"...but at least it'll be fun to watch"

[kalibengal]

(03-18-2025, 03:45 PM)bengalsboy Wrote: Maybe But the Chargers,did not have a DE,like Trey Hendrickson.Get some defensive players,in the draft.And,the defense can get better.

The Chargers did have some good Defenders back in that time
Fred Dean was a modern day speed rusher at 235#
Louie Kelcher was a big run stuffing DT that could collapse the pocket and Gary "big hands " johnson was very good 3 t type of DT
DE Leroy jones wasnt too shabby either and was about 6'-7 "... but for one reason or another they couldnt make it to SB  

[SunsetBengal]

(03-19-2025, 05:32 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: The Bengals are earily similar to the Colts with Manning.

I would say the big difference is that Burrow actually beat Mahomes a few times early in his career.
And Burrow has had more injuries as well.

But the overall team makeup is quite similar.

It took Manning a long time to win it all. 
His defense was never good enough--until it was, and they won a championship.

And here, all this time I thought that it was them getting Vinatieri that put them over the top..

[Soonerpeace]

(03-19-2025, 05:23 PM)samhain Wrote: I really hope that's not the belief in-house.  Trey and some guys ain't gonna do it.  They need at least one more guy that can get pressure, either on the edge or up the middle.  

Slaton is a mountain and B J is B J. They’ve got Jenkins and Jackson. They may go round 3. Probably going G then LB.

[Bengalstripes9]

(03-19-2025, 05:46 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Manning did not deal with pressure well. Burrow definitely has him beat in that regard.

(03-19-2025, 06:11 PM)samhain Wrote: Warren wears 44.  Just like Manning's TE did.  Just saying.

Also, I think Manning had better lines most of the time.  Maybe not always loaded with superstars, but played well as a unit.  Also had a hellacious running back that was a star in his own right.

There are certainly differences. But they are investing in similar position groups. I think the colts had a lesser known back when they won the Super Bowl. Addai was a smaller back.

Burrow is a better qb in my opinion as well. Moves much better in the pocket and runs better.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-19-2025, 05:31 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Why do you even watch regular season games then? Seriously, some of you guys take something that is supposed to be fun and make it the most miserable thing you act like you're forced to do. If it's that miserable for you, why do it? I'll never understand it.

I don't watch all of them. Usually just ones I think will be good matchups.
I also typically stop watching once the Bengals get eliminated from playoffs.

Watching a winning team is fun for me.
It's not fun to watch a continually losing team.
That's why I stop when if/when it gets to that point.


So, to your point, I do something that is fun to me and don't do it when it's not.

[sandwedge]

(03-18-2025, 12:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I don't think relying on the same players will yield drastically different results. This is a team that missed the playoffs 2 years in a row.

Definitely needs more talent infusion be it from the draft or free agency.

Part of my optimism for a better D this year is:
1) Early last season our DL was hit hard by the injury bug, Rankins, Hill, Jackson and Jenkins
2) Dax and Turner go down, season ending injuries
3) Wilson goes on IR
4) A lot of Rookies were getting a lot playing time, they showed they were rookies, but played well down the stretch
5) Slaton is being way underrated on here. Led the league for DTs for run stopping percentage
6) We will add some very good talent in the draft.

I believe this D will end up better than last year

[Sled21]

(03-19-2025, 11:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I don't watch all of them. Usually just ones I think will be good matchups.
I also typically stop watching once the Bengals get eliminated from playoffs.

Watching a winning team is fun for me.
It's not fun to watch a continually losing team.
That's why I stop when if/when it gets to that point.


So, to your point, I do something that is fun to me and don't do it when it's not.

So sounds like a definition Band Wagon fan... that's fine, I choose to be a fan of our team win or lose. (And of course it's more fun to win) Personally, I don't watch a whole lot of sports, I'd rather be out doing something myself. But the wife knows not to schedule anything or bother me during a Bengals game. I figure I only get 17 per year, unless we make the playoffs, I'm not missing any of them.

[*ochocincos*]

(Yesterday, 09:30 AM)Sled21 Wrote: So sounds like a definition Band Wagon fan... that's fine, I choose to be a fan of our team win or lose. (And of course it's more fun to win) Personally, I don't watch a whole lot of sports, I'd rather be out doing something myself. But the wife knows not to schedule anything or bother me during a Bengals game. I figure I only get 17 per year, unless we make the playoffs, I'm not missing any of them.

I would argue the difference with a band wagon fan is a BWF decides to root for whatever team is winning.
I haven't changed my allegiance, just sometimes choose not to invest time watching the team if I'm not entertained.

I grew up in Cincy and started watching them in 2005, been rooting for them ever since.
Just because I don't watch some games doesn't mean I don't root for them when the season starts anew.

You say you don't watch much sports, but I watch hockey, baseball, and tennis along with Bengals football.
I grew up playing hockey.
Trying to watch every game of every team I'm a fan of would be way too time-consuming.
Plus I do other things aside from watching sports.

It's ok though.
You do what you wanna do, I'll do what I want to.
I don't criticize you for what or how you choose to support the Bengals, so don't do it to me.

