I'll give them a pass. Roughly 40% of Donald Trump supporters can't even read, so when they voted on this 'yes or no' issue, about half of them picked it, not even knowing what choice they selected.
(02-27-2016, 02:17 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: I'll give them a pass. Roughly 40% of Donald Trump supporters can't even read, so when they voted on this 'yes or no' issue, about half of them picked it, not even knowing what choice they selected.
We can joke, but the political system is color-coded for a reason.
This makes no sense at all. The poll was taken by 2000 people of the general population, not of Trumps supporters. Based on the answers I am guessing probably done down south somewhere overall. Yet they say neary 1 in 5 Trump supporters in the article wouldnt favor emancipation? That question was for the 2000 general population. Im not a Trump fan, but stuff like this just irks me. For what its worth I studied political science at OSU taking a couple of classes specifically on statistical analysis of polling. This article is just rubbish unless they produce an actual poll of Trump supporters specifically.
Quote: Donald Trump: ‘It would be very unfair’ to disavow KKK and David Duke until I ‘do research on them’
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Sunday refused to distance himself from the Ku Klux Klan and former KKK Grand Dragon David Duke because he said that he wanted to “do research” on the groups supporting him.
Last week, the Anti-Defamation League called on Trump to repudiate white supremacist groups and “publicly condemn their racism” after Duke endorsed him, saying that white people who did not vote for Trump had committed “treason to your heritage.”
On Sunday, CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Trump if he was willing to say that he did not want Duke’s vote “or that of other white supremacists.”
“I don’t know anything about David Duke,” Trump insisted. “I don’t know anything about what you are even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So, I don’t know. I mean, did he endorse me or what’s going on?”
“Because I know nothing about David Duke, I know nothing about white supremacists,” he added. “And so, you are asking me a question that I’m supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about.”
Tapper pressed: “Would you just say, unequivocally, you condemn them and you don’t want their support?”
“Well, I have to look at the group,” Trump replied. “I mean, I don’t know what group you’re talking about. You wouldn’t want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about. I’d have to look. If you would send me a list of the groups, I will do research on them, and certainly I would disavow if I thought that there was something wrong.”
“The Ku Klux Klan,” Tapper interrupted.
“You may have some groups in there that are totally fine, and it would be very unfair,” Trump continued. “So, give me a list of groups and I’ll let you know.”
“Okay, I’m just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here but…,” Tapper noted.
“Honestly, I don’t know David Duke,” Trump remarked. “I don’t believe I’ve ever met him. I’m pretty sure I didn’t meet him, and I just don’t know anything about him.”
Watch the video below from CNN’s State of the Union, broadcast Feb. 28, 2016.
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In fairness, Trump may not support the KKK. He may just be so ignorant he doesn't know who David Duke is.
I'm not sure which is worse.
But it does make you wonder how he's going to handle foreign policy. "Assad? Who's Assad? Never met the guy. Can't say if he's bad. Is he talking about me? What did he say? It's about my hair, isn't it?"
(02-29-2016, 11:25 AM)Benton Wrote: In fairness, Trump may not support the KKK. He may just be so ignorant he doesn't know who David Duke is.
I'm not sure which is worse.
But it does make you wonder how he's going to handle foreign policy. "Assad? Who's Assad? Never met the guy. Can't say if he's bad. Is he talking about me? What did he say? It's about my hair, isn't it?"
I heard that today he blamed "poor audio" for why he couldn't answer the question.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Quote:Donald Trump tells TODAY's Matt Lauer and Savannah Guthrie he's "disavowed" former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and blamed a "very bad earpiece" for his earlier inability to repeatedly repudiate the group.
Trump claimed he believed CNN anchor Jake Tapper was asking him about "various groups" and not just the KKK during a Sunday interview. PLAY VIDEO
"I'm sitting in a house in Florida, with a very bad earpiece that they gave me, and you could hardly hear what he was saying," he said. "What I heard was 'various groups.' And I don't mind disavowing anybody and I disavowed David Duke."
Trump fell into the racially charged controversy over the weekend. He first disavowed Duke during a news conference last Friday, but then he claimed he didn't know enough about the former KKK grand wizard to make such a call when asked about it two days later during the CNN interview. He also refused several chances to reject the support of Duke's white supremacist supporters.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
Maybe Trump supporter (or members of South Carolina general population or whatever) just opposed the Emancipation Proclamation because it did not free ALL the slaves.
Quote:Black students ejected from Trump rally in Ga.
Jennifer Jacobs, The Des Moines Register7:56 a.m. EST March 1, 2016
(Photo: Jennifer Jacobs, USA TODAY)
VALDOSTA, Ga. — About 30 black students who were standing silently at the top of the bleachers at Donald Trump’s rally here Monday night were escorted out by Secret Service agents who said the presidential candidate had requested their removal before he began speaking.
