***Week 13 GameDay Thread...Eagles @ Bengals***

[jfkbengals]

(12-04-2016, 05:05 PM)RiverRat13 Wrote: If you can kick it out of the endzone, you don't need to tackle.

Most teams are avoiding doing that.

[BengalChris]

(12-04-2016, 04:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Even with the big lead, I am over this running Hill on first down for nothing business.

The OL hasn't run blocked well since 2014. People need to remember that Gio hadn't done very well either in the running game. It's not specifically Hill.

Our OL coach sucks. And the HC waited until the season was lost before removing the biggest OL culprit.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(12-04-2016, 05:04 PM)matmaven Wrote: You talking about the Gio who is averaging 3.7 YPC this season and has NO 20+ runs this season vs Hill's 4.4 YPC and 5 20+ runs.


Must be a different Gio  you are talking about.  

Hill had that big Cleveland game. He has all of 2 games this season of at least 4ypc.

Also that 4.4 is going to plummet more with his 19 carries for jack today.

[reuben.ahmed]

This is the first team all year that looks clearly worse than us.

[Shake n Blake]

(12-04-2016, 05:00 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: It's annoying that you haven't seen how bad Hill has been his whole career as a Bengal. He needs perfect blocking. Gio doesn't. Burkhead obviously doesn't. Hill is average to below average.

Hill's YPC is higher than Gio's. Everyone has been terrible running the ball this year. Rex has earned a shot, but I'd bet any money his YPC will tank with more carries. I get that people hate Hill, but why pretend the o-line hasn't played into the struggles this year? 

I get it. Acknowledging the suck of the o-line gets in the way of Hill bashing.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(12-04-2016, 05:07 PM)BengalChris Wrote: The OL hasn't run blocked well since 2014. People need to remember that Gio hadn't done very well either in the running game. It's not specifically Hill.

Our OL coach sucks. And the HC waited until the season was lost before removing the biggest OL culprit.

I know they haven't blocked well, but that doesn't mean that you can just run Hill every first down for nothing anyway.

Basically surrendering a down.

[reuben.ahmed]

Easy TD for Eagles.

[jj22]

Too easy.

[jfkbengals]

(12-04-2016, 04:59 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Why for the love of Gawd do they keep trying to run sweeps and pitches to Hill outside for -1 yards ?

Philly is REALLY good up the middle against the run.  That's really the only place you have a chance at success running against them.



Who was supposed to be on him?

[SunsetBengal]

(12-04-2016, 05:08 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: This is the first team all year that looks clearly worse than us.

Naw man, this is the same Eagles team that started 3-0, and absolutely housed the Steelers in week 3.  Remember?

[matmaven]

(12-04-2016, 05:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Hill's YPC is higher than Gio's. Everyone has been terrible running the ball this year. Rex has earned a shot, but I'd bet any money his YPC will tank with more carries. I get that people hate Hill, but why pretend the o-line hasn't played into the struggles this year? 

I get it. Acknowledging the suck of the o-line gets in the way of Hill bashing.

Amen.  3 guys in the backfield simultaneous to the handoff and it's the RB's fault? 

[reuben.ahmed]

(12-04-2016, 05:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Hill's YPC is higher than Gio's. Everyone has been terrible running the ball this year. Rex has earned a shot, but I'd bet any money his YPC will tank with more carries. I get that people hate Hill, but why pretend the o-line hasn't played into the struggles this year? 

I get it. Acknowledging the suck of the o-line gets in the way of Hill bashing.

No pretending, but I'd pick Gio 100/100 times over Hill as a RB. It's too bad they all get injured too easily and the O-line IS bad, but Hill has shown he needs perfect blocking. Last year he was one of the slowest to get to the line of scrimmage, and we didn't have much O-line problems last year.

[TSwigZ]

If we blow a 29-0 lead I honestly wouldn't be surprised

[*bfine32*]

(12-04-2016, 05:09 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Easy TD for Eagles.

(12-04-2016, 05:09 PM)jj22 Wrote: Too easy.

What determines easy? They had to go for it in 4th and 9

[Shake n Blake]

(12-04-2016, 05:07 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Hill had that big Cleveland game. He has all of 2 games this season of at least 4ypc.

Also that 4.4 is going to plummet more with his 19 carries for jack today.

Ok. So both Hill and Gio have struggled running the ball. What's more likely? That they are both terrible runners? Or that the terrible o-line is contributing heavily to the run game woes?

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(12-04-2016, 05:09 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Easy TD for Eagles.

Big return, then Wentz remembering he has a good TE he has neglected that the Bengals can't cover.

Still big lead, but I hope the Bengals don't continue to play prevent offense.

[grampahol]

Shut out over..here's the momentum shift, but I kind of doubt they'll score 22 before the gun. However, if they go to their patented horrible prevent Philly just might..

[reuben.ahmed]

(12-04-2016, 05:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Naw man, this is the same Eagles team that started 3-0, and absolutely housed the Steelers in week 3.  Remember?

I don't, I just mean watching this game it's clear they are worse than us (at least today).

[BengalChris]

(12-04-2016, 05:09 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I know they haven't blocked well, but that doesn't mean that you can just run Hill every first down for nothing anyway.

Basically surrendering a down.

Oh, I agree with that. The play selection is horrible for the running game. And defenses are in the backfield.

Team's OL make up needs to change. Can't have a one dimensional offense and expect to win against good teams.

[reuben.ahmed]

(12-04-2016, 05:11 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What determines easy? They had to go for it in 4th and 9

How wide open he was, I wasn't talking about the drive. You coudl have made that throw...