Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off

[J24]

(5 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: It is not ludacris all you have to do is go back to st. Louis with ownership under Kroenke after he gained control within 3 years they were lining up leaving to larger market.. totally realistic could hapoen here, to think otherwise would be ludacris..

 LA is 2nd biggest market in the US there are no Markets close to to that magnitude in the United States.  Kroenke only moved to LA because it was a white whale of a market. If LA wasn't available he would have stayed in St.louis.

There is no current market that is a substantial improvement over Cincinnati either do to size or for cost reasons.  Then when you add the legal hoop that an ownership group would have go through(do to the Browns law in Ohio) + a relocation fee + a likley billion dollar settlement with Cincinnati.(see St.louis) I just don't see anyone willing doing that outside of Bezos, Musk, or the Saudi royal family.

[Essex Johnson]

(4 hours ago)J24 Wrote:  LA is 2nd biggest market in the US there are no Markets close to to that magnitude in the United States.  Kroenke only moved to LA because it was a white whale of a market. If LA wasn't available he would have stayed in St.louis.

There is no current market that is a substantial improvement over Cincinnati either do to size or for cost reasons.  Then when you add the legal hoop that an ownership group would have go through(do to the Browns law in Ohio) + a relocation fee + a likley billion dollar settlement with Cincinnati.(see St.louis) I just don't see anyone willing doing that outside of Bezos, Musk, or the Saudi royal family.

Of course he moved to larger market but, had friends in st louis, he  they knew he was taking them to any better market shortly after buying them..

[Sled21]

(4 hours ago)J24 Wrote:  LA is 2nd biggest market in the US there are no Markets close to to that magnitude in the United States.  Kroenke only moved to LA because it was a white whale of a market. If LA wasn't available he would have stayed in St.louis.

There is no current market that is a substantial improvement over Cincinnati either do to size or for cost reasons.  Then when you add the legal hoop that an ownership group would have go through(do to the Browns law in Ohio) + a relocation fee + a likley billion dollar settlement with Cincinnati.(see St.louis) I just don't see anyone willing doing that outside of Bezos, Musk, or the Saudi royal family.

Yeah, that's what they thought in St. Louis, Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston too.... yet their teams all packed up and moved to greener pastures. Never say never. And there's San Antonio, the 7th largest city in the nation, just waiting....

[J24]

(3 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: Of course he moved to larger market but, had friends in st louis, he  they knew he was taking them to any better market shortly after buying them..

What market that's available is the equivalent to Los Angeles? What market is a no shit massive upgrade over Cincinnati?

(3 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, that's what they thought in St. Louis, Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston too.... yet their teams all packed up and moved to greener pastures. Never say never. And there's San Antonio, the 7th largest city in the nation, just waiting....

3 of those franchise's moved 30 to 40 years ago. 

There isn't a market like LA available. All the markets that are available are similar to Cincinnati 

San Antonio is 24 ranked Metropolitan area vs Cincinnati who is 30th.  San Antonio is the 31st TV market vs Cincinnati who's 37th. It's not a major difference between markets. Not to mention the Cowboys will make it hard for any team to go 

[Sled21]

(2 hours ago)J24 Wrote: What market that's available is the equivalent to Los Angeles? What market is a no shit massive upgrade over Cincinnati?



3 of those franchise's moved 30 to 40 years ago. 

There isn't a market like LA available. All the markets that are available are similar to Cincinnati 

San Antonio is 24 ranked Metropolitan area vs Cincinnati who is 30th.  San Antonio is the 31st TV market vs Cincinnati who's 37th. It's not a major difference between markets. Not to mention the Cowboys will make it hard for any team to go 

A) Texas loves football B) Half of Texans hate the Cowboys C) Having teams in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio is a much more likely scenario that having teams in Miami, Jacksonville and Tampa Bay, yet there they are. 

[J24]

(1 hour ago)Sled21 Wrote: A) Texas loves football B) Half of Texans hate the Cowboys C) Having teams in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio is a much more likely scenario that having teams in Miami, Jacksonville and Tampa Bay, yet there they are. 

A.) Ohio doesn't? 
B.)If you say so! The Cowboys are the #1 valuable franchise for a reason.
C ) what does this have to do with anything?

What makes Cincinnati such an awful market that you would  assume that a new owner would automatically move the franchise; instead of staying in Cincinnati?