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(03-17-2025, 02:54 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I also have that feeling.
Tyler Booker, Donovan Jackson, Tate Ratledge, or Dylan Fairchild.
I think they should get a Guard even if they add one in FA, as Volson is in contract year anyway and not worth a damn.
Ford may be ok in a pinch but not someone I would go into the season planning to hand a starting spot to.
I had been hoping Ratledge fell to us in the third. I don’t see that happening anymore. 49 feels a bit rich for him but that may be what it takes, or a bit of a trade back in 2 and get an extra 4 or 5. I doubt Jackson is there at 49 and I don’t see them trading up. I don’t see them going booker 1, but maybe. Need pass rush desperately too.
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As I’m digging through I keep coming across OL draft prospects that look like they could make solid pros.
I wouldn’t mind waiting to see what happens in the draft. And if that doesn’t pan out seeing what happens on cut down day.
We should also be an ideal destination for a solid old vet willing to take a low contract looking for a chance to win.
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(03-17-2025, 02:54 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I also have that feeling.
Tyler Booker, Donovan Jackson, Tate Ratledge, or Dylan Fairchild.
I think they should get a Guard even if they add one in FA, as Volson is in contract year anyway and not worth a damn.
Ford may be ok in a pinch but not someone I would go into the season planning to hand a starting spot to.
Ratledge is moving up after the combine but i don't really see anything pre-mid 2nd round currently. Certainly in the Bengals wheelhouse. I'd prefer one of the safeties in rd 1 and Ratledge in rd 2.
I did see a couple mocks where they had Booker going Bengals in rd 1.
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(03-17-2025, 05:27 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: As I’m digging through I keep coming across OL draft prospects that look like they could make solid pros.
I wouldn’t mind waiting to see what happens in the draft. And if that doesn’t pan out seeing what happens on cut down day.
We should also be an ideal destination for a solid old vet willing to take a low contract looking for a chance to win.
I would say this is 100% Scherff
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(03-17-2025, 05:27 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Ratledge is moving up after the combine but i don't really see anything pre-mid 2nd round currently. Certainly in the Bengals wheelhouse. I'd prefer one of the safeties in rd 1 and Ratledge in rd 2.
I did see a couple mocks where they had Booker going Bengals in rd 1.
The OL is not a highly rated group in 2025 draft. There are few OT's with true first round grades. Even the best Campbell may be better suited to be a guard. Same for Membou and Banks.
Booker seems to be the concensus OG ready to start immediately. Bengals will have a tough call. I just don't see how they can afford to go offense with 1st pick. For fun I have been doing lots of mocks, at times Warren slips to #17 and I have to force myself to trade down with hopes of getting Grant, Nolan or Green and another 2nd round.
Ratledge has been going a lot in top 45 picks so he won't be an option for us if that hold true.
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Jenkins was always a risk anyway. As I heard someone say today; it's telling that Ben Johnson prioritized building out the Bears interior o-line and still wanted no part of Jenkins.
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(03-17-2025, 05:35 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The OL is not a highly rated group in 2025 draft. There are few OT's with true first round grades. Even the best Campbell may be better suited to be a guard. Same for Membou and Banks.
Booker seems to be the concensus OG ready to start immediately. Bengals will have a tough call. I just don't see how they can afford to go offense with 1st pick. For fun I have been doing lots of mocks, at times Warren slips to #17 and I have to force myself to trade down with hopes of getting Grant, Nolan or Green and another 2nd round.
Ratledge has been going a lot in top 45 picks so he won't be an option for us if that hold true.
A lot of variables. That's what makes it fun, the anticipation.
I keep getting drawn back in...
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(03-17-2025, 05:38 PM)samhain Wrote: Jenkins was always a risk anyway. As I heard someone say today; it's telling that Ben Johnson prioritized building out the Bears interior o-line and still wanted no part of Jenkins.
Jenkins has a lot of injuries. Nothing major but he misses a few games every year to injuries. Tee Higgins thinks Jenkins is injured too much.
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(03-17-2025, 05:27 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Ratledge is moving up after the combine but i don't really see anything pre-mid 2nd round currently. Certainly in the Bengals wheelhouse. I'd prefer one of the safeties in rd 1 and Ratledge in rd 2.
I did see a couple mocks where they had Booker going Bengals in rd 1.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply all of them as Rd 1 options.
Booker, maybe Jackson for Rd 1.
Jackson, maybe Ratledge for Rd 2.
Ratledge, maybe Fairchild for Rd 3.
Bengals need a Guard regardless though.
People thought it couldn't get worse than Cappa and Volson, but Volson and Ford definitely could be worse.
