: What a great take.  '#2 WR Hopkins' has 1 catch on 3 targets for 11 yards in the Chiefs 2 playoff games. 

I hope you dont work for the Bengals FO

[c766]

(01-27-2025, 01:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:

Dont be salty; you said he still a #2 WR and comprable to Tee Higgins. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-27-2025, 02:17 PM)c766 Wrote: Dont be salty; you said he still a #2 WR and comprable to Tee Higgins. 

Much like your previous stats, you're just making shit up again. 

I can guarantee that I never said he was comparable to Tee because in this very thread I referred to Tee as a #1 WR multiple times. I did make fun of you choosing a cutoff point, finding out that it didn't prove the point you hoped it proved, and then choosing a different arbitrary cutoff point that helped you better (though still didn't prove the point you hoped).

This is actually kind of sad, dude. You made up stats two different times, made up a logically wrong excuse of why you made up stats, and were just blatantly wrong about 5 or 6 different players.... and now you just can't take the L and let it go.

[c766]

(01-27-2025, 02:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Much like your previous stats, you're just making shit up again. 

I can guarantee that I never said he was comparable to Tee because in this very thread I referred to Tee as a #1 WR multiple times. I did make fun of you choosing a cutoff point, finding out that it didn't prove the point you hoped it proved, and then choosing a different arbitrary cutoff point that helped you better (though still didn't prove the point you hoped).

This is actually kind of sad, dude. You made up stats two different times, made up a logically wrong excuse of why you made up stats, and were just blatantly wrong about 5 or 6 different players.... and now you just can't take the L and let it go.

Saying Hopkins is still a #2 nfl wr is the big L, talk about embarrassing

You said that. And he’s going to be 33 next season.

Thank god you’re not a talent evaluator for the bengals.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-27-2025, 02:59 PM)c766 Wrote: Saying Hopkins is still a #2 nfl wr is the big L, talk about embarrassing

You said that.  And he’s  going to be 33 next season.  

Thank god you’re not a talent evaluator for the bengals.

You said 4,363 divided by 5 was 545.
Then you made up an excuse and said 2,956 divided by 5 was 545.

You said that while literally on a computer of some sort with a built-in calculator. What an enormous L, super embarrassing.

Thank god you're not a grown ass adult who has at least a mandatory middle school education. Otherwise you might do things like make up a lie about what someone said in the exact same thread where they clear-as-day for anyone to see didn't say that. Nobody could warrant that big of an L, right?

[c766]

(01-27-2025, 03:07 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You said 4,363 divided by 5 was 545.
Then you made up an excuse and said 2,956 divided by 5 was 545.

You said that while literally on a computer of some sort with a built-in calculator. What an enormous L, super embarrassing.

Thank god you're not a grown ass adult who has at least a mandatory middle school education. Otherwise you might do things like make up a lie about what someone said in the exact same thread where they clear-as-day for anyone to see didn't say that. Nobody could warrant that big of an L, right?

So you are still saying Hopkins will be a viable #2 wr next year at age 33.

Lol

[c766]

(01-15-2025, 10:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: DeAndre Hopkins is absolutely a #2 WR still.

Hopkins: 3 receptions, 29 yards in three playoff games. lol

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-16-2025, 12:23 AM)c766 Wrote: I dont really care about Deandre Hopkins, tbh.

(01-19-2025, 08:21 AM)c766 Wrote: Hopkins

(01-27-2025, 12:35 PM)c766 Wrote: Hopkins

(01-27-2025, 02:59 PM)c766 Wrote: Hopkins

(01-27-2025, 03:15 PM)c766 Wrote: Hopkins

(02-17-2025, 08:06 PM)c766 Wrote: Hopkins

[Soonerpeace]

(01-13-2025, 02:27 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Bengals rush attempts per game...
2024: t-30th
2023: 30th
2022: 24th
2021: 19th

I  completely agree about a better running attack and more attempts.But they get 50 times more efficiency data than we do. We averaged 4.0 yards an attempt during that period. That’s lower 20%. Contrast that with yards per pass attempt and we are always top 10 or better when Joe is healthy. I think a better running attack would really help this offense. But I fault them on hanging on to Pollack more. But MB & the players liked Pollack. They just didn’t have any confidence in the run game. 

