TJ Slaton is a Bengal

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(03-11-2025, 10:41 AM)CJD Wrote: Any time a fan base of a team mourns a player leaving in free agency to join our team, it makes me feel like the signing was good.

The worst is when you go look and they are celebrating someone finally taking a player off their hands. That's a horrible sign haha.

Nick Scott.

Yeah. Eagles fans are sad to lose Burks and Packers fans the same with Slaton. Good signs..

Now lets get 2 guards: Jenkins + Zeitler/Scherff/Becton.

[Sled21]

(03-12-2025, 01:46 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Nick Scott.

Yeah. Eagles fans are sad to lose Burks and Packers fans the same with Slaton. Good signs..

Now lets get 2 guards: Jenkins + Zeitler/Scherff/Becton.

Freakin Zeitler is 35 years old. He played in leather helmets for crying out loud....  Now Becton, on the other hand, is only 25

[Luvnit2]

(03-12-2025, 10:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Freakin Zeitler is 35 years old. He played in leather helmets for crying out loud....  Now Becton, on the other hand, is only 25

There was this guy named Andrew Whittworth who played extremely well at 35 years old. Have you heard of him?

I am not saying he is my 1st choice, but at 35 still better than Cappa, Ford and Volson.

[Sled21]

(03-12-2025, 10:41 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: There was this guy named Andrew Whittworth who played extremely well at 35 years old. Have you heard of him?

I am not saying he is my 1st choice, but at 35 still better than Cappa, Ford and Volson.

And what pray tell makes Andrew Whitworth playing as well as he did at 35 a thing? Hint: It's how rare that is. I wasn't big on giving a long contract to Whit due to his age, and the same goes for Zeitler. Father time is unbeaten. Whit pushed it back about as well as anyone, but even he gave it up. Guard is a much more violent position to play than Tackle as well. 

[THE PISTONS]

(03-12-2025, 10:45 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And what pray tell makes Andrew Whitworth playing as well as he did at 35 a thing? Hint: It's how rare that is. I wasn't big on giving a long contract to Whit due to his age, and the same goes for Zeitler. Father time is unbeaten. Whit pushed it back about as well as anyone, but even he gave it up. Guard is a much more violent position to play than Tackle as well. 

Tackle is different than Guard. But yes...Zeitler will have risk of decline soon. Prefer Becton or Jenkins.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(03-12-2025, 10:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Freakin Zeitler is 35 years old. He played in leather helmets for crying out loud....  Now Becton, on the other hand, is only 25

Absent big 3 deals and/or a Burrow reatructure, we cannot go big at both G spots. We could go big at one spot and moderate at the other. If we go big on Becton, who is LG? 

On the other hand, if we go big at LG (Jenkins), we can sign a moderately priced vet at RG who is still a Cappa upgrade. 

I'll take Jenkins + Zeitler/Scherff over Becton + ???.

Ideally, Jenkins + Becton would be my preference. But Zeitler/Scherff buys us a year or two to draft a good/young/cheap RG for the future. I don't see us investing big money at both G spits long term.

PFF grades: 

Player, Snaps, Overall, Pass Pro, Run block
Zeitler: 1,047; 86.8, 71.8, 87.2 
Becton: 903, 75.2, 63.6, 74.7 
Jenkins: 738, 75.4, 75.8, 74.3 
Scherff: 1,013; 64.7, 74.5, 57.3

If we fix both G spots, we don't have any pressing needs on O. Though I would not be upset with a stud TE (Warren, Loveland), a decent one (Ferguson), a stud/good RB (Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, Simpson), a good WR3 (Tez Johnson, Nash, the kid for Iowa State or TCU), or some OL depth, we do not NEED it. 

DT who can rush the passer, DE, a S and we go from there.

[Sled21]

(03-12-2025, 01:53 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Absent big 3 deals and/or a Burrow reatructure, we cannot go big at both G spots. We could go big at one spot and moderate at the other. If we go big on Becton, who is LG? 

On the other hand, if we go big at LG (Jenkins), we can sign a moderately priced vet at RG who is still a Cappa upgrade. 

I'll take Jenkins + Zeitler/Scherff over Becton + ???.

Ideally, Jenkins + Becton would be my preference. But Zeitler/Scherff buys us a year or two to draft a good/young/cheap RG for the future. I don't see us investing big money at both G spits long term.

PFF grades: 

Player, Snaps, Overall, Pass Pro, Run block
Zeitler: 1,047; 86.8, 71.8, 87.2 
Becton: 903, 75.2, 63.6, 74.7 
Jenkins: 738, 75.4, 75.8, 74.3 
Scherff: 1,013; 64.7, 74.5, 57.3

If we fix both G spots, we don't have any pressing needs on O. Though I would not be upset with a stud TE (Warren, Loveland), a decent one (Ferguson), a stud/good RB (Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, Simpson), a good WR3 (Tez Johnson, Nash, the kid for Iowa State or TCU), or some OL depth, we do not NEED it. 

DT who can rush the passer, DE, a S and we go from there.

I think we can get at least 1 starting guard in the draft. In all reality, DE and OG are our only huge needs, and we've already signed the Run Stopping DT. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 10:39 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Freakin Zeitler is 35 years old. He played in leather helmets for crying out loud....  Now Becton, on the other hand, is only 25

Yeah, not against Zeit, but would prefer younger Guards for sure. Hernandez, Jenkins, Becton etc.

Scherff is another older one. I do like that both Zeit and Scherff stay healthy though so I am not against either one of them.

[Luvnit2]

(03-12-2025, 11:08 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Tackle is different than Guard. But yes...Zeitler will have risk of decline soon. Prefer Becton or Jenkins.

As I said, Zeitler is not my first choice. However if he would sign for say 1 year at 3 miilion or less with no guaranteed money, we could still go after Jenkins or Becton. Then draft Zeitler's replacement in round of the draft. The rookie could learn and compete against a very good vet.

[Housh]

Slayton is so bad at everything else but run defense it’s basically gonna be a dead giveaway when he’s in


If i were a team id pass every play Slayton was in. Hes almost horrible at everything else a DT does

[THE PISTONS]

(03-12-2025, 03:53 PM)Housh Wrote: Slayton is so bad at everything else but run defense it’s basically gonna be a dead giveaway when he’s in


If i were a team id pass every play Slayton was in. Hes almost horrible at everything else a DT does

PFF ranked him bad at run defense too.

He had a lot of missed tackles.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-12-2025, 03:52 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: As I said, Zeitler is not my first choice. However if he would sign for say 1 year at 3 miilion or less with no guaranteed money, we could still go after Jenkins or Becton. Then draft Zeitler's replacement in round of the draft. The rookie could learn and compete against a very good vet.

I doubt he'd sign that low. He made $6 million last year.

[Frank Booth]

(03-12-2025, 03:57 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: PFF ranked him bad at run defense too.

He had a lot of missed tackles.

hard for anyone to defend this pick up. He cannot be the starter if theyre being serious

wait, I know how people will defend it. He's cheap with no dead money

hooray!

[*pally*]

When asked what he thinks his role will be here in Cincinnati, he responded that he was pretty sure it was to stop the run. At least he got that memo

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 05:13 PM)pally Wrote: When asked what he thinks his role will be here in Cincinnati, he responded that he was pretty sure it was to stop the run.  At least he got that memo

Well, he better perform, or Jackson and Jenkins will be coming after his spot.