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Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off
#81
(5 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: And Bengal's fans used to be Browns fans.

SA is 200 miles away from Dallas. Imma go out on a limb and say enough people in a Metro area about twice the size of Cincy would start to support their home team. 


It's silly and Imma drop out. You guys roll with The Bengals have no other Options. 

the cowboys are a sacred nfl team that prints money hand over fist just to remind you. I dont think they want to stop that




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#82
(5 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: the cowboys are a sacred nfl team that prints money hand over fist just to remind you. I dont think they want to stop that

I'm sure the rest of the NFL's owners' motivation is to ensure Dallas stays the most lucrative franchise in the league. 
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#83
(5 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: I'm sure the rest of the NFL's owners' motivation is to ensure Dallas stays the most lucrative franchise in the league. 

why disrupt a cash cow?




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(5 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: And Bengal's fans used to be Browns fans.

SA is 200 miles away from Dallas. Imma go out on a limb and say enough people in a Metro area about twice the size of Cincy would start to support their home team. 


It's silly and Imma drop out. You guys roll with The Bengals have no other Options. 

I'm sure there will eventually be a team in San Antonio but I doubt it would be the Bengals ownership. Their not going to want to go through a bunch of hoops just to go to the 37th TV market and 24th metro area.


Its a mute point because the City and the team will eventually get a deal done.
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#85
(6 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: They sure do, and with revenue sharing, I assume they'd prefer to see an NFL team in a large market like San Antonio rather than a small market like Cincy. 

(6 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: theyre all cowboys fans in san antonio

(5 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: And Bengal's fans used to be Browns fans.

SA is 200 miles away from Dallas. Imma go out on a limb and say enough people in a Metro area about twice the size of Cincy would start to support their home team. 

It's silly and Imma drop out. You guys roll with The Bengals have no other Options. 

(5 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: the cowboys are a sacred nfl team that prints money hand over fist just to remind you. I dont think they want to stop that

(5 hours ago)bfine32 Wrote: I'm sure the rest of the NFL's owners' motivation is to ensure Dallas stays the most lucrative franchise in the league. 

(5 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: why disrupt a cash cow?

bfine, I am not saying Bengals have no other options. There are multiple potential options. But are they viable, and ultimately better than Cincy?

Since the discussion is brought to a singular location (Austin/San Antonio), I'll play along. There are hurdles for the Bengals. Relocation fee, building a local fan base, competing with Dallas and now Houston.

Dallas draws from Arkansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico and dominates 85% of Texas. Houston draws from SE Texas. Bengals would be in lower South Texas and water locked below (Mexico does not count).  

Bengals could win a SB, convert Cowboy fans and become profitable. They could afford the half billion dollar relocation fee. They could get a 100% publicly funded stadium deal in Austin/SA. The operative term is "could". 

But the real question is how many years would it take for them to become profitable after the move? Do the Browns have the pockets to withstand that? Do they have the capacity to pay for at least 25% of a $2B+ stadium that would generate the revenue they would want? Would they be willing to borrow from private investors to pay for their part of the new Stadium?

It took the Ravens 5 years after relocating to become profitable. But it was after they won their first SB and they did not have to pay a relocation fee. I don't know the situation with LA and SD. I'm sure LA is now profitable with their SB appearance and win.

And lastly; Bengals have established fan base in Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia. They are profitable, as much as Bengals use the small market excuse. They make money win or lose. 

So why move? Juxtaposition for more State and City money makes sense. A relocation does not - to me.
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Quote: A recent literature review surveyed the past 50 years of stadium construction. The authors found that the promised tangible economic benefits—economic growth, income growth, wage growth, employment growth, and higher tax revenues—do not occur the way that sports teams claim. Often, the only economic benefits occur near the stadium—and fall far short of expectations. State and city governments are subsidizing development within a single neighborhood, with no tangible benefits for the rest of the city or state.

Hamilton County should be asking Katie for the hometown discount for tax payer dollars.

Personally, I wouldn’t give a billionaire a cent of tax payer money to build them a stadium. They can raise their own funds.
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