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(03-17-2025, 05:38 PM)samhain Wrote: Jenkins was always a risk anyway. As I heard someone say today; it's telling that Ben Johnson prioritized building out the Bears interior o-line and still wanted no part of Jenkins.
(03-17-2025, 05:49 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Jenkins has a lot of injuries. Nothing major but he misses a few games every year to injuries. Tee Higgins thinks Jenkins is injured too much.
These were definitely my concerns with Teven Jenkins. Might of been a good thing to pass on him and grab one of these other Guards
that are available or later on after cuts. We will see how this is handled, wouldn't surprise me we sign a Guard or two now that the Ja'Marr
and Tee deals are done.
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Denher is just writing an opinion piece. He has no info. Just guessing based on the guy not being signed & Chicago letting him go.
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Am I hearing this right? Teams are passing on Jenkins and people in here are pissing and moaning because the "we don't want to win" Bengals are not pursuing him?
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Not a big fan of either GA G prospect. Watched them closely vs ND and was not impressed. Pass on both.
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We were 8th in points per drive and 6th in TDs per drive last year. That is very good, but not elite.
In the 4th quarter? Minus 28 point differential and 15th in points per drive. When it mattered most, we were mediocre.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44287720/nfl-contract-bengals-jamarr-chase-tee-higgins-joe-burrow
The reason why is our guards sucked. Until that gets fixed, we won't improve much. Right now, it is not fixed.
Jenkins, Wil Hernandez (coming off a knee injury), and Scherff are the best/only starting options out there. Maybe Risner. The latter 3 all played exclusively at RG last year, Jenkins at LG.
If we want to fill both guard spots in FA, he is must have.
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The argument being made about Jenkins can literally be made for every FA still on the board:
1) Their previous team let them walk.
2) Everyone else has passed this far.
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(03-17-2025, 11:43 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We were 8th in points per drive and 6th in TDs per drive last year. That is very good, but not elite.
In the 4th quarter? Minus 28 point differential and 15th in points per drive. When it mattered most, we were mediocre.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44287720/nfl-contract-bengals-jamarr-chase-tee-higgins-joe-burrow
The reason why is our guards sucked. Until that gets fixed, we won't improve much. Right now, it is not fixed.
Jenkins, Wil Hernandez (coming off a knee injury), and Scherff are the best/only starting options out there. Maybe Risner. The latter 3 all played exclusively at RG last year, Jenkins at LG.
If we want to fill both guard spots in FA, he is must have.
I ain't saying you're wrong Ike, by why are teams treating Jenkins like he has the plague. His numbers look pretty good, is it the injuries, attitude or asking way too much?
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(03-18-2025, 12:02 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I ain't saying you're wrong Ike, by why are teams treating Jenkins like he has the plague. His numbers look pretty good, is it the injuries, attitude or asking way too much?
Seattle had him in for a visit, how is that treating him like he has the plague? Has Risner had one? Hernandez? Scherff? Smith? Campbell?
Are those guys being treated like they have the plague?
I have no earthly idea why some guys have not signed yet. The obvious thing with Jenkins is his injury history and missing games. Maybe the asking price is too high.
Everyone does not sign in the first 3-4 days. Plenty of guys take longer every year. Some have drier markets than they they thought and choose to wait instead of signing a discounted deal early.
Sometimes teams wait until after the draft to make final decisions & commit resources. They thought they were gonna get a DE, but it did not happen, so now let's pay Smith, etc. Or maybe they draftca stud at a spot and release a vet to save $$ as a result, and splash that cash savings at a different spot.
For whatever reason, the G market has moved slower than other spots. Maybe the guy at the top has not made a decision yet, and when he does, dominos will fall.
I guess I just object to the chatacterization, so an oushing back on it a bit. For this player, and all the remaining FA's.
But the most obvious & common explanation is the player was hoping for more $$ than is being offered.
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I'm wondering if the hesitation in signing a guard has anything to do with the new coaching staff thinking that Karras can be one of the starting guards and Lee be the starting center. Obviously, they still need another starting guard in that case.
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(03-18-2025, 11:41 AM)dxdtdemon Wrote: I'm wondering if the hesitation in signing a guard has anything to do with the new coaching staff thinking that Karras can be one of the starting guards and Lee be the starting center. Obviously, they still need another starting guard in that case.
That's possible if they like the kid, but you're right that they still need another starter. The optics look wild that they're looking at moving a center and the 3rd tackle over to fix guard if that's the case. I'm fine with one competition spot but the other spot needs to have somebody established since the goal is to win this year
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