The sight of the students, who were visibly upset, being led outside by law enforcement officials created a stir at a university that was a whites-only campus until 1963.
“We didn’t plan to do anything,” said a tearful Tahjila Davis, a 19-year-old mass media major, who was among the Valdosta State University students who was removed. “They said, 'This is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.' But I paid my tuition to be here.” Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks in an email late Monday night denied that the students were shown the door "at the request of the candidate."
"There is no truth to this whatsoever," Hicks said, adding that "the campaign had no knowledge of this incident."
Trump has been regularly heckled by protesters at his campaign rallies, but tensions have increased after he came under fire on Sunday for not immediately condemning support from a prominent white supremacist.
Security scuffles with photographer at Trump rally
Earlier Monday, some black students at another Trump campaign rally, on the campus of Radford University in Virginia, were led out by Secret Service after they began chanting: “No more hate! No more hate! Let's be equal, let's be great!"
The two campus rallies took place just one day before high-stakes Super Tuesday, when 11 states hold GOP contests, including a collection of southern states. Trump is poised to lock down enough delegates to give him a sizable – and possibly insurmountable – lead over his GOP rivals. Donald Trump signs autographs during a rally at Radford University in Virginia on Feb. 29, 2016. (Photo: Steve Helber, AP)
During his remarks in Valdosta, Trump said he’s leading a movement. “I’m just a messenger,” he said.
Later, Trump said his whole life has been about making money, but "now I’m going to be greedy for the United States,” as the audience roared. “I’m going to take, take, take and we’re going to become rich again.”
Karen Clendenin, 58, a victims advocate in the local district attorney’s office, said she was very impressed and that she’ll vote for Trump on Tuesday in Georgia's primary. Clendenin said she wore her “Trump” T-shirt Monday even though she was “a little embarrassed.”
“So many people at work say, ‘Oh, no, we can’t have him. He’s not sensitive enough,’” she said. “But with the condition our country is in today, we’ve got to have somebody who’s not afraid.”
The students who were asked to leave quietly followed Secret Service agents outside, but then argued with Valdosta police officers who politely, but firmly, told them they needed to leave the grounds of the Trump event, held at the school’s PE complex.
Davis rested her forehead on the shoulder of her friend Leah Sheppard, a 20-year-old criminal justice major, and cried. “I don’t understand why they would do something like that,” Davis said. “I have not experienced any racism on this campus until now.”
After a barrage of criticism for failing to denounce support from former Ku Klux Klanleader David Duke during a CNN interview broadcast Sunday, Trump Monday morning said the problem was that he had difficulty hearing Tapper’s question because of the “very bad earpiece” CNN had given him.
USA TODAY
Trump blames bad television ear piece for KKK comments
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/29/donald-trump-marco-rubio-david-duke-ku-klux-klan/81101906/] “I think he’s ignorant,” said Clinesha Sims, an 18-year-old biology major who wasn’t among the students escorted out by security. Sims said she intended to stay seated throughout Trump’s speech.
“Sometimes silence says more than words,” she said.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
You would think the Trump campaign, if innocent, would do more than say, 'Wasn't us." You'd think they'd try to find out what happened and who is responsible.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
Lol..no irony here. I know liberals side of the story, you spew it here every day.
And when you don't like when I shoot you down, you do as liberals do and get all snarky.
Happens all the time.
If the Secret Service removed every black person, I'd be outraged.
I have to believe there was probable cause, as they deal with these issues all the time.
If I'm not mistaken, they've removed BLM activists from Obama speeches.
I'm sure they have strict protocol and are audited on it frequently.
Quote:IN TWO DEPOSITIONS taken over the last three months, Donald Trump acknowledged under oath that he had no role in selecting Trump University’s instructors, despite claiming in a promotional video that they “are all people that are handpicked by me.”
Trump University, a now-defunct sales ploy that promised to teach Donald Trump’s real estate “secrets” to enrollees and make them rich in the process, has become a flashpoint in the Republican presidential primary debates. In last night’s debate in Detroit, for instance, Sen. Marco Rubio lit into Donald Trump over the “handpicked” instructors. Trump retorted with a fabrication, claiming that the Better Business Bureau had given Trump University an A rating. As Rubio pointed out in the exchange, the most recent rating was a D minus.
A critical part of Trump University’s sales pitch to prospective students was the claim that Donald Trump personally selected the program’s instructors — a claim repeated over and over in the company’s marketing literature. Trump University’s direct mail advertising included letters with Trump’s signature on them that claimed that Trump University students would receive guidance from Trump’s “handpicked instructors and mentors.”
