Over 63 Mil to Rebuild With

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(Yesterday, 11:14 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm in the "pay tee his money camp". Goodberry just had a good point of can the Bengals better spend the Tee money this offseason in a way that would be more impactful? The chances are low that we could get player or players that would have the impact he can have for us. I also don't think we can compare teams to say what exactly is a winning formula. The style offense the Bengals run of let Burrow drop back and distribute the ball you need receivers. Sign Tee try and add a guard in free agency and then see if we can fix the defense thru the draft and maybe some other FAs. With the way Burrow and Co. are playing we are in a win now window.

Tee's 28 million could get the Bengals Kevin Zeiter and James Daniels to fix the interior o-line, keeping Joe upright, giving him more time to throw, and improving the running game, with a few bucks left over.

Not to mention the potential player or pick(s) the Bengals could get via tagging and trading Higgins.

Tee for Maxx Crosby being the dream scenario.

[SunsetBengal]

(3 hours ago)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Tee's 28 million could get the Bengals Kevin Zeiter and James Daniels to fix the interior o-line, keeping Joe upright, giving him more time to throw, and improving the running game, with a few bucks left over.

Not to mention the potential player or pick(s) the Bengals could get via tagging and trading Higgins.

Tee for Maxx Crosby being the dream scenario.

That's the practical line of thinking that would improve the team in ways that retaining a weapon can not. Of course Zeitler would likely be a short term option due to his age, but if they draft his next in line this year, it could work out well. If you take those "few bucks left over" and add a few more to them, and they could add a very capable WR like Darius Slayton for about $16M/per (according to Spotrac).

[J24]

As of right now the Bengals have 31.6 Million dollars ( including 15 million for rookie and in season players) to spend in cap space if they cut the following players Alex Cappa, Sheldon Rankins, Germain Pratt, Sam Hubbard, Geno Stone, and Zack Moss they would have 74.3 Million dollars in cap. If they went further in cuts like for example Cordell Volson, Drew Sample, and Ted Karas we would have 85.4 Million in cap space. Now if you added all the cuts up and potential extensions with Tee -16(cap Addition), Chase- +11(cap savings) and Trey +3(cap savings) would leave you approximately 83.4 mi!lion in cap space.

[NUGDUKWE]

(3 hours ago)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Tee's 28 million could get the Bengals Kevin Zeiter and James Daniels to fix the interior o-line, keeping Joe upright, giving him more time to throw, and improving the running game, with a few bucks left over.

Not to mention the potential player or pick(s) the Bengals could get via tagging and trading Higgins.

Tee for Maxx Crosby being the dream scenario.

See dream scenarios is where I don't want to live. Yes the Bengals could add players that have a bigger impact than Tee potentionally but the odds are low that we make that happen. But letting Tee go and now that has to happen because you've added a major early need to the draft. You can't let Tee walk and not go all in on free agency which I think we might all over value to some extent due to the success we had for a few years. But we have had back to back bad free agencies. To me I think signing the big 3 and seeing what else we can make happen in FA before the draft is our best option. 

[NUGDUKWE]

(20 minutes ago)J24 Wrote: As of right now the Bengals have 31.6 Million dollars ( including 15 million for rookie and in season players) to spend in cap space if they cut the following players Alex Cappa, Sheldon Rankins, Germain Pratt, Sam Hubbard,  Geno Stone, and Zack Moss they would have 74.3 Million dollars in cap. If they went further in cuts like for example Cordell Volson, Drew Sample, and Ted Karas we would have  85.4 Million in cap space. Now if you added all the cuts up and potential extensions with Tee -16(cap Addition), Chase-  +11(cap savings) and Trey +3(cap savings) would leave you approximately 83.4 mi!lion in cap space.

Obviously we wouldn't cut all those players but I get you are just making a point. But that's another important point on Tee and Chase signings you could actually get some cap relief this year doing it right and enable you to still get some outside FAs before the draft. 
The time to go all in is now. After this past sseason Seeing the potential of the offense and what this team can be there is no holding back. Normally I wouldn't get to optimistic that the team would go all in but now the players are watching. Burrow,Chase all our top players the team needs to prove they want to win and are willing to push the envelope to give ourselves the best chance.

[SunsetBengal]

(20 minutes ago)J24 Wrote: As of right now the Bengals have 31.6 Million dollars ( including 15 million for rookie and in season players) to spend in cap space if they cut the following players Alex Cappa, Sheldon Rankins, Germain Pratt, Sam Hubbard,  Geno Stone, and Zack Moss they would have 74.3 Million dollars in cap. If they went further in cuts like for example Cordell Volson, Drew Sample, and Ted Karas we would have  85.4 Million in cap space. Now if you added all the cuts up and potential extensions with Tee -16(cap Addition), Chase-  +11(cap savings) and Trey +3(cap savings) would leave you approximately 83.4 mi!lion in cap space.

Where are you getting that number? This is what people who make their living off of keeping track of sports numbers have to say.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(15 minutes ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: See dream scenarios is where I don't want to live. Yes the Bengals could add players that have a bigger impact than Tee potentionally but the odds are low that we make that happen. But letting Tee go and now that has to happen because you've added a major early need to the draft. You can't let Tee walk and not go all in on free agency which I think we might all over value to some extent due to the success we had for a few years. But we have had back to back bad free agencies. To me I think signing the big 3 and seeing what else we can make happen in FA before the draft is our best option. 

To me, the logic boils down to what is better for the team's success. I realize, as do you, what they are likely to do is a different scenario.

Using the Tee money to sign a top guard and edge rusher, or two guards, is more inclined towards the overall success of the team. I think many in the "trade Tee" camp are looking at the potential value (proven players and/or picks) and the cap opening up allowing for signing known value players in free agency.

I agree the Bengals may not make the best moves and may crap the bed in free agency like they did last year. I am putting forth reasonable, trade for Crosby is my pipe dream, available scenarios.