[*bengalfan74*]

(02-18-2025, 12:55 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I  completely agree about a better running attack and more attempts.But they get 50 times more efficiency data than we do. We averaged 4.0 yards an attempt during that period. That’s lower 20%. Contrast that with yards per pass attempt and we are always top 10 or better when Joe is healthy. I think a better running attack would really help this offense. But I fault them on hanging on to Pollack more. But MB & the players liked Pollack. They just didn’t have any confidence in the run game. 

FOR SURE !!

Under ZT our Average final place in rushing yards per season is 26th. And I get it we have JB we're absolutely going to live and die by the pass.

But it would benefit this offense immensely if we could actually run the ball more efficiently. 

[c766]

(02-18-2025, 02:24 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote:

You’re the one who says he’s a #2wr

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(02-18-2025, 01:53 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: FOR SURE !!

Under ZT our Average final place in rushing yards per season is 26th. And I get it we have JB we're absolutely going to live and die by the pass.

But it would benefit this offense immensely if we could actually run the ball more efficiently. 

Cannot imagine how good the Offense could be with a good interior OL, a good running game with these weapons and Joe Burrow...

(02-18-2025, 02:08 PM)c766 Wrote: You’re the one who says he’s a #2wr

He is in your head now....

[XsandOs]

(02-18-2025, 03:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: He is in your head now....

Nate, what happened to Fred Toast? Where is he? 

Do we have a resident curmudgeon who has replaced him? I see some on the board, but not a definite winner.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(02-18-2025, 04:24 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Nate, what happened to Fred Toast? Where is he? 

Do we have a resident curmudgeon who has replaced him? I see some on the board, but not a definite winner.

Fred got banned like a couple years ago and haven't seen him since. I think I would know if he came back and started high jacking threads again lol

It is a good question on who has replaced him, kind of happy I cannot answer as I was getting sick of every thread getting high jacked by Fred back 
then. We have some different posters who are still relatively new who I actually like a lot more. Fred was good with stats but not the best at watching
games and using his eyes. We have plenty of great stat guys now and I like the board the way it is.

As far as curmudgeons we have Frank Booth but he actually makes a lot of good posts that are spot on so he is cool with me.

We still get a bunch of trolls the Mods have to ban when they get out of hand, but overall the board is doing well especially this time of year.

[samhain]

One thing they can't do is stand pat with the current pass rush situation on defense. Trey is great, but everyone else leaves a lot to be desired. I think it's getting beyond draft and develop territory. They need a proven veteran on the other side or in the middle. It's probably the most expensive position that they really need to address, so it won't be easy. Having an elite qb and offense is a privilege, but teams become elite when you have a defense on the other side that can harass the qb and kill drives to get the offense back onto the field.

Agree with previous statements about the run game.

[XsandOs]

(02-18-2025, 05:17 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Fred got banned like a couple years ago and haven't seen him since. I think I would know if he came back and started high jacking threads again lol

It is a good question on who has replaced him, kind of happy I cannot answer as I was getting sick of every thread getting high jacked by Fred back 
then. We have some different posters who are still relatively new who I actually like a lot more. Fred was good with stats but not the best at watching
games and using his eyes. We have plenty of great stat guys now and I like the board the way it is.

As far as curmudgeons we have Frank Booth but he actually makes a lot of good posts that are spot on so he is cool with me.

We still get a bunch of trolls the Mods have to ban when they get out of hand, but overall the board is doing well especially this time of year.

Yes, the environment of the board is vastly improved. 

[ERIC1]

(01-13-2025, 03:00 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The "poor start" thing is such a lazy narrative.

Burrow has literally dealt with something ever year since his rookie year. Knee, wrist, apendectomy, strained calf, etc.

They start slow because he has started slow. And its not like this team has started 0-4 every year to start the year. They've been OK.

2021: 3-1
2022: 2-2
2023: 1-3
2024: 0-4

Like I get it, more urgency would be a great thing...but its been a couple years of slow starts...mainly due to our QB not being able to move from the pocket for half the year and him recovering from/having to learn how to deal with a rare significant wrist injury.

its not all on burrow..

[c766]

(02-19-2025, 11:30 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: its not all on burrow..

Taylor is 17-36 in one-score games. He’s just 13-23 against the AFC North.

Perhaps worst of all, he’s just 1-11 over the first two weeks of a season.