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(03-14-2025, 05:38 PM)pally Wrote: oops
Glad we didn't bring in Larry O after this.
Plus BJ Hill significantly outplayed him after Larry O left here. We got the much better DT. 
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(03-14-2025, 05:40 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Glad we didn't bring in Larry O after this.
Plus BJ Hill significantly outplayed him after Larry O left here. We got the much better DT.
I just saw this info. Does that mean these 2 add ons for the Bills may lose strength in 2025 since they were juicing?
Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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(03-14-2025, 05:42 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I just saw this info. Does that mean these 2 add ons for the Bills may lose strength in 2025 since they were juicing?
Yep. Bad deal for the Bills.
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Bills had to know (hopefully) but that is comedy given I'm sure their fans didn't, and if it was the Bengals we'd be all over the FO for this.
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(03-14-2025, 05:38 PM)pally Wrote: oops
Something something AFC rigged for the Chiefs.
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(03-14-2025, 06:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: Bills had to know (hopefully) but that is comedy given I'm sure their fans didn't, and if it was the Bengals we'd be all over the FO for this.
Bills knew about both. Ogunjobi they found out only after they came to a financial agreement, but before he signed, and they decided to go ahead with the signing anyway because of the dearth of DTs left in free agency. Hoecht they knew about before free agency.
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(03-14-2025, 08:30 PM)Nepa Wrote: Bills knew about both. Ogunjobi they found out only after they came to a financial agreement, but before he signed, and they decided to go ahead with the signing anyway because of the dearth of DTs left in free agency. Hoecht they knew about before free agency.
Not at all calling you a liar, but how do you know?
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(03-14-2025, 09:18 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Not at all calling you a liar, but how do you know?
Here's the source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44253867/bills-additions-larry-ogunjobi-michael-hoecht-suspended-6-games-peds
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I think Scherff would be a good fit cheaper than Jenkins and has been very solid. As the roster is currently constructed we’d probably need two rookies to have immediate impacts at guard and defensive line. We need to add a quality starter we can’t rely on rookies. If there’s an injury at tackle Ford is are swing tackle. We only have 6 picks we need 2 guards, DE , DT , linebacker and safety.
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I think we see Chase and Tee contracts soon. I don’t think we’re going to go get a guard. I think they roll with Volson and add a guard in round 2. DE round 1, g round 2, LB round 3, def round 4-6.
I think we enter the year with the exact same offense as last year, just more expensive and a rookie guard.
I don’t see any more big signings coming on D. Maybe a player/contract to to the level of what Stone (barf) was.
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In an ideal scenario.
A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell. A guy who can move inside/out. Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range. Another leader on defense. Older, but can also contribute.
It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh. It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.
FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range. Hopefully less.
Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.
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(03-15-2025, 10:15 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an ideal scenario.
A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell. A guy who can move inside/out. Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range. Another leader on defense. Older, but can also contribute.
It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh. It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.
FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range. Hopefully less.
Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.
No you're right, this is who we should be. I think the WRs inking deals to free up 2025M allows them to take care of Trey. The timing is critical that we look like a team that will pat you for doing your job well even if you're old.
Then we're back to the "Burrow tax" (really a discount) that Gesicki mentioned. We want a Campbell or Smith to see themselves as the missing piece that can chase a ring in Cincy. Like Riley Rieff started and we assumed we would tap into a pool of serviceable ring chasers.
If Jenkins goes to Seattle there are only 3 reasonable upgrade guards but getting one is a huge priority. Then I'm happy with any ring chasing DL so yeah Campbell's versatility especially as the 3rd down UT would be huge. You could take an Edge rusher early even if they are situational. Really salvages the offseason. Depending on how low the 1st year base numbers fir the WRs are and if Burrow restructures (though Tobin sounded against it) they should be able to do most of what you have.
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Chidobe Awuzie was released today
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(03-15-2025, 10:15 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an ideal scenario.
A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell. A guy who can move inside/out. Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range. Another leader on defense. Older, but can also contribute.
It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh. It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.
FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range. Hopefully less.
Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.
I would be down with all of this Bengalbug, I just don't see the Bengals signing older players like that.
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Wonder how cooked Chido is. The Titans just released him. Might not be bad to have a steady veteran around the young fellas.
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(03-15-2025, 10:15 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an ideal scenario.
A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell. A guy who can move inside/out. Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range. Another leader on defense. Older, but can also contribute.
It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh. It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.
FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range. Hopefully less.
Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.
I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.
Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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(03-15-2025, 08:39 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I think Scherff would be a good fit cheaper than Jenkins and has been very solid. As the roster is currently constructed we’d probably need two rookies to have immediate impacts at guard and defensive line. We need to add a quality starter we can’t rely on rookies. If there’s an injury at tackle Ford is are swing tackle. We only have 6 picks we need 2 guards, DE , DT , linebacker and safety.
I like Jenkins and wouldnt mind having him on the team but Im not sure you can rely on him either. The guy gets injured a lot. Given his background I dont have any problem with the Bengals not giving him a large contract with a bunch of guarantees. I wouldnt pay him over 10 million per season. If he is looking for much more than that, forget about it with his injury history
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