Notes From Training Camp 2025

[sandwedge]

(Yesterday, 06:39 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Hernandez was medically cleared a couple days ago. 

Could possibly not be in football shape

[Ell Prez]

(07-28-2025, 01:52 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Come on man. You said D J is too short. Do the homework. A lot of good corners 5.11 and the guy you said we should have signed,Murphy. Never said a word that he was as good as Ward

So if it’s not his size, why do you think DJ Turner isn’t that good? So far, he’s not that good and a liability out there.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 06:39 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Hernandez was medically cleared a couple days ago. 

Medically cleared and being 100% are not the same thing. How many players are medically cleared and go out there playing hurt but not at 100%? Happens all the time. Just look at Hubbard and Wilson last year.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 09:52 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I dont know about that excuse.  A 22 years old athlete has to miss practice time because he has arthritis in his thumb?

Bone injuries can cause arthritis at any age.

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 11:01 PM)pally Wrote: The joint at the base of the thumb is the most common place in the body for osteoarthritis as well as inflammatory arthritis. It can cause a weakened grip and there may be some instability.  Proper taping could help deal with that.  Other than those issues it’s a pain tolerance thing. A joint injection might help.  But yeah, while it’s going to be painful, a 22 year old professional football player should be able to handle it.

That makes Mr believe it may involve soft tissue such as a ligament or tendon tear which can cause issues of its own.

Every time they inject a joint, it weakens the structure.

[Soonerpeace]

(11 hours ago)Ell Prez Wrote: So if it’s not his size, why do you think DJ Turner isn’t that good? So far, he’s not that good and a liability out there.

He’s MVP of camp so far. You’re behind

[Luvnit2]

(10 hours ago)Soonerpeace Wrote: He’s MVP of camp so far. You’re behind

I know he had a great day yesterday, not sure he was having great days every day. I hope he is great, but like Pally said he seems to be good or bad. He needs to be more consistent and more good plays than bad.

All CB's will have bad plays, it is the nature of the competition as WR's in the NFL will make the best cb's look bad. I thought Chase and Higgins both made Ramsey look bad in the Super Bowl, but he is a very good CB.

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(Yesterday, 05:45 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I don't think anyone believes Hernandez is healthy, or he wouldn't be available. I'd go after Scherf on a one year deal

This.  

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(Yesterday, 08:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I will have to go back in this thread and look at what I read earlier, I kind of brushed over it trying to watch the highlights of everything 
going on but Mims is my dude so I am very concerned. The only reason I wasn't for drafting him was because he never has had a fully 
healthy season in his career. Seems like long enough time for a young guy to heal to me, even without surgery.


I don't get not having surgery on it when you have all the doctors and the money to do the best surgery possible. It isn't like me who 
cannot afford it and I don't have medical insurance. I just have to be careful in everything I do, these guys get hurt all the time, it is in
their best interest to use all they have to help them heal as quickly as possible.


I didn't hear that...

Right?

[Soonerpeace]

(10 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I know he had a great day yesterday, not sure he was having great days every day. I hope he is great, but like Pally said he seems to be good or bad. He needs to be more consistent and more good plays than bad.

All CB's will have bad plays, it is the nature of the competition as WR's in the NFL will make the best cb's look bad. I thought Chase and Higgins both made Ramsey look bad in the Super Bowl, but he is a very good CB.

Well the history of my comments about Turner were centered with EL Prez. I haven’t been Turner’s champion. I’m somewhat busting El Prez’s balls. He had his thread lamenting our off season. He didn’t give any specifics and I forced him too. He picked on DJ because he was too small. He said we should have looked at Byron Murphy (who resigned with the Vikings). Murphy is 5.11 too. 5.11 is not to small for a corner. Obviously length & vertical can help that. I was also busting El Prez because DJ has had a great camp. The secondary is suspect on this team. Drafting and development are the reasons. Hopefully their play in early camp means they are much better.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(Today, 12:32 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Could possibly not be in football shape

I am sure he isn't. But he IS healthy. He isn't hurt. Just like Seth McLaughlin here. 

