(01-13-2016, 05:55 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Good points.
I'll concede that you are probably right about Harrison not costing games. Not sure about him being better at his position. Harrison was excellent at his, no doubt. I think Burflict is too.
But, in true Bengal fashion, I think Burflict may be redeemable. Most sociopaths can be taught to obey the laws, as most see the benefit to themselves in that.
Disagree with Burfict being excellent.
As to the rest............good luck. You haven't the organization nor the coaches for that type of turn around.
(01-13-2016, 05:54 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: As long as you acknowledge the hypocrisy. As far as the Steelers wanting him, clearly the answer is no as the Bengals were the only team to show any interest in him. I agree, he is a good player, he has the kind of intensity you want in every player. He is also an unstable hot head who deliberately tries to injure his opponents and this has been known about him since college. When I say I don't see him being in the league in around two years I'm not talking smack, I'm being serious. He hasn't changed a bit since college what makes you, or anyone, think he's going to change now?
Like I mentioned to SCS, most sociopaths can be taught to obey the laws as most see the benefit to themselves in that.
But I concede that, if Vontaze doesn't make it as a Bengal, he probably won't play anywhere else in the NFL. At least as long as Marvin is in Cincy. Vontaze and Jones would literally take a bullet for Marvin. They know the franchise gave them a chance and that Marvin let them on the field to show what they could do.
Now, if we could only convince them to use their brains for Marvin.
(01-13-2016, 06:02 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Like I mentioned to SCS, most sociopaths can be taught to obey the laws as most see the benefit to themselves in that.
But I concede that, if Vontaze doesn't make it as a Bengal, he probably won't play anywhere else in the NFL. At least as long as Marvin is in Cincy. Vontaze and Jones would literally take a bullet for Marvin. They know the franchise gave them a chance and that Marvin let the on the field to show what they could do.
Now, if we could only convince them to use their brains for Marvin.
His college coaches benched him for continually going out of his way to make dirty hits. At the combine, he blamed those coaches for his poor performances. A couple concussions later and I don't think this guy will be able to relearn how to spell his first name, let alone change the way he has always played. You don't think Marv knew his problems and have been trying to address them for the past 4 years already?
(01-13-2016, 06:00 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Disagree with Burfict being excellent.
As to the rest............good luck. You haven't the organization nor the coaches for that type of turn around.
We've had good results with Chris Henry. And Adam Jones was doing really well until Saturday. Even then, unless I missed something, he was only out-of-line during the "Brown/Porter Incident".
(01-13-2016, 06:07 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: We've had good results with Chris Henry. And Adam Jones was doing really well until Saturday. Even then, unless I missed something, he was only out-of-line during the "Brown/Porter Incident".
Well then have fun.
Wait....You thought Chris Henry was a shining example.....Huh.
(01-13-2016, 06:02 PM)6andcounting Wrote: I didn't, that's the people who are counted in your comment about being alive in 1990.
Yeah. Grandmothers.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
(01-13-2016, 06:22 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Hitting the age of 65 is not what makes a person a grandmother.
Thanks
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
I will say this about Vontaze, and some of you won't like hearing it: As long as he continues the questionable or outright illegal stuff, you can't complain about the calls and fines against him that seem ridiculously out of line. That is the NFL's form of karma. This league lacks consistency in some of the officiating and penalizing. They try and compensate later. I watch so many games where one team seems to be getting a lot of penalties or a few questionable penalties called against them and the fans start to scream bloody murder. Then, a short while later, the refs start calling penalties against the other team for awhile. It always seems to go in spurts like that. No consistency.
(01-13-2016, 04:18 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Steelers better hope we play them in the first 3 weeks. The mean man will be out for blood after that.
The hypocritical NFL (or it's network cronies) would never allow that to happen. His suspension will be reduced on appeal, and the first matchup between the Steelers and Bengals will be in primetime when he returns... Book it.
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As far as the Steelers wanting him, clearly the answer is no as the Bengals were the only team to show any interest in him. I agree, he is a good player, he has the kind of intensity you want in every player. He is also an unstable hot head who deliberately tries to injure his opponents and this has been known about him since college. When I say I don't see him being in the league in around two years I'm not talking smack, I'm being serious. He hasn't changed a bit since college what makes you, or anyone, think he's going to change now?![[Image: 416686247_404249095282684_84217049823664...e=659A7198]](https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/416686247_404249095282684_8421704982366424390_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=p8hMrwwk1IoAX8mnFLJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fphx1-2.fna&oh=00_AfBXs4gKHr4knFejO874dfV3zzLd_bq4GiUqHxGWFlwbug&oe=659A7198)
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