BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded

[Essex Johnson]

(03-11-2025, 01:00 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We certainly did not appear to be a team looking for DE1 today. Those are all gone..

well it was a thin market and a good amount stayed with their team, but Bosa, Ojulari and Fowlers are three i would look at for edge pressure

[ERIC1]

(03-11-2025, 12:18 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I agree with you. I mean I'd just sign the dude instead of tagging him. Im just looking at it from the Bengals perspetive. 

The Chase deal will get done and Higgins can't be tagged next year, so its basically just on Trey. 

the bengals have done what they needed to do so far..we can get an explosive pass rusher and good receiver in the draft..I have to laugh at the previous poster that you were replying to..Yes, players do talk...so what ..If the team is paying someone 15-30-50 million a year ..they can talk away all they want..I could care less..People in any organization talk..If this team can get a high draft pick for trey I am all in..You know I have watched other tremendous pass rushers..and when something else is happening in another part of the line..they break off their wrestling match  and run to help out..Trey does not....This organization ..and actions speak louder than words  knows the inherent issues on this team..they have let the defensive coordinator and offensive line coach go..They are shoring up their rotational players ..they resigned Mike Gesicki..whom is a very good receiver more than a tight end..they kept Bj..the young defensive line players were playing exceptionally well the last 5 games of the season..I have high hopes for this team..As of now we copuld use three things..a guard..a pass rusher and another 2-3 receiver..I think this will be addressed either through the draft and or FA..WHO DEY..time for spring golf and Pappy..have a great day

[Nepa]

(03-11-2025, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The plyayer the Bengals have the biggest investment for 2025  of the big 3 as of now is Tee Higgins at over 26 million, then Chase at 21,6 and then Trey at 15,8.

The FO has a decision to make, but that decisiion can be made after the draft. The big 3 are under contract right now for 2025 so while the fan's urgency to get the deald done,  the Bengals don't gain a lot by getting them done. They do not have to do anything to get over the cap and have money to spend still.

Fans - overly urgent
Teams - no urgency

And that is why we have fans freaking out.

The urgency is because fans saw that Chase, who at the time was under contract for two more years, did a hold-in last preseason. (Despite fans thinking he would never do that; that he was just giving time for the youngsters, etc.). So, if Chase did a hold-in last year, then it is not inconceivable that the three (Chase, Trey, Tee) would all do a hold-in if they don't get a new contract, and maybe  Tee doesn't sign the tag until the end of preseason. Which would mean goodbye to any quick start to the season. I don't think any fan thought we would be waiting so long for a contract for Chase and Higgins, which began seriously a year ago. And not having contracts also adds a lot of uncertainty into the free agency and draft process.

[007BengalsFan]

(03-11-2025, 12:36 PM)pally Wrote: They can only franchise Chase or Trey next season.  They can only franchise a player 2 seasons in a row so Tee is maxed out

You can franchise tag a player 3 times.  The issue is the 3rd time you use the franchise tag it pays the player 144% of his 2nd franchise tag.  Since Tee is making ~26.2 million on his 2nd franchise tag, that means the 3rd tag would pay him ~37.7 million. 

[Luvnit2]

(03-11-2025, 12:41 PM)Nepa Wrote: The urgency is because fans saw that Chase, who at the time was under contract for two more years, did a hold-in last preseason. (Despite fans thinking he would never do that; that he was just giving time for the youngsters, etc.). So, if Chase did a hold-in last year, then it is not inconceivable that the three (Chase, Trey, Tee) would all do a hold-in if they don't get a new contract, and maybe  Tee doesn't sign the tag until the end of preseason. Which would me goodbye to any quick start to the season. I don't think any fan thought we would be waiting so long for a contract for Chase and Higgins, which began seriously a year ago. And not having contracts also adds a lot of uncertainty into the free agency and draft process.

Tee has no choice. If no long term deal is completed by July 15th, the tag kicks in for the player. So the only player who can play games is Chase. Trey will not sit out and be fined. Tee may sit and be fined, but it is money team can collect to offset his salary. 

How much is a fine for a holdout? 

For the 2023 season under the NFL's current collective bargaining agreement, players who have an unexcused absense from a mandatory off-season minicamp can be fined $16,459 for the first day, $32,920 for the second day and $49,374 for the third day, according to Over the Cap. 


