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(03-15-2025, 07:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.
Campbell would be a good addition to the defense just as Za'Darius Smith would be. Im just not sure we would have room for either one of them on our roster considering all the guys we already have signed plus the likelihood we draft a couple more guys for the defensive line.
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(03-15-2025, 10:38 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Campbell would be a good addition to the defense just as Za'Darius Smith would be. Im just not sure we would have room for either one of them on our roster considering all the guys we already have signed plus the likelihood we draft a couple more guys for the defensive line.
Campbell would potentially be the 2nd best DL on the team, if Trey is here.
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(03-15-2025, 07:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.
Me, too. However, assuming we only keep 5 DTs: Hill, Slaton, Jenkins, + Jackson make 4. I think #5 is a draft pick.
DE us thinner. Trey + Ossai + Murphy is 3. Sample & Johnson are both signed. I'd say one of those guys is #5. #4 is probably a pick.
That said, we've kept 11 DL before. And Campbell can certainly play inside out. Though he was more of a DT, run stuffer last year.
Ossai had 5 last year, he should do better easily with more snaps. Hill should get 4+.
It is a pretty good DT/DE draft.
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(03-15-2025, 10:56 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Me, too. However, assuming we only keep 5 DTs: Hill, Slaton, Jenkins, + Jackson make 4. I think #5 is a draft pick.
DE us thinner. Trey + Ossai + Murphy is 3. Sample & Johnson are both signed. I'd say one of those guys is #5. #4 is probably a pick.
That said, we've kept 11 DL before. And Campbell can certainly play inside out. Though he was more of a DT, run stuffer last year.
Ossai had 5 last year, he should do better easily with more snaps. Hill should get 4+.
It is a pretty good DT/DE draft.
It’s funny when people try to justify not bringing a player in because of depth/etc. it was “we don’t need reciever because WR room is so deep”( last year. This year DL; for the bengals is weak. You make room for a guy like him
The entire reason you sign quality veterans is to not rely on the draft at all
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Re-signing Hill ends any discussion in a second DT signing. This draft is deep and I already wanted to double dip on either tackle or end.
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IF these extensions for Chase and Higgins happen, we'll have $125 million in 3 offensive players.
That's new ground in the NFL by far.
It's going to put a premium on drafting.
What are your thoughts on team building?
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My take on the 800-pound gorilla in the room
Maybe I’m being a negative-Nancy here but …
Let’s say we pay all this money to keep Trey and Tee and break the bank on Chase. Awesome. They deserve it. I hope we keep them all!
That said, some on this board will consider these extensions as the be-all-end-all and label this as a successful off-season.
Problem. We had all 3 last year….lol
Unless and until we make some BIG splashes on D…. why would it make sense to expect any discernible change in our record….let alone, an increase in our chance of getting to the SB?
Also, keep in mind, JB, Chase and Trey — all had their best seasons. So at the very least, we “need” them to repeat this, just to hope we get in the playoffs! Clearly it wasn’t enough last year. That alone is a big ask as all 3 lit it up.
Anyone else concerned that our desperate need for a revamped D is not on the priority list?
JB had a prolific season with a mediocre OLINE so as much as I’d love to see them address too, he managed just fine. Yes, not exactly wise to risk his head getting ripped off but there is only so much loot Mikey will spend as we know.
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It is likely a good thing as long as the salary cap continues to increase. If it doesn't increase or actually goes down then things get a lot trickier. I believe that happened in the COVID years but otherwise is pretty much unheard of.
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It’s good to have valuable assets. These are likely the best 3 we have on the team (when you factor in age).
You can always trade an asset for similar value.
Draft and develop better so in 2-3 years, maybe you have the option of flipping a Higgins (or Chase??) for someone of equal value.
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The Bengals would have the highest paid offense in the NFL. Right now they are #2. They need to play like it. There is absolutely no excuses if they go into the season and have a game like New England where they score just 10 points and we miss the playoffs because of it. No excuse for Burrow to fumble the ball and have it returned for a TD and we lose the game. Dont count on your #22 paid defense to win games for you. These guys on offense want to reset the market and be paid so much more disproportional to the defense? Offense needs to carry this team every game. Dont blame the defense
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Although this horse has been dead for a while, kicked, mutilated and set on fire; however, since buyer's remorse threads will be inevitable - maybe we can limit it to this one.
My thoughts are that those who can - do. We have three players who are among the best in their positions, and we can negotiate extensions with them by NFL rules, so we did.
I feel strongly that in today's NFL, any Team who has a Burrow, Chase and Tee level of players, will pay to keep them.
Eagles did. Albeit, it occurred when price tags were lower.
Interestingly, the RB position is coming back into focus.....
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They have to hit on the draft.
That’s why a shake up in the scout department would have better signaled they understood this as key to the plan. Hiring an additional scout or two.
They say this is the big SB winners mistake too. Trying to hold on to the team too long. Patriots seemed to have mastered the balance.
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I guess they're going to score over 40 points per game and the defense is going to be somewhat irrelevant.
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Sorry but this IS a limited Free Agent class for improving pass rush. We signed a big NT who anchors well and that was a major need. We will sign at least one starting caliber Guard. I expect we'll go DL heavy early in the draft and maybe Guard as early as Rd 2.
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The year we made the SB, they were on rookie deals and probably counted $25-30 million against the cap.
I think we have to pay them and keep them. I'm skeptical that they can build a SB caliber team around them.
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(03-16-2025, 02:33 PM)Joelist Wrote: Sorry but this IS a limited Free Agent class for improving pass rush. We signed a big NT who anchors well and that was a major need. We will sign at least one starting caliber Guard. I expect we'll go DL heavy early in the draft and maybe Guard as early as Rd 2.
I do agree on DE. Wasn't really interested in most. Chase Young or Bosa would be decent. Major risk on Bosa.
A lot of guards got massively overpaid.
That said, there are guys who are upgrades at any position.
We likely need a veteran S and CB too.
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The offense was great, minus the oline, so pay them.
The defense was trash, so clean house.
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I think it’s simple. We’ve been bitching about coaching for years. Some coaching changes have been made so we’re about to find out if it was a coaching issue or a personnel issue (on defense)
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(03-16-2025, 02:33 PM)Joelist Wrote: Sorry but this IS a limited Free Agent class for improving pass rush. We signed a big NT who anchors well and that was a major need. We will sign at least one starting caliber Guard. I expect we'll go DL heavy early in the draft and maybe Guard as early as Rd 2.
Before Slater signing, I felt the same.
Now, I think defense skill positions who can contribute this season - CB, S, LB. A 1-tech to fill Tufele's spot in the latter rounds.
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