I'm Getting Strong 2010 Vibes

[*rfaulk34*]

(4 hours ago)PhilHos Wrote: But if we do that, how are we supposed to *****-and-moan and doom-and-gloom?

[*jason*]

(5 hours ago)Bengalbug Wrote: How about chargers and broncos? Really interested in the talent they brought in before 2024 that contributed to their turnaround.

Man really I think the Broncos were just a QB away for a few years. It was supposed to Russell Wilson.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 09:48 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He's been a really good starter ever since he's been with the team. Are you dogging him for sack numbers? Check out all of the stats on the other 31 3Ts in the league, along with all of their other stats. BJ Hill measures up just fine, especially for the price range that he commands. If you want a sack artist at 3T? That's going to cost $25M+ (unless you draft one and get the benefit of a rookie contract) 

Spot on with BJ Hill. TLL provided stats comparing Larry O and BJ since the year we went to the SB and Hill blows away his numbers.

BJ Hill is as solid as it gets, all we have to be is solid this year on Defense and we have as good of a shot as anyone to make it back to the SB.

Liked what I saw of Kris Jenkins and McKinnley in the first preseason game too. We get push up the middle with Trey back and Shemar emerging
and it will make the entire Defense look way better.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 07:19 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: I'm hoping the front 7 comes together this year.

I'm still very worried about FS and corner. 
Both have been very bad.
At this point I'm hoping they can be average.

They could really use a legit starter at corner and FS to solidify the group.
I'm not convinced we have a potential lockdown corner on the roster.

I'm expecting growing pains on defense this year and hopefully they can hit on a lockdown corner next year in the draft.

I'm really not concerned about the offense at all other than them staying healthy all year.

Yeah, if I have a concern on Defense it is FS and Corner as well. Stone was not good last year, I like Battle though at SS and think 
if Dax Hill, DJ Turner, CTB and Fig Newton can stay relatively healthy they could be a good room. But not a sure thing. The Offense
will be damn good if Burrow the OL and the weapons stay healthy.

[*rfaulk34*]

(4 hours ago)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: All I'm saying is I wouldn't have high expectations for this defense this year.
It's going to take some time to develop what we have--and we need more talent on the defense as well.

If I were a betting man I'd bet on them being closer to worst than first on defense this year.
When you factor in other teams having to keep up with our offense--as well as the defense not being very good--it doesn't bode well.

If they surprise us they surprise us. But I wouldn't get your hopes up.

I don't know too many that have high expectations. I'm thinking a middling group is all they need. As close to 16 as they can be, but i think even a 20th ranked D gets them into the playoffs. Anything above 16th would just be icing on the cake. 

[Luvnit2]

(4 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't know too many that have high expectations. I'm thinking a middling group is all they need. As close to 16 as they can be, but i think even a 20th ranked D gets them into the playoffs. Anything above 16th would just be icing on the cake. 

This is spot on.

Bengals gave up 348 points a game which was 25th in league. If they improve 20 yards per game, they would be around 13th.
https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/team-stats?category=defense&season=2024

Points per game 25.5 or 26th in 2024. Improve 2 points and they are 19th.

My point is Bengals don't need to go to top 5 defense in 2025 with our NFL as you said. To get around 20th in yards allowed and points allowed is not a huge leap.