A player who holds out during training camp, which opens in July, can be fined $50,000 per day, which is up from $30,000 under the previous collective bargaining agreement. The previous CBA also allowed teams to forgive accumulated fines once a deal was reached, but that is no longer an option unless the absent player is on a rookie contract.  

The team can waive the fines or not. But again, the team has the cards and not the player.

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/03/04/nfl-franchise-tag-do-players-have-to-accept/


Do NFL players have to accept the franchise tag?

Technically, no. But the ramifications of refusing to sign make it an undesirable move.

If a player is tagged, he’s left with almost no choice. His only recourse for a long-term deal that same season would be to sign one with the tagging team. Otherwise, every franchise tag recipient in the NFL either has to reach an extension by July 15 or be locked into the one-year deal, even if he ends up traded.

[XsandOs]

(03-11-2025, 12:48 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: You can franchise tag a player 3 times.  The issue is the 3rd time you use the franchise tag it pays the player 144% of his 2nd franchise tag.  Since Tee is making ~26.2 million on his 2nd franchise tag, that means the 3rd tag would pay him ~37.7 million. 

We should use the tag on Chase next year.


And the year after!!!

[007BengalsFan]

(03-11-2025, 01:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Tee has no choice. If no long term deal is completed by July 15th, the tag kicks in for the player. So the only player who can play games is Chase. Trey will not sit out and be fined. Tee may sit and be fined, but it is money team can collect to offset his salary...

The July 15 deadline doesnt mean Tee is automatically signed to the tag.  Tee still actually has to sign.  What the July deadline means is from that point on, Tee can no longer negotiate a new contract until the next season.  If he decides to play after July 15, he has to play on the franchise tag with no new contract.  He can choose not to sign the tag and sit out.  Tagged players do not have to play.  They can sit out the season if they want.  Le'Veon Bell sat out a season when the Steelers tagged him a 2nd time.  It however is very costly as ultimately the player ends up losing money by not playing.  Bell never recovered and regrets sitting out over the contract dispute.

[007BengalsFan]

(03-11-2025, 01:07 PM)XsandOs Wrote: We should use the tag on Chase next year.


And the year after!!!

I have made this point a couple of times.  Chase shouldnt be too greedy on his contract demands.  The Bengals could tag him 3 times and end up paying him far less than what he is demanding and the Bengals wouldnt have to guarantee any money except for the current year they tagged him.  The Bengals can easily force Chase's hand the next 4 years so dont be greedy.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Nah. We should be tagging Trey the next two.

Chase & Tee are both young. Their production should be good over the length of the deal.

Trey is 31. You might want to avoid a long term deal there. He and his agent know it. That is why they are starting to say pay me or trade me.

[*jason*]

(03-11-2025, 01:38 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Nah. We should be tagging Trey the next two.

Chase & Tee are both young. Their production should be good over the length of the deal.

Trey is 31. You might want to avoid a long term deal there. He and his agent know it. That is why they are starting to say pay me or trade me.

Not to mention that they wilfully signed the current deal that he is playing out. Trey got a shit ton of sacks over the past two seasons... Awesome, love to keep you around and keep that rolling. I just don't want to risk paying 32 million to a 33 year old who is now starting to break down, and is now getting 6 sacks, and still a liability against the run. I'd give him one year, fully guaranteed of his asking price. Take it or get tagged next year.

[Nepa]

(03-11-2025, 01:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Tee has no choice. If no long term deal is completed by July 15th, the tag kicks in for the player. ***

No, you're wrong. July 15 is the deadline to negotiate a long-term contract. The tag does not kick in for the player until he signs his tender. A player doesn't have to sign his tender until the Tuesday FOLLOWING WEEK 10 to remain eligible to play, which would also allow him to accrue a season. A tagged player is not obligated to play just because a team has tagged him. What I stated is it is possible for Tee to not sign until the end of the preseason, which he can do and not forfeit any salary.

[J24]

(03-11-2025, 01:07 PM)XsandOs Wrote: We should use the tag on Chase next year.


And the year after!!!

(03-11-2025, 01:33 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I have made this point a couple of times.  Chase shouldnt be too greedy on his contract demands.  The Bengals could tag him 3 times and end up paying him far less than what he is demanding and the Bengals wouldnt have to guarantee any money except for the current year they tagged him.  The Bengals can easily force Chase's hand the next 4 years so dont be greedy.

