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Trey Hendrickson Update
Trey still has at least 3 years of 10+ sacks in him. 

Take it to the bank.  Mellow



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(2 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: There's no way that Stewart could produce in 2025 a number would make any team comfortable having him as their only DE heading into 2026 instead of tagging Hendrickson for $25m-ish.

I mean if Stewart absolutely balls out and gets an unrealistic 10 sacks (last year the rookie sack leader was at 8.5 and second place was at 6.0... the only rookie to have at least 10 sacks in the last 5 years was Micah Parsons in 2021), that would still put him 7.5 shy of Hendrickson's last two years totals and we already were talking about how badly we needed a decent second DE to go with Hendrickson. 

So you'd swap out an All-Pro DE for a lesser DE, and then still have the same need at DE #2 in 2026 that we had in 2024.

Yep, and in 2026 we have another chance to draft a DE in the 1st, and/or pick one up in free agency.  You act like Hendrickson is just going to continue to play at the same level over the next three years. History says otherwise. If he were 25, I wouldn't be making this argument. He's not. He's going to slow down. Father time beats all. That is why he is so desperate for guarantees. He knows it, the Bengals know it.
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(2 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Yep, and in 2026 we have another chance to draft a DE in the 1st, and/or pick one up in free agency.  You act like Hendrickson is just going to continue to play at the same level over the next three years. History says otherwise. If he were 25, I wouldn't be making this argument. He's not. He's going to slow down. Father time beats all. That is why he is so desperate for guarantees. He knows it, the Bengals know it.

Trey still has 3 years of 10+ sacks in him!!!

Bank!!!!! Take it there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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(2 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: Trey still has 3 years of 10+ sacks in him!!!

Bank!!!!! Take it there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't dsisagree, so how much do 10 sack guy gets paid versus 17.5 sack guys is the question the FO has to determine, as 30 + sacks 52.5 sacks is a huge downward trend,
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(2 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Yep, and in 2026 we have another chance to draft a DE in the 1st, and/or pick one up in free agency.  You act like Hendrickson is just going to continue to play at the same level over the next three years. History says otherwise. If he were 25, I wouldn't be making this argument. He's not. He's going to slow down. Father time beats all. That is why he is so desperate for guarantees. He knows it, the Bengals know it.

You’d have more of an argument if we didn’t just see 30 year old Watt and 29 year old Garrett get exactly the guarantees Trey wants. It’s unreasonable to expect him to settle for less.
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(3 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: If Stewart pans out I doubt they'd franchise tag a Defensive End soon to be 32 yoa. 

There two edge positions on defense!
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(2 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I don't dsisagree, so how much do 10 sack guy gets paid versus 17.5 sack guys is the question the FO has to determine, as 30 + sacks 52.5 sacks is a huge downward trend,

For me, the 10(+/-) is more in year 3 and beyond. I'd still expect mid teens for the next 2 years. 



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(2 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You’d have more of an argument if we didn’t just see 30 year old Watt and 29 year old Garrett get exactly the guarantees Trey wants. It’s unreasonable to expect him to settle for less.

Well there you go, when you start using Cleveland as an example of doing things right.... well..... Ninja As for Watt, he's already declining from what he was. Pittsburgh will regret that deal as well.
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(2 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Well there you go, when you start using Cleveland as an example of doing things right.... well..... Ninja As for Watt, he's already declining from what he was. Pittsburgh will regret that deal as well.

Yeah, Pittsburgh and Cleveland know nothing about building good defenses. Ninja
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(2 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: For me, the 10(+/-) is more in year 3 and beyond. I'd still expect mid teens for the next 2 years. 

I hope we sign and he gets 20 sacks in 2024,but no given when he peaks. That is the issue FO has to deal with and why the guaranteed money is such an issue. I think we should offer a deal with a 2 year guararatee and in year 3 low base + roster bonus + per sack incentive. I think that is a very fair compromise for both sides.

If we are only offering a 1 year guarantee, to me that is not enough. But, I do think some of year 2 should also be sack bases, get the sacks and get more dough. 
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