Chris Simms take on this draft

[Joelist]

Chris Simms has an interesting (and sounds valid) take on this draft:

[Soonerpeace]

(04-30-2025, 07:32 PM)Joelist Wrote: Chris Simms has an interesting (and sounds valid) take on this draft:

There’s a lot of positives here. The bottom line is they needed a DE and that’s where they went. After missing on Murphy pretty much plenty of reason to be skeptical. 

[bonesaw]

Obviously an NFL plant to keep you guys from boycotting.

I want to know what Jeff Hostetler's son thinks about it

[Joelist]

Simms has the bonafides to be a credible opinion here.

[Sled21]

Sorry, I can't listen to him until he learns to pronounce Bengals instead of calling them the Bangles.

[coachmcneil71]

(05-01-2025, 02:17 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Sorry, I can't listen to him until he learns to pronounce Bengals instead of calling them the Bangles.

Well, he walks like an Egyptian, so...

[Joelist]

(05-01-2025, 02:17 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Sorry, I can't listen to him until he learns to pronounce Bengals instead of calling them the Bangles.

Eh. Accents are what accents are...

[Bilbo Saggins]

I remember him absolutely gushing over DJ Turner. If neither he nor Stewart pan out I think that we can reasonably toss him. 

[NUGDUKWE]

(05-01-2025, 09:23 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I remember him absolutely gushing over DJ Turner. If neither he nor Stewart pan out I think that we can reasonably toss him. 

I like DJ Turner. The fact he says he doesn't have any pass rush moves is a positive because we can mold him how we want him is probably reason enough to toss him.

[Stewy]

(05-01-2025, 10:50 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I like DJ Turner. The fact he says he doesn't have any pass rush moves is a positive because we can mold him how we want him is probably reason enough to toss him.

From what I have reading and watching Stewarts tape, he has two main issues.

1st - Half the time he doesn't keep his head up so he doesn't know where the ball is.  This makes him look lost because he is.  When he keeps his head up pre-snap he definitely sees the play and moves toward the ball.  
2nd - He doesn't use his hands....at all.  This s the main reason he does not get separation.  He beats his man and then doesn't shed, which hinders getting ot the ball after beating his man.

Regardless of the two things above he almost always beats his man routinely.  The only exception I saw was when he went against the LSU tackle that was a top 5 pick.  Teach him to keep his head up EVERY play and some basic hand shedding and he'll be a monster.

[Luvnit2]

(05-02-2025, 01:24 PM)Stewy Wrote: From what I have reading and watching Stewarts tape, he has two main issues.

1st - Half the time he doesn't keep his head up so he doesn't know where the ball is.  This makes him look lost because he is.  When he keeps his head up pre-snap he definitely sees the play and moves toward the ball.  
2nd - He doesn't use his hands....at all.  This s the main reason he does not get separation.  He beats his man and then doesn't shed, which hinders getting ot the ball after beating his man.

Regardless of the two things above he almost always beats his man routinely.  The only exception I saw was when he went against the LSU tackle that was a top 5 pick.  Teach him to keep his head up EVERY play and some basic hand shedding and he'll be a monster.

So he plays blindly and doesn't use his hands, but wins most of the time.

Good news is he was blind and now he can see. Montgomery can also help he rediscover he has hands, so use them.

Maybe it was me, but I got a laugh out of your comments. There are spot on, but just my weird sense of humor or the 1st round pick is blind playing with no hands was funny.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(05-01-2025, 02:17 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Sorry, I can't listen to him until he learns to pronounce Bengals instead of calling them the Bangles.

At least it's better than his father's, "Bingles."

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

I give Chris Simms a lot of crap, have for years, but he is spot on here on Shemar Stewart especially. Al Golden got one heck of a player
for his Defense. At the very least we have an upgrade to Sam Hubbard because this guy is a freak athlete and is great at sealing the edge
in the run game. As Chris says here, imagine Stewart in pure pass rush sets not getting doubled or chipped as much because Trey is on
the other side who was the NFL sack leader last season...

Shemar needs to learn some moves and he could be a terror for QB's in the NFL. He can already play all across the line. Going to be fun
to watch this guy develop.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

No pass rush moves?

I’m not sure that Shemar having as many pass rush moves as me minus the SEC coaching is the endorsement Chris Simms thinks it is.

[SunsetBengal]

(05-04-2025, 01:50 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: No pass rush moves?

I’m not sure that Shemar having as many pass rush moves as me minus the SEC coaching is the endorsement Chris Simms thinks it is.

On a positive note, he's a blank slate for the coaching staff to work with. I just hope they get him out of that habit of looking down at the Tackle's feet at the snap.

[Joelist]

I want to see what Stewart does when not in Texas A&Ms system. Remember they play VERY tight to the line so the EDGE effectively has no chance to beat anyone off the edge in the first place. Of course we'll also want to see Stewart zero in properly on the ball carrier and make the play.

With regards to Simms, I also liked his critique of "draft gurus".

[BengalsBong]

(05-01-2025, 03:17 PM)Joelist Wrote: Eh. Accents are what accents are...

I used to think it was people intentional mispronouncing the name to be disrespectful to us.

But yeah, I think it is a northeastern accent thing over being disrespectful.

[THE PISTONS]

(05-01-2025, 09:23 PM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I remember him absolutely gushing over DJ Turner. If neither he nor Stewart pan out I think that we can reasonably toss him. 

I think that most of the stuff you can find from the pundits on drafts will be mostly positive about players.

The draft is a big injection of hype into the NFL several months before the season. Really no other sport has that, but the NBA is close. The NBA you kind of know that mostly top picks will do well and not a ton of hope for mid to late 1st guys in Year 1.

NFL, you could get a starter in the 4th Round.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(05-04-2025, 06:09 PM)Joelist Wrote: I want to see what Stewart does when not in Texas A&Ms system. Remember they play VERY tight to the line so the EDGE effectively has no chance to beat anyone off the edge in the first place. Of course we'll also want to see Stewart zero in properly on the ball carrier and make the play.

With regards to Simms, I also liked his critique of "draft gurus".

Same here. I wanted Gibbs too the most leading up to that draft. Sure as heck was not a reach by the Lions looking back.

Seeing Stewart in true pass rush sets should be very entertaining. We will pretty much be freeing up Stewart to do what he does best if he can 
just keep his head up to not get lost on plays. This is not hard to coach up.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(05-04-2025, 01:50 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: No pass rush moves?

I’m not sure that Shemar having as many pass rush moves as me minus the SEC coaching is the endorsement Chris Simms thinks it is.

No big deal, we drafted a CB in the 1st round who didn't know how to backpedal. Only took 4 rookie seasons to become a mediocre starter.