At live events, Trump University instructors recited speeches from a company-authorized script that read, in part, “I remember one time Mr. Trump said to us over dinner.” In a memorandum to the court submitted just one week ago, Trump University’s attorneys reference “instructors, who were selected based on Mr. Trump’s criteria and input.” The mantra about Trump’s “handpicked instructors” was a critical part of the recruitment strategy for a get-rich-quick scheme whose appeal centered entirely on Donald Trump’s personal reputation as a real estate business virtuoso.
But in a brief filed yesterday in a class-action lawsuit, attorneys representing thousands of former students revealed that in a video recorded deposition, Trump “confessed under oath that he did nothandpick a single TU live events instructor.” Trump further “acknowledged that other instructors’ presentations showed they lied to students about their connections to him.”
ot only did Trump have nothing to do with selecting instructors, “he personally did nothing to confirm their purported qualifications” and “could not identify a single live events instructor or mentor by name or pick one out of a photo lineup,” according to the brief. (For his part, Trump claimed that the reason he never personally interviewed even his top instructors was that he had heard that the school was doing well, and thus deemed it unnecessary.)
Many of the “handpicked” instructors have testified that they have never met Trump. In the depositions, Trump was unable to even affirm whether his instructors had ever bought or sold real estate before.
...
The brief, filed in federal district court in San Diego, further asserts that Donald Trump admitted under oath that he retains no real estate techniques beyond what has been published in his books. In other words, students who paid as much as $60,000 to Trump University over the course of a year could have gotten the exact same information through a $10 book purchased on Amazon.
In 2010, Trump University changed its name to “Trump Entrepreneur Initiative,” five years after the New York State Education Department warned the company that its use of the “university” moniker without an NYSED license was unlawful. In Trump’s deposition, he admitted to having known that the company was out of compliance with the law even as it continued to operate under the “Trump University” brand name, presenting itself as an elite educational institution on par with the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.
The new brief adds to the abundance of evidence that Trump University was, essentially, a high-pressure sales racket aimed at bilking gullible people, many of them senior citizens, out of tens of thousands of dollars apiece. The original complaint in the suit describes its practices in detail:
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Donald Trump says his economic plans would save the government money and reduce the deficit. But in tonight’s Fox News debate, moderator Chris Wallace made it perfectly clear that his numbers don’t even begin to add up.
And Trump, insanely, continued to say that they do—and very nearly ended up insisting that he could cut $300 billion out of $78 billion in spending. Donald Trump's attempted defense of his plan was, instead, a demonstration of why it wouldn't work.
Wallace began by noting that Donald Trump’s tax plan wouldincrease the deficit* by a whopping $10 trillion, and that Trump generally dismisses this concern by saying that much of that could be made up by the elimination of waste, fraud, and abuse. So what, specifically, Wallace asked, would Trump cut?
Here’s the relevant part of Trump’s answer:
Quote:Department of Education. We're cutting Common Core. We're getting rid of Common Core. We're bringing education locally. Department of Environmental Protection. We are going to get rid are of it in almost every form. We're going to have little tidbits left but we're going to take a tremendous amount out.
We have various other things. If you look at the IRS, if you look at every single agency, we can cut it down, and I mean really cut it down and save. The waste, fraud, and abuse is massive.
Okay, fine. Cut the Department of Education entirely. Eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency (we’ll assume that’s what he meant by "Department of Environmental Protection").
Even if you managed to completely cut all spending related to those entire departments, it still wouldn't even begin to eliminate the deficit we already have. As Wallace went on to note, this year’s deficit alone is $544 billion. Trump’s tax plan would add an additional $10 trillion in deficits over the next years. Wallace put this to Trump, telling him, "your numbers don’t add up, sir."
Tellingly, Trump responded by shifting subjects and bringing up drug costs:
Quote:Let me explain something. Because of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies -- because of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are not mandated to bid properly, they have hundreds of billions of dollars in waste.
We don't bid properly. We don't have proper bidding procedures. The reason we don't is because they take care of all of the senators, all of the congressman, and they don't bid. They don't go out to bid.
At which point Wallace pointed out that Trump’s numbers—and there’s no other way to put this—are complete and utter nonsense. Here’s the full exchange, via The Washington Post’s transcript:
Quote:TRUMP: Take a look -- excuse me. You are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars...
WALLACE: No, you are not.
TRUMP: ... if we went out to the proper bid. Of course you are.
WALLACE: No, you're not, sir. Let's put up full screen number 2.
You say that Medicare could save $300 billion a year negotiating lower drug prices. But Medicare total only spends $78 billion a year on drugs. Sir, that's the facts. You are talking about saving more money on Medicare prescription drugs...
TRUMP: I'm saying saving through negotiation throughout the economy, you will save $300 billion a year.
