BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-07-2025, 07:37 PM)pulses Wrote: Spotrac has BJ Hill's market value at 2 yrs and 18 million. That's not terrible.

Nope, not bad at all. Kind of surprised we haven't re-signed BJ at that price, but I think Jonathan Allen would be an upgrade like I said.

[pulses]

(03-07-2025, 07:44 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nope, not bad at all. Kind of surprised we haven't re-signed BJ at that price, but I think Jonathan Allen would be an upgrade like I said.

I agree

[SunsetBengal]

(03-07-2025, 07:35 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Sounds like he didn't return after this injury.  It shows him missing 13 games, which seems to include the playoff games they were in.

But...his current injury situation for next year is described as... very low risk.  He's definitely healed.

He played 8 games. He was injured in week 6, obviously he came back at some point and played 2 more games. Was played 20 games last year.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo01.htm

Says here that he played in 8, but only started 7 games. Maybe that is the discrepancy?

[samhain]

Is Allen the one that wrecked Joe's knee or was that Payne?

[jfkbengals]

(03-07-2025, 08:45 PM)samhain Wrote: Is Allen the one that wrecked Joe's knee or was that Payne?

Chase Young.

[*bfine32*]

Would folks shaking their fists prefer the Bengals did what CLEV are doing to Garrett?

[SunsetBengal]

(03-07-2025, 09:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Would folks shaking their fists prefer the Bengals did what CLEV are doing to Garrett?

Aren't they doing the same? How is how the Bengals are handling this situation different?

[*bfine32*]

(03-07-2025, 09:54 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Aren't they doing the same? How is how the Bengals are handling this situation different?

They are as different as different can be. Garrett wants a trade and the Browns won't let him shop himself. Hell, he asked to speak with the owner and the owner said no. 

Bengals are letting Trey see what he can get

[George Cantstandya]

(03-07-2025, 09:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: They are as different as different can be. Garrett wants a trade and the Browns won't let him shop himself. Hell, he asked to speak with the owner and the owner said no. 

Bengals are letting Trey see what he can get

The Browns also have a huge dead cap this year if they trade Garret pre June 1st to the tune of 36 million.  The Bengals if Trey is traded only 2.6 million dead cap.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-07-2025, 09:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: They are as different as different can be. Garrett wants a trade and the Browns won't let him shop himself. Hell, he asked to speak with the owner and the owner said no. 

Bengals are letting Trey see what he can get

They'll save money trading him too. Replace him with a cost controlled draft pick.

[*bfine32*]

(03-07-2025, 10:03 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: The Browns also have a huge dead cap this year if they trade Garret pre June 1st to the tune of 36 million.  The Bengals if Trey is traded only 2.6 million. 

What if they wait till post June 1st

[George Cantstandya]

(03-07-2025, 10:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What if they designate him post June 1st

I don't think you can designate someone as a post June 1st trade only a post June 1st cut.   Then the dead cap is 14.7 million.  

[*bfine32*]

(03-07-2025, 10:09 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: I don't think you can designate someone as a post June 1st trade only a post June 1st cut.   Then the dead cap is 14.7 million.  

You are correct. I updated my wording. Seems they could work something, if they wanted. I get it would be convoluted. 

[George Cantstandya]

(03-07-2025, 10:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You are correct. I updated my wording. Seems they could work something, if they wanted. I get it would be convoluted. 

Sorry I caught you pre-edit.  Yeah I suppose they could work out some kind of delayed trade agreement with someone.  But it would be interesting because it would happen after the draft.  So I don't think there could be any draft picks exchanged this year.  So it would have to be for player(s) and or future draft picks.  

[SunsetBengal]

(03-07-2025, 10:18 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Sorry I caught you pre-edit.  Yeah I suppose they could work out some kind of delayed trade agreement with someone.  But it would be interesting because it would happen after the draft.  So I don't think there could be any draft picks exchanged this year.  So it would have to be for player(s) and or future draft picks.  

It would be very interesting to see something like that happen. I'm sure that it would be a hot topic at the next NFLPA meeting.

[George Cantstandya]

(03-07-2025, 10:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It would be very interesting to see something like that happen. I'm sure that it would be a hot topic at the next NFLPA meeting.

Yeah I guess technically if the Browns wanted draft picks this year for Garrett they could make a sneaky agreement with some team.  Say something like we'll trade you this backup special teams player making league minimum for your late 1st round pick and your 3rd round pick.  Then after June 1st we'll trade you Garrett for that backup special team player we sent you before the draft.  But I imagine the owners would have a significant issue with that before it even really started. 

It would be funny to see it attempted though. 

[SunsetBengal]

(03-07-2025, 10:52 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Yeah I mean I guess technically if the Browns wanted draft picks this year for Garrett they could make a sneaky agreement with some team.  Say something like we'll trade you this backup special teams player making league minimum for your late 1st round pick and your 3rd round pick.  Then after June 1st we'll trade you Garrett for that backup special team player we sent you before the draft.  But I imagine the owners would have a significant issue with that before it even really started. 

Yeah, I just don't see a way for the Browns to escape the full cap hit of Garrett this year, and still be able to reap any rewards from it in this draft.

[swilson3828]

(03-06-2025, 05:39 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: I can’t wait to digest the copium around here when they don’t sign Tee to a LTC. I don’t see any possible way they don’t sign Chase. Even the Brown Family won’t screw that pooch.

Oh the Brown family could too.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-07-2025, 07:30 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: When I listed the previous years, those were those players CAREERS of reaching 10+ sacks. So 2022 was 3 seasons of attempts at reaching 10 from each and still only that few.

Not a single player in 2022 or 2023 reached 10 sacks in their rookie season.

So yeah, there hasn't been a 10-sack rookie since Parsons in 2021.


You have that feeling because Tee missed the first 2 weeks of the season where the offense has been horrible regardless of him being there or not the previous 4 years WITH him.

When he missed that 3 game stretch the Bengals averaged almost 31 points per game without him. 


It would also erase any chance he ever has of getting a final large payday in his career because he would be heading into FA going into his age 33 season. 

He'd lose a huge amount of money taking that deal. Heck, he already lost money taking that previous 1-year extension.

Plus "plans" on tagging is not actual guarantees. They can just not tag him at any time if he breaks both his legs and he gets nothing.

He would lose a lot of money being tagged?
The tag is a lot.
If he's tagged a second time, it's even better.
He'd get an extra near $50+ mill if tagged twice.
And it would essentially be fully guaranteed without the Bengals having to put all that into escrow in 2025.

At the end of the day though, he technically doesn't have a choice.
Bengals don't HAVE to trade him this year.
They can choose to tag him next year, even twice if they wanted.
The only thing Hendrickson can choose to do is retire really, but that literally takes money off the table for him.
Given his age and position he plays, he can't take a year off refusing to play.

[Tomkat]

What the actual f**k
Why am I a fan of this stupid forsaken team????