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Pick #17 if we lose Tee
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(01-21-2025, 05:02 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Why not both? After giving Chase his big deal, the Bengals could have Burrow's primary receiving weapons locked up for the next 4-5 years.

Exactly ThumbsUp
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(01-21-2025, 06:14 PM)Whatever Wrote: Egbuka isn't a bad prospect, but I would go with Warren, Loveland, or even Jeanty if I was taking an offensive weapon at 17.  Those guys have the potential to be special.  Egbuka will be good, but never be a top tier guy at his position.

I wouldn't bet on that.
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(01-21-2025, 07:07 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Maybe both, but...

Would you want to relegate Pitts to 3rd option in the offense?
Or if Pitts is 2nd option, would you want to have spent a 1st round pick on a guy who will be 3rd option in the offense?

You see Ocho I think this is painting with a big brush. I mean it's not like Pitts or whoever is always going to be the 3rd option on every play. 
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(01-22-2025, 12:12 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: You see Ocho I think this is painting with a big brush. I mean it's not like Pitts or whoever is always going to be the 3rd option on every play. 

True but it comes down to cost, ultimately.

The Bengals will have to worry about Chase's contract extension this/next year.
The most the Bengals have been willing to pay a non-WR1 in the offense has been Boyd's $10.75 mill APY.
I expect the Bengals only were ok paying Boyd that much as the 3rd option in the offense was because at the time, he was 2nd option and they had two studs on rookie contracts (Chase and Higgins).

I am personally ok paying for Pitts $10 mill for 2025 to be the 2nd-ish option and even extending him potentially for another few years because Egbuka wouldn't come off his rookie contract until Spring 2030.
Or drafting Loveland/Warren and paying for a few years of a WR2/3 caliber guy at around the same $10-12-ish mill APY price.

With that said, I can see some not liking the idea of paying $10+ mill for a guy who may only get 600-800 yards.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

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(01-22-2025, 12:38 PM)ochocincos Wrote: True but it comes down to cost, ultimately.

The Bengals will have to worry about Chase's contract extension this/next year.
The most the Bengals have been willing to pay a non-WR1 in the offense has been Boyd's $10.75 mill APY.
I expect the Bengals only were ok paying Boyd that much as the 3rd option in the offense was because at the time, he was 2nd option and they had two studs on rookie contracts (Chase and Higgins).

I am personally ok paying for Pitts $10 mill for 2025 to be the 2nd-ish option and even extending him potentially for another few years because Egbuka wouldn't come off his rookie contract until Spring 2030.
Or drafting Loveland/Warren and paying for a few years of a WR2/3 caliber guy at around the same $10-12-ish mill APY price.

With that said, I can see some not liking the idea of paying $10+ mill for a guy who may only get 600-800 yards.

I get what you're saying and mostly agree.

Here's the way I look at it and I'm in no way saying I'm an NFL contract expert, insider, have any special info, or whatever. Jamarr Chase isn't going to take the field next season for 9 million. They're going to have to rework his contract. He's going to demand to be up near the top and rightfully so. 

With that happening I just can't wrap my head around MB & Co. paying Tee very high end money as well. I'd say they'll make him an offer and some other team will double it and he'll be gone.

Gesicki is 29 years old and is just an ok option. And I'm not trying to slam him. And again I'd say the Bengals aren't going to bring him back for what he's going to want and may well get elsewhere.

If both of these things happen we're going to be hurting for options at receiver. Egbuka and Pitts would mend that issue well. IMHO
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Draft the best defensive player avaliable. No brain choice. We can adress our WR room with a 2nd day pick.
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(01-21-2025, 05:02 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Why not both? After giving Chase his big deal, the Bengals could have Burrow's primary receiving weapons locked up for the next 4-5 years.

Ja'Marr Chase, Kyle Pitts and Egbuka sure sounds pretty good to me...

(01-21-2025, 06:32 PM)J24 Wrote: Draft the best player available and don't reach for a WR. You can get a Jack Bech or Jaylen Royals in the second. Also a Orande Gadsden at TE would be a nice addition in the third or 4th rd.

That Gadsden is a talented TE for sure.

(01-22-2025, 01:36 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think realist expectation with Tee since we can franchise him and stop him from testing market in 2025

1. We sign him to a long-term deal and keep him.
2. We sign him to a long-term deal and trade him for multiple picks.
3. We tag him and keep him for 1 more year.
4. We do nothing, and he signs elsewhere.

It would be stupid for the FO to go to #4 and only get a compensatory pick in 2026, when at a minimum, they can get multiples like at least a 2nd and 4th rounder if we don't want to pay 2 WR's top bucks.

The key to it all is the Bengals have the hammer for one more year 2025.

Well said, as long as we don't go #4 with Tee I am happy.
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(01-22-2025, 01:36 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think realist expectation with Tee since we can franchise him and stop him from testing market in 2025

1. We sign him to a long-term deal and keep him.
2. We sign him to a long-term deal and trade him for multiple picks.
3. We tag him and keep him for 1 more year.
4. We do nothing, and he signs elsewhere.

It would be stupid for the FO to go to #4 and only get a compensatory pick in 2026, when at a minimum, they can get multiples like at least a 2nd and 4th rounder if we don't want to pay 2 WR's top bucks.

The key to it all is the Bengals have the hammer for one more year 2025.

3rd round comp pick, here we come baby!!!  Cool
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

Sorry for Party Rocking!

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