WALLACE: But that doesn't really cut the federal deficit.
TRUMP: And that's a huge -- of course it is. We are going to buy things for less money. Of course it is. That works out...
WALLACE: That's the only money that we buy -- the only drugs that we pay for is through Medicare.
TRUMP: I'm not only talking about drugs, I'm talking about other things. We will save $300 billion a year if we properly negotiate. We don't do that. We don't negotiate. We don't negotiate anything.
So, to review, here is the structure of the exchange: Wallace asks Trump how he would offset the deficit increases incurred by his tax plan. Trump says waste, fraud, and abuse. Wallace asks Trump to be specific about cuts. Trump says he'd cut the Department of Education, and the EPA. Wallace says that even if you eliminate those programs entirely, it doesn’t even come close to offsetting Trump's deficit increase. Trump doesn’t respond directly, changes the subject, and brings up drug costs. Wallace points out that Trump’s numbers on drug costs are also completely untethered from reality.
And then Trump insists—well, it’s not totally clear what he ends up saying. But no matter what, it's absurd.
It’s possible that he is just babbling incoherently, saying whatever random words come to mind. ("I'm not only talking about drugs, I'm talking about other things.") It’s possible that he’s trying to argue that when he claims $300 billion in savings, he’s talking about savings throughout the economy. ("I'm saying saving through negotiation throughout the economy, you will save $300 billion a year.") But if that’s the case, then that’s an admission that the savings he promised from government spending are imaginary. And it’s even possible that what he’s trying to say is that he will cut $300 billion a year from $78 billion in Medicare prescription drug spending. (WALLACE: "But that doesn't really cut the federal deficit." TRUMP: "And that's a huge -- of course it is.") Which would be...impressive, to say the least.
In any case, it’s clear—not that it wasn’t already—that Donald Trump has no idea what he’s talking about when it comes to the budget, the deficit, health care policy, or, probably, anything at all. And when someone points this out, Trump's response, however you interpret it, is essentially to declare war on math, language, and reality itself.
(*Yes, this is really a way of saying that it would increase total debt by this much over the course of a decade, via annual increases in the deficit. But "deficits" has become the catch-all word for describing budget gaps, and that's how it was described in the debate, so for the purposes of this post, at least, that's the language I'm going to use.)
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Quote:Donald Trump consulted with his campaign manager during the first commercial break at Thursday night's Republican debate, violating ground rules from Fox News stating that candidates would not be allowed to have contact with their campaigns, rival campaign sources told CNNMoney.
While that exchange was the clearest violation of debate rules to date, the sources said, it followed a pattern: At multiple debates, Trump has consulted with his campaign manager Corey Lewandowski backstage even though it was expressly forbidden by the networks.
Thursday night's debate in Detroit marked a new extreme, however, as Lewandowski went directly onto the stage to meet with Trump during the commercial break. As in previous debates, Fox News had explicitly informed the campaigns that candidates were not allowed to communicate with their campaign staff during commercial breaks, the sources said.
When Lewandowski was asked by Fox News staff to leave the stage, he refused to do so, according to a source at Fox News.
Lewandowski and Trump campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks did not respond to requests for comment.
Unable to get Lewandowski off the stage, Fox News representatives informed the other three campaigns that, because the Trump campaign had broken the rules, they too could consult with their candidates.
To date, Fox News is the only network to try to remedy the situation by inviting other campaigns backstage.
Representatives from the Ted Cruz and John Kasich campaigns immediately made the trek to the backstage wings, while a senior adviser to Marco Rubio did so later.
The Cruz and Kasich aides were on hand backstage to advise their candidates for all of the remaining commercial breaks, while Rubio's adviser was on hand for the last half of the debate. However, the aides spent little time interacting with their candidates, the sources said. The one exception was Rubio aide Todd Harris, who consulted with his candidate during the final commercial break.
Rowdy Detroit audience raises question: Should debates have audiences?
Exactly what Trump and Lewandowski discussed is unclear, though at one point during a break Trump handed the Fox News moderators a fax from the Better Business Bureau showing that they had upgraded their rating for Trump University to an "A" grade -- a point that Trump had tried to make repeatedly while being asked to defend the "D-" rating that the University received in 2010.
Your anger and ego will always reveal your true self.
(02-27-2016, 12:30 PM)Vlad Wrote: I know. Because learning there's another side to the story hurts people like you.
(03-01-2016, 11:26 AM)Vlad Wrote: Lol..no irony here. I know liberals side of the story, you spew it here every day.
And when you don't like when I shoot you down, you do as liberals do and get all snarky.
Case in point this last exchange.
You... would be better off making posts without the word "you" in them.
Consider this a warning as these posts were prior to our discussion yesterday about getting personal. The Mods tolerance for this has reached its end.
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