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All-Bengals team just from the Lewis era.
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Pick an all-star Bengals team among the players who have played for Marvin.


**Note** while I consider Dillon the best RB in Bengal history, he didn't produce very well his only year under Marvin. So I will not be including him on my team, but you can do whatever you want.

You can only pick the same player once. So you can't have Whit at both LG and LT.

On offense pick 2 TEs, 2 RB, a FB, and 3 WR (one of which had to play a significant amount in the slot)

Pick both a punt returner and a kick returner.

On defense pick 3 CB (in order)

LBs have to be specific position (WOLB, MLB, SOLB)

Safeties can be interchangeable.

Everything else is pretty much straight forward.
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QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.
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The WR corp of Chad Johnson and AJ Green with Housh in the slot is absolutely awesome. Palmer in his prime prior to the injury throwing 70 yard bombs to AJ on a rope.

Damn man.
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(07-11-2015, 01:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: **Note** while I consider Dillon the best RB in Bengal history, he didn't produce very well his only year under Marvin.

So the writing was on the wall back then.


LB: Burfict and Thurman on the field at the same time? The other team is going to get combat tattoos galore.
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(07-11-2015, 01:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: **Note** while I consider Dillon the best RB in Bengal history, he didn't produce very well his only year under Marvin.

In fairness, he was battling injuries that year.
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.

This seems pretty much 100% spot on. Good job, Shake.

We've always been seemingly thin at S, and IMO Iloka has just about done enough to make his way on this type of "All-Marvin's-Bengals" team. I can't see him dropping off randomly, but I understand that Crocker has been quite solid for us over the years and probably deserves the spot over George.
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.

I wonder how this team would fare against the other Bengals greats pre-Marvin.

Because Marvin added some great talent. It's just mind-boggling how none of these players won playoff games here.
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.

Man how can you not have Ohalete or Daniel Coats on the list?
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.

Only change I might make would be Adam Jones at CB3, for his return ability.  Otherwise, Win!
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.

PR, KR, PK, and Punter?
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QB- Carson Palmer
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Cedric Benson
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Andrew Whitworth
LG- Eric Steinbach
C- Rich Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie Anderson

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- John Thornton
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Dhani Jones
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall
CB3- Deltha O'Neil
S- Reggie Nelson
S- George Iloka

PK- Shayne Graham
P- Kevin Huber
PR- Adam Jones
KR- Brandon Tate
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QB- Carson Palmer
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Andrew Whitworth
LG- Eric Steinbach
C- Rich Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie Anderson

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Dhani Jones
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Deltha O'Neil
CB3- Leon Hall
S- Reggie Nelson
S- George Iloka

PK- Shayne Graham
P- Kevin Huber
PR- Peter Warrick
KR- Adam Jones

Toughest call was Reggie Kelley over Tyler Eifert
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(07-11-2015, 03:52 PM)djs7685 Wrote: This seems pretty much 100% spot on. Good job, Shake.

We've always been seemingly thin at S, and IMO Iloka has just about done enough to make his way on this type of "All-Marvin's-Bengals" team. I can't see him dropping off randomly, but I understand that Crocker has been quite solid for us over the years and probably deserves the spot over George.

Thanks. That was actually the toughest choice for me. Iloka has been impressive recently, but Crocker really provided stability and veteran leadership for several years.
(07-11-2015, 04:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Only change I might make would be Adam Jones at CB3, for his return ability.  Otherwise, Win!

Good one. I kinda forgot about Adam, but I guess I could throw him in as my KR. I like Warrick for my PR. As a CB, I still prefer James, but it's close.
(07-11-2015, 06:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: PR, KR, PK, and Punter?

KR- Adam Jones
PR- Peter Warrick
K- Graham
P- Huber
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(07-11-2015, 03:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer 
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Whit
LG- Steinbach
C- Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall 
CB3- Tory James (very underrated)
S- Reggie Nelson
S- Chris Crocker

Man...this team would be unstoppable.
Looking at this makes me both happy and sad at the same time. 

And yeah, that is one heckuva team.
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(07-11-2015, 07:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: QB- Carson Palmer
RB- Rudi Johnson
RB- Jeremy Hill
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- TJ Houshmandzadeh
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Andrew Whitworth
LG- Eric Steinbach
C- Rich Braham
RG- Bobbie Williams
RT- Willie Anderson

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
DE- Justin Smith
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Dhani Jones
SLB- Brian Simmons
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Deltha O'Neil
CB3- Leon Hall
S- Reggie Nelson
S- George Iloka

PK- Shayne Graham
P- Kevin Huber
PR- Peter Warrick
KR- Adam Jones

Toughest call was Reggie Kelley over Tyler Eifert

Dhani's impact on the team is relatively under appreciated IMO.  He came in during a season where we were starting guys like Anthony Schlegel and position-swapee's like Geathers and Ndukwe at LB.  He really helped mop up a mess, and provided stability that helped mold the younger players (eventually) into a great defense.  

He wasn't flashy and he was far from his prime when he arrived here, but his contribution was pretty significant IMO.  Even as his physical abilities eroded, he remained a true "quarterback of the defense".  No doubt the smartest player on that unit for a long time.  

Thurman was a better player from an ability standpoint, but his off-field flaws are so egregious and stupid that I couldn't put him ahead of Dhani on that roster.
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QB Carson Palmer
RB- Jeremy Hill
RB-Gio Bernard
RT-Willie Anderson
RG-Bobbie Williams
C-Rich Braham
LG- Eric Steinbach
LT-Andrew Whitworth
WR 1- AJ Green
WR 2- Chad Johnson
WR slot- TJ Houshmenzadeh
Defense
RE- Justin Smith
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Domata Peko
LE- Carlos Dunlap
WLB- Vontaz Burfict
MLB-Odell Thurman
SLB- Rey Maluaga
CB- Johanthen Joseph
CB2- Deltha Oneal
Nickel- Leon Hall
SS-George Iloka
FS-  Reggie Nelson
PR- Adam Jones
KR- Bernard Scott
P-Kevn Huber
K- Shayne Graham
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QB- Carson Palmer
RB- Jeremy Hill
RB- Giovani Bernard
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- AJ Green
WR- Chris Henry
TE- Jermaine Gresham
TE- Reggie Kelly
LT- Andrew Whitworth
LG- Eric Steinbach
C- Rich Braham
RG- Kevin Zeitler
RT- Willie Anderson

DE- Carlos Dunlap
DT- Geno Atkins
DT- Pat Sims
DE- Michael Johnson
WLB- Vontaze Burfict
MLB- Odell Thurman
SLB- Takeo Spikes
CB1- Jonathan Joseph
CB2- Leon Hall
CB3- Deltha O'Neal
S- Reggie Nelson
S- George Iloka

PR - Adam Jones
KR - Mario Alford
K - Shayne Graham
P - Kevin Huber

Honestly, I don't see much wiggle room. KR was the only one where I thought "....I have no idea." And running back and wide receiver are the only positions that I felt genuinely bad for leaving a player off.

I am changing my CB3 because, while I think Adam Jones is the best choice, I put him at PR, so I'll pick a different third CB.
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I see a lot of Thurman's and no Pollack's.

Sad
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(07-12-2015, 10:48 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: DT- Pat Sims

LOL LOL LOL
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(07-12-2015, 11:02 PM)Fredtoast Wrote: LOL LOL LOL

Love that guy.
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