Jay Hayes leaving for Tampa

[Yojimbo]

Going to need a new D-line coach to go with a new QB coach.

http://www.bucsnation.com/2016/1/15/10777052/buccaneers-hiring-jay-hayes-and-mark-duffner-to-replace-hardy

[Beaker]

Assistant coaches bailing at an alarming rate because they are now fully aware of the futility of their situation as ML stays at the helm.

[gobobro]

Wow. Not just a break up of the Hayes brothers, but a break up in which Jay took a lateral move...

[BonnieBengal]

Our coaches are bailing! Except Paul Alexander, of course.

[*wildcats forever*]

Didn't see that coming, given his tenure here, success, and the talent he has to work with for the next few years. And for a lateral move!

Trying not to read too much into this, but it raises a question of 'why'.

[WeezyBengal]

Coaches bailing is one thing, coaches bailing without getting a promotion is another thing.

Should us fans be worried? Are things really that bad with leadership/the organization that coaches are making lateral moves to other teams?

[Bengal Dude]

Shocking to see Hayes leave considering his long time friendship with Marvin.

[BonnieBengal]

I haven't heard anymore about Coyle coming here.

[Wes Mantooth]

Good for him. Smart move. Good luck, Jay.

[WeezyBengal]

(01-15-2016, 06:42 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Shocking to see Hayes leave considering his long time friendship with Marvin.

And his brother is a coach on the team as well. Tight ends coach I believe. 

Maybe the guy just wanted a new challenge.

[Bengal Dude]

(01-15-2016, 06:44 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: And his brother is a coach on the team as well. Tight ends coach I believe. 

Maybe the guy just wanted a new challenge.

I've wanted Johnathan Hayes gone for a while. I wonder if he'll follow.

[BonnieBengal]

They're interviewing 49ers DB coach to be our DB coach. Tim Lewis.

[BritishBengal]

Yikes.

[Wes Mantooth]

(01-15-2016, 06:46 PM)BonnieBengal Wrote: They're interviewing 49ers DB coach to be our DB coach.  Tim Lewis.

Werent they dead last in team defense this year? (Sorry, on phone)

[Benton]

(01-15-2016, 06:42 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: Didn't see that coming, given his tenure here, success, and the talent he has to work with for the next few years. And for a lateral move!

Trying not to read too much into this, but it raises a question of 'why'.

Just guessing, but I would say he probably looked at it as a way to get noticed more. 

The last couple decades we've made do with the DL. We don't take many 1-2 round draft picks for it and when we do take somebody, it's usually of the safe variety. We've found some FA and later round help, but if I was hayes, I don't think I would be looking to get a high first round pick on this team.

He might have the feeling in Tampa he can make a decent mark by developing whoever it is they've got/will get.

[Bengal Dude]

(01-15-2016, 06:51 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Werent they dead last in team defense this year? (Sorry, on phone)

This was his first/only season with the 49ers. He was with Atlanta before that.

[BonnieBengal]

(01-15-2016, 06:51 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Werent they dead last in team defense this year? (Sorry, on phone)

29th.  Apparently Lewis spent a lot of time as a Steelers coach in his career.  

[CageTheBengal]

(01-15-2016, 06:43 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Good for him. Smart move.  Good luck, Jay.

What's smart about leaving an all but permanent job to take the exact same job elsewhere with less stability?

[McC]

(01-15-2016, 06:51 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Werent they dead last in team defense this year? (Sorry, on phone)

That'll happen when half your defense retires.

[BritishBengal]

(01-15-2016, 06:58 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: What's smart about leaving an all but permanent job to take the exact same job elsewhere with less stability?

More sun, less taxes.