[THE PISTONS]

(Yesterday, 12:11 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Part of my optimism for a better D this year is:
1) Early last season our DL was hit hard by the injury bug, Rankins, Hill, Jackson and Jenkins
2) Dax and Turner go down, season ending injuries
3) Wilson goes on IR
4) A lot of Rookies were getting a lot playing time, they showed they were rookies, but played well down the stretch
5) Slaton is being way underrated on here. Led the league for DTs for run stopping percentage
6) We will add some very good talent in the draft.

I believe this D will end up better than last year

The Dax injury hurt a lot.

Wilson went on IR when the team was playing well on defense at the end of the year.

You're overrating Slaton.

Hopefully we have better health, but likely some guys will be injured that we don't expect. Need depth.

[Joelist]

Slaton led the league in run stopping percentage and the GB run defense was over a yard better in YPC when he was in. He gives nothing in pass rush though. Shades of Peko.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 12:06 PM)Joelist Wrote: Slaton led the league in run stopping percentage and the GB run defense was over a yard better in YPC when he was in. He gives nothing in pass rush though. Shades of Peko.

He didn't actually lead the league. I posted his numbers in another thread. 

For qualifiers at 50% of max snaps or more (80 DL), he was (T) for 15th in %. He was just a tick below BJ Hill. Hill did play 40 more run snaps though. 

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 09:41 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I would argue the difference with a band wagon fan is a BWF decides to root for whatever team is winning.
I haven't changed my allegiance, just sometimes choose not to invest time watching the team if I'm not entertained.

I grew up in Cincy and started watching them in 2005, been rooting for them ever since.
Just because I don't watch some games doesn't mean I don't root for them when the season starts anew.

You say you don't watch much sports, but I watch hockey, baseball, and tennis along with Bengals football.
I grew up playing hockey.
Trying to watch every game of every team I'm a fan of would be way too time-consuming.
Plus I do other things aside from watching sports.

It's ok though.
You do what you wanna do, I'll do what I want to.
I don't criticize you for what or how you choose to support the Bengals, so don't do it to me.

Fair enough

[BengalYankee]

(03-18-2025, 12:13 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's never fun to watch the Bengals lose.  

I can think of a game most Bengal fans[90%] wanted to lose. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 12:11 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Part of my optimism for a better D this year is:
1) Early last season our DL was hit hard by the injury bug, Rankins, Hill, Jackson and Jenkins
2) Dax and Turner go down, season ending injuries
3) Wilson goes on IR
4) A lot of Rookies were getting a lot playing time, they showed they were rookies, but played well down the stretch
5) Slaton is being way underrated on here. Led the league for DTs for run stopping percentage
6) We will add some very good talent in the draft.

I believe this D will end up better than last year

All good points. Particularly with our vets going down after playing well and the rookies getting so much experience.

This bodes well for the new coaches if they are decent. I also believe this D will end up being better than last year. Kris Jenkins, McKinnley
should really grow in their second season, same with Fig Newton. I like what I saw from Dax at boundary Corner last season before getting 
injured and he actually is even more comfortable at his natural position in the Slot with Hilton leaving. DJ Turner played well late last season
before going down as well. Hope the coaches can get CTB back to playing how he was, he is really athletic and plays physical.

CTB is actually a dark horse to play FS next to Battle if we don't draft a Safety IMO. Stone should be gone or at least depth at most.

[XsandOs]

(03-18-2025, 03:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The Bengals are now the Dan Fouts era Chargers.

I think at this moment, that distinction belongs to Allen and Bills.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(7 hours ago)XsandOs Wrote: I think at this moment, that distinction belongs to Allen and Bills.

Fouts wishes he had Allen's career.
Fouts finished 2 games above .500 and only made the playoffs in 4 seasons out of his 15, going 3-4.
Allen is currently 42 games above .500, has made the playoffs 6 straight seasons, and won at least 1 playoff game in each of the last 5 seasons.

The Bills defense just can't stop specifically just the Chiefs in the playoffs (0-4) to prevent them from advancing further.

[Frank Booth]

(7 hours ago)XsandOs Wrote: I think at this moment, that distinction belongs to Allen and Bills.

No that’s cincy

[SunsetBengal]

(7 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: No that’s cincy

Spending all of that money on receivers, without significantly upgrading the interior OL or Defense is kinda like putting 200# worth of ornaments on the Charlie Brown Christmas tree and hoping that it makes it through the season.

[XsandOs]

(7 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: No that’s cincy

No that's not. Go fly a kite!

[XsandOs]

(7 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Fouts wishes he had Allen's career.
Fouts finished 2 games above .500 and only made the playoffs in 4 seasons out of his 15, going 3-4.
Allen is currently 42 games above .500, has made the playoffs 6 straight seasons, and won at least 1 playoff game in each of the last 5 seasons.

The Bills defense just can't stop specifically just the Chiefs in the playoffs (0-4) to prevent them from advancing further.

Fouts and Chargers - in a 3 year window, won 33 games in the regular season, but lost in AFC title games twice.

It's interesting that the Allen Bills are one tier behind the Kelly Bills. Almost similar to the McNab Eagles, without the lone SB appearance. 

As related to Burrow Bengals, my concern is being viewed similar to Ryan Falcons.