Notes From Training Camp 2025

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 12:32 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Unlike yourself, I dint guve a damn about the opinions of sports writers

Again ..our offense was extremely potent even without our starting left tackles and a bunch of plug and play players last year

We have a new OL coach, we drafted some pretty darn good rookies, people are healthy, volson is young tough and strong and may even benefit

Just because they did not sign some costly, aging , big name FAs , whose best days are behind them, does not mean that there wont be improvement

He asked you to name them and just like a troll, you didn't and just changed the subject. 

[Nepa]

(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So much hope...

I'm not meaning to attack your stance, personally. I just keep seeing all this talk and it makes me sad how disappointed so many are going to be. 

Shemar tests off the chart. Shemar doesn't change direction very well. He's very clunk in his movement. Lamar is super twitchy. Shemar is not. It's not going to be any more pretty than what Hubbard did. 

You may be right, and it may have been a reason that Shemar didn't run the 3-cone drill because it would inform about how well he changes direction. I guess we will see soon, perhaps as early as one week from Thursday when the Bengals have their first preseason game.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So much hope...

I'm not meaning to attack your stance, personally. I just keep seeing all this talk and it makes me sad how disappointed so many are going to be. 

Shemar tests off the chart. Shemar doesn't change direction very well. He's very clunk in his movement. Lamar is super twitchy. Shemar is not. It's not going to be any more pretty than what Hubbard did. 

You don't see the lightning quick step and strength against Mims and Fairchild in the vids in this very thread?

I know Shemar is not known to be twitchy, but I just don't see how you cannot see an athletic freak when watching him.

Hubbard was slow as molasses last year, did you notice this?

All Shemar has to do is help against the run and be disruptive and not a complete weakness to be better than Sam last year IMO.

(Yesterday, 01:43 PM)Synric Wrote: Hubbard was a really smooth mover. Just had no twitch. I remember arguing he was more athletic than Cael Lawson who was straight line explosive but stiff.

In his prime yeah. I still remember when Carl was here and healthy when he could get so low around the edge his shoulder pad would nearly
touch the ground coming off the edge and he could still keep his balance. Was pretty special with his bend, but he just got hurt all the damn 
time and also couldn't get the sacks.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:02 PM)Nepa Wrote: You may be right, and it may have been a reason that Shemar didn't run the 3-cone drill because it would inform about how well he changes direction. I guess we will see soon, perhaps as early as one week from Thursday when the Bengals have their first preseason game.

I cannot wait. Shemar has been getting lots of pass breakups already, he will bring some good stuff, I guarantee it.

Maybe not the sacks that everybody covets, but TFL, PBU's, hits and pressures will happen with this guy.

[*PhilHos*]

(07-28-2025, 06:25 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't usually do this...but you need to STHU, Phil. 6 or 7th is about the 80th percentile. Good but not great. 

Pfft, like I'm going to listen to a guy who misspells "shut" and doesn't even finish the sentence "shut the hell up".

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So much hope...

I'm not meaning to attack your stance, personally. I just keep seeing all this talk and it makes me sad how disappointed so many are going to be. 

Shemar tests off the chart. Shemar doesn't change direction very well. He's very clunk in his movement. Lamar is super twitchy. Shemar is not. It's not going to be any more pretty than what Hubbard did. 

Hope is awesome. Disappointment comes only from being unrealistic with your hope. Like hoping you win the multi million dollar lottery is not the issue, expecting you will it is very unrealistic and will cause disappointment. Life though is full of disappointments so we all better be ready to handle them. They are coming.

As for sports, I think most fans in here are realistic whether they have hope or not. For me, I hope we win the Super Bowl in 2025, but I won't be disappointed if we don't as a lot of pieces need to fall in place for any team to win it all.

I hope Stewart wins rookie of the year, but my bigger hope is we win the SB and if that means Stewarts was not good, who cares when we see MB hoist the Lomabardi.