He probably would have to take it slow for a bit. But if Patrick has to start a couple games, I'm OK with that. 

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(10 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I know he had a great day yesterday, not sure he was having great days every day. I hope he is great, but like Pally said he seems to be good or bad. He needs to be more consistent and more good plays than bad.

All CB's will have bad plays, it is the nature of the competition as WR's in the NFL will make the best cb's look bad. I thought Chase and Higgins both made Ramsey look bad in the Super Bowl, but he is a very good CB.

All will have bad plays but not all will have good plays, so at least he is getting the flip side of the coin.

[Sled21]

(10 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I know he had a great day yesterday, not sure he was having great days every day. I hope he is great, but like Pally said he seems to be good or bad. He needs to be more consistent and more good plays than bad.

All CB's will have bad plays, it is the nature of the competition as WR's in the NFL will make the best cb's look bad. I thought Chase and Higgins both made Ramsey look bad in the Super Bowl, but he is a very good CB.

I can't remember now if it was Zac, or Golden, but one of them said the other day that Turner was having flashes of playing great, but they needed consistency and not "flashes." It seems the day after that was the day he had five PBUs. I think he got the message.

[Luvnit2]

(9 hours ago)Au165 Wrote: All will have bad plays but not all will have good plays, so at least he is getting the flip side of the coin.

Agree

[Luvnit2]

Has anyone seen anything on Burks who we added at LB and rookie LB Carter?

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(07-29-2025, 01:34 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It shows up clearly, on film, if you're not looking for something else...

Where are you getting the film and also the time to watch all that?
I don't have the time nor interest to go watch hours of snaps.
That's why I look more at stats.
Metrics, if good, should be able to give quicker gauge of good/bad without having to go spend a bunch of time doing my own analysis.


Can you provide some "clear film" for me please?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Today, 12:27 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Now would be the time to get it done then!

It would be. Hopefully Mims gets it done now so he is ready for the opener, meanwhile Jalen Rivers gets a ton of valuable snaps through
out camp and Preseason to grow at RT.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(9 hours ago)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I am sure he isn't. But he IS healthy. He isn't hurt. Just like Seth McLaughlin here. 

He probably would have to take it slow for a bit. But if Patrick has to start a couple games, I'm OK with that. 

Yep, bring Hernandez in and slowly bring him along until he is 100%. We all know that Patrick is not 100% right now and we don't want 
Cody Ford starting at RG too much this season. I have a feeling Risner doesn't fit the scheme and Scherff is too old for the coaches or 
something.

(9 hours ago)Au165 Wrote: All will have bad plays but not all will have good plays, so at least he is getting the flip side of the coin.

True, it is a good sign DJ Turner is turning the corner in a good way.

[coachmcneil71]

(10 hours ago)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well the history of my comments about Turner were centered with EL Prez. I haven’t been Turner’s champion. I’m somewhat busting El Prez’s balls. He had his thread lamenting our off season. He didn’t give any specifics and I forced him too. He picked on DJ because he was too small. He said we should have looked at Byron Murphy (who resigned with the Vikings). Murphy is 5.11 too. 5.11 is not to small for a corner. Obviously length & vertical can help that. I was also busting El Prez because DJ has had a great camp. The secondary is suspect on this team. Drafting and development are the reasons. Hopefully their play in early camp means they are much better.

5' 11" is definitely not small for a CB, especially when said CB has 4.1-4.2 fyd speed. If they're gonna progress this would be the year for the young secondary. I read that Dax has been playing like a 1st rounder as well. 

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10 hours ago)Soonerpeace Wrote: He’s MVP of camp so far. You’re behind

Umm…no. He had one very good day yesterday. Last week he was struggling mightily however, and pretty much on every clip of a WR having a big play. He said himself he needs to start stacking good days.