This is a terrible idea!

[007BengalsFan]

(03-11-2025, 01:51 PM)J24 Wrote: This is a terrible idea!

It is a terrible idea but so too is trying to hold your team ransom on contract negotiations when they need money to sign other guys.  Chase should be paid very well for what he brings to the table but if he gets too demanding the Bengals have options moving forward.  Be fair, dont be greedy or you risk forcing that type of situation.

[Luvnit2]

(03-11-2025, 01:49 PM)Nepa Wrote: No, you're wrong. July 15 is the deadline to negotiate a long-term contract. The tag does not kick in for the player until he signs his tender. A player doesn't have to sign his tender until the Tuesday FOLLOWING WEEK 10 to remain eligible to play, which would also allow him to accrue a season. A tagged player is not obligated to play just because a team has tagged him. What I stated is it is possible for Tee to not sign until the end of the preseason, which he can do and not forfeit any salary.

This is in the post you responded.


If a player is tagged, he’s left with almost no choice. His only recourse for a long-term deal that same season would be to sign one with the tagging team. Otherwise, every franchise tag recipient in the NFL either has to reach an extension by July 15 or be locked into the one-year deal, even if he ends up traded.
 I even provided the link for the entire article. 

[Bengalstripes9]

(03-11-2025, 02:07 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: It is a terrible idea but so too is trying to hold your team ransom on contract negotiations when they need money to sign other guys.  Chase should be paid very well for what he brings to the table but if he gets too demanding the Bengals have options moving forward.  Be fair, dont be greedy or you risk forcing that type of situation.

I'm trying to think of a way to describe how bad the idea is without insulting anyone's intelligence.

If you make this into an us versus them situation it won't end well.

This is a team sport after all.

Why would anyone want to create division amongst a team?

It weakens the team.

By telling Chase we want to hold him hostage and not pay him what he's worth that creates a toxic environment and who would want to play here in that environment?

On a larger scale this applies to US politics as well. People need more common sense and need to work together instead of letting the media divide us.

Group dynamics are interesting. In general division weakens any team and that team will get outcompeted by other teams.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-11-2025, 02:07 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: It is a terrible idea but so too is trying to hold your team ransom on contract negotiations when they need money to sign other guys.  Chase should be paid very well for what he brings to the table but if he gets too demanding the Bengals have options moving forward.  Be fair, dont be greedy or you risk forcing that type of situation.

These guys all want to be the top paid player at their position. Chase won't take less so that the team can sign more guys. These guys don't care.

Most of the teams in the league would likely make him the top paid WR. AND they'd guarantee a lot of the money too.

[XsandOs]

(03-11-2025, 01:47 PM)jason Wrote: Not to mention that they wilfully signed the current deal that he is playing out. Trey got a shit ton of sacks over the past two seasons... Awesome, love to keep you around and keep that rolling. I just don't want to risk paying 32 million to a 33 year old who is now starting to break down, and is now getting 6 sacks, and still a liability against the run. I'd give him one year, fully guaranteed of his asking price. Take it or get tagged next year.

That is the main issue. 

[Nepa]

(03-11-2025, 02:31 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This is in the post you responded.


If a player is tagged, he’s left with almost no choice. His only recourse for a long-term deal that same season would be to sign one with the tagging team. Otherwise, every franchise tag recipient in the NFL either has to reach an extension by July 15 or be locked into the one-year deal, even if he ends up traded.
 I even provided the link for the entire article. 

Very good. i should have read to the bottom of the post before responding. My mistake.

Edit: Although re-reading it, you were responding to my comment that it is "possible that Tee doesn't sign the tag until the end of preseason" and you're response to that, which you highlighted, was "Tee has no choice." But clearly he has a choice to not sign until the end of the preseason and he still wouldn't lose any game checks.

[NATI BENGALS]

I feel like it would have happened by now if we were going to trade Trey.

Seems like most of the teams mentioned as possible suitors have signed an edge rusher.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(03-11-2025, 06:25 PM)RegularGuy22 Wrote: Trey is off to GB.

No he isn't, stop posting this.

Either provide a link or go away.