[Luvnit2]

https://www.bengals.com/news/shemar-stewart-s-tips-and-mike-gesicki-s-grab-give-bengals-a-handful

Day 5 obseravtions from Bengals site, player of the day......................Stewart

[Sled21]

Bunch of posters arguing like 13-year-old girls about which rookies are going to be great and which rookies are going to suck. None of us have a clue until they start playing the games.....

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Bunch of posters arguing like 13-year-old girls about which rookies are going to be great and which rookies are going to suck. None of us have a clue until they start playing the games.....

You saying I am arguing like a 13 year old girl Sled? 

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:02 PM)Nepa Wrote: You may be right, and it may have been a reason that Shemar didn't run the 3-cone drill because it would inform about how well he changes direction. I guess we will see soon, perhaps as early as one week from Thursday when the Bengals have their first preseason game.

That was my thought. 


Here's the funny part...i have this weird feeling he's going to get 2 sacks in the first preseason game and everyone is going to go wild...then, MM2.0 in the regular season. 

I'll have my fingers cossed for a good rookie season and looking like a maroon for saying he'll bust doesn't mean jack shit to me, so i hope i'm way off base. 

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 02:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That was my thought. 


Here's the funny part...i have this weird feeling he's going to get 2 sacks in the first preseason game and everyone is going to go wild...then, MM2.0 in the regular season. 

I'll have my fingers cossed for a good rookie season and looking like a maroon for saying he'll bust doesn't mean jack shit to me, so i hope i'm way off base. 

Maybe you care to much how other think. Or maybe you just can't get high hopes because you can't handle the disappointment so you lower your expectations to protect your feelings.

Just messing with you...or am I

BTW..it appears Sled think you argue like a 13 year old girl, he couldn't have meant me 

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:04 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You don't see the lightning quick step and strength against Mims and Fairchild in the vids in this very thread?

I know Shemar is not known to be twitchy, but I just don't see how you cannot see an athletic freak when watching him.

Hubbard was slow as molasses last year, did you notice this?

All Shemar has to do is help against the run and be disruptive and not a complete weakness to be better than Sam last year IMO.

I've never denied he's an athletic freak. I just recently said he tested off the chart. 

I haven't seen it translate to on the field success yet and unless something drastic changes, i don't expect to see it. People saw him push into Mims and proclaim him "strong!!!!", when tackles are taught to give ground to a point and Shemar never did anything to get off his chest. Then i saw him run through a missed assignment or whatever it was, where no one even bothered to put a hand on him and people went crazy again. 


That last part...no. He was the #17OA pick. He needs to produce at a decent level, well better than Hubbard who was a 3rd round pick. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I cannot wait. Shemar has been getting lots of pass breakups already, he will bring some good stuff, I guarantee it.

Maybe not the sacks that everybody covets, but TFL, PBU's, hits and pressures will happen with this guy.

You sure you want to do that, Nate?   

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:14 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Hope is awesome. Disappointment comes only from being unrealistic with your hope. Like hoping you win the multi million dollar lottery is not the issue, expecting you will it is very unrealistic and will cause disappointment. Life though is full of disappointments so we all better be ready to handle them. They are coming.

As for sports, I think most fans in here are realistic whether they have hope or not. For me, I hope we win the Super Bowl in 2025, but I won't be disappointed if we don't as a lot of pieces need to fall in place for any team to win it all.

I hope Stewart wins rookie of the year, but my bigger hope is we win the SB and if that means Stewarts was not good, who cares when we see MB hoist the Lomabardi.

 

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Bunch of posters arguing like 13-year-old girls about which rookies are going to be great and which rookies are going to suck. None of us have a clue until they start playing the games.....

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You saying I am arguing like a 13 year old girl Sled? 

And i also heard he thinks PBR sucks!!!!!  

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 01:09 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Ricky Bobby said it, f you are not first, you are last. Yes, the Bengals offense was great in 2025, but they were not close to the best offense in the NFL. That should be the goal of the FO, coaches and players. It is the FO's job to improve a very good offensive roster. We can debate if adding Risner or Hernandez to take the roster spot of our current 6th best guard is an upgrade, but it likely would be.

Bengals have cap space, use it to upgrade the OL if they feel it is an uograde. Adding a vet OL like the 2 I mentioned may end up being a luxary if the others incuding a rookie pan out, but there are also injuries, so having a proven vet as a backuo swing OG ony makes us better in my humble opinion.

Aside from baltimore and detroit, there was no real appreciable differnce in output , yards per game..with the next ten top teams..and superbowl champ philadelphia and cincinnati were almost identical

As far as your nonsensical banter about wanting to be the best...just because this FO has not signed over the hill, slightly injured big name players whose best playing days are long behind them..does not mean they are not trying to be the best

Do you really think that the powers that be in the bengals organiztion are sitting back and putposefully not signing certain players to piss off Bengals Board members

And I dont are what sportswriters feel. Even though .there are many that feel if this line stays healthy this year, with the changes made in coaching and player additiins, , that the OL will be solid

And finally, by the end of training camp..the organization will have a much better feel..specific to the offensive line..and guess what...there will be some really good young healthy players that made it to final cuts..they will be available

Again, i hope you are doing well post surgical and your heart is strong.We were delayed .. one of our gang is a cardiac surgeon and had to do the emergency stent thing...but now off to the golf course..take care

[ERIC1]

(Yesterday, 02:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You saying I am arguing like a 13 year old girl Sled? 

Usually...historically..outside of the top ten-twenty draft picks ..its always a crap shoot

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:45 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I've never denied he's an athletic freak. I just recently said he tested off the chart. 

I haven't seen it translate to on the field success yet and unless something drastic changes, i don't expect to see it. People saw him push into Mims and proclaim him "strong!!!!", when tackles are taught to give ground to a point and Shemar never did anything to get off his chest. Then i saw him run through a missed assignment or whatever it was, where no one even bothered to put a hand on him and people went crazy again. 


That last part...no. He was the #17OA pick. He needs to produce at a decent level, well better than Hubbard who was a 3rd round pick. 

Cool buddy, he definitely needs to reign in his shit. He over pursues at times like Dunlap used to do, Mims will be a stud though.

Shemar pushing 6"8" 340 pound monster Mims back like that impressed me. He abused Fairchild in one vid I watched and Fairchild was 
impressing everyone before this. Shemar was also player of the day this last day of camp.

(Yesterday, 02:47 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: You sure you want to do that, Nate?   

Well, I am not saying much, bringing some good stuff isn't like saying he will be great right off the bat. He will struggle like any rookie.

Just saying he will raise eyebrows in a good way at times for sure. Sam last year was meh, I bet Shemar is not meh.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 02:54 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: Aside from baltimore and detroit, there was no real appreciable differnce in output , yards per game..with the next ten  top teams..and superbowl champ philadelphia and cincinnati were almost identical

As far as your nonsensical banter about wanting to be the best...just because this FO has not signed over the hill, slightly injured big name players whose best playing days are long behind them..does not mean they are not trying to be the best

Do you really think that the powers that be in the bengals organiztion are sitting back and putposefully not signing certain players to piss off Bengals Board members

And I dont are what sportswriters feel. Even though .there are many that feel if this line stays healthy this year, with the changes made in coaching and player additiins, , that the OL will be solid

And finally, by the end of training camp..the organization will have a much better feel..specific to the offensive line..and guess what...there will be some really good young healthy players that made it to final cuts..they will be available

Again, i hope you are doing well post surgical and your heart is strong.We were delayed .. one of our gang is a cardiac surgeon and had to do the emergency stent thing...but now off to the golf course..take care

This is the part of the program where the troll starts testing the boundaries of what he can get away with, before going out in a blazing fireball of dipshittery posting. That is, unless the mods get him before he lights the match. 

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