Elizabeth Warren was just silenced on the Senate floor for quoting Coretta Scott King

[GMDino]

https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-was-just-silenced-on-the-senate-floor-her-crime-was-quoting-coretta-scott-king-d000a470c6b4#.gfe0tpmkz

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Majority Leader Mitch McConnell used a parliamentary procedure to silence Sen. Elizabeth Warren in the middle of a speech critical of Sen. Jeff Sessions, Trump’s pick to be the next attorney general.[/color]



[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]McConnell claimed Warren broke the rules of decorum by quoting a letter from Coretta Scott King, Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow, opposing Sessions’ nomination to be a federal judge in 1986.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]I[/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]n the letter, King wrote that Sessions “used the power of his office as United States Attorney to intimidate and chill the free exercise of the ballot by citizens.” Among other things, Sessions attempted to “intimidate and frighten elderly black voters,” King added.[/color]
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]McConnell said that, by quoting Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow, Warren “impugned the motives and conduct of our colleague from Alabama.” He then invoked Rule 19 to force Warren to stop speaking.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The rule is intended to encourage senators to be polite to each other. But McConnell used it squelch debate about a man nominated to be the next Attorney General of the United States.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Warren objected, saying she was “surprised that the words of Coretta Scott King were not suitable for debate in the United States Senate.” She asked to continue her remarks. McConnell objected.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]“The senator will take her seat,” the chair, Sen. Steve Daines, commanded.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The final vote of Sessions’ nomination is expected to take place on Wednesday. Democrats are holding the floor for 30 hours in a final effort to oppose his nomination.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]UPDATE (2/7, 10PM): The Senate votes to uphold the rule of the chair and silence Elizabeth Warren:[/color]

[Vas Deferens]

Sessions must have some terrible stuff on Cruz and mcturkeyneck they way they stick up for his backwoods ass.

[*bfine32*]

Sessions is the most unqualified choice to be AG ever.

As to the silencing: She was warned once, but thought she didn't have to listen. Libs are learning a hard lesson. As the Stones said: "You can't always get what you want".


Here's a relevant joke I'm sure you all will appreciate:

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?

Should have listened the first time.

[Vas Deferens]

(02-08-2017, 01:31 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Sessions is the most unqualified choice to be AG ever.

As to the silencing: She was warned once, but thought she didn't have to listen. Libs are learning a hard lesson. As the Stones said: "You can't always get what you want".


Here's a relevant joke I'm sure you all will appreciate:

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?

Should have listened the first time.

What do you call the guy washing his dick in the airport sink?

A sex offender.

[Rotobeast]

(02-08-2017, 01:59 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: What do you call the guy washing his dick in the airport sink?

A sex offender.

But.....
He does have a porn-stache.
Isn't that a license to perform said action ?

I think we need pics, for a ruling.

My money is on the Freddie Mercury look.

[Belsnickel]

To the right, this will seen as obstinance and disrespect by Warren. To the left, it has elevated her status.

It's politics, nothing more.

[Griever]

(02-08-2017, 01:10 AM)GMDino Wrote: https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-was-just-silenced-on-the-senate-floor-her-crime-was-quoting-coretta-scott-king-d000a470c6b4#.gfe0tpmkz

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Majority Leader Mitch McConnell used a parliamentary procedure to silence Sen. Elizabeth Warren in the middle of a speech critical of Sen. Jeff Sessions, Trump’s pick to be the next attorney general.[/color]



[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]McConnell claimed Warren broke the rules of decorum by quoting a letter from Coretta Scott King, Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow, opposing Sessions’ nomination to be a federal judge in 1986.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]I[/color][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]n the letter, King wrote that Sessions “used the power of his office as United States Attorney to intimidate and chill the free exercise of the ballot by citizens.” Among other things, Sessions attempted to “intimidate and frighten elderly black voters,” King added.[/color]
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]McConnell said that, by quoting Martin Luther King Jr.’s widow, Warren “impugned the motives and conduct of our colleague from Alabama.” He then invoked Rule 19 to force Warren to stop speaking.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The rule is intended to encourage senators to be polite to each other. But McConnell used it squelch debate about a man nominated to be the next Attorney General of the United States.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Warren objected, saying she was “surprised that the words of Coretta Scott King were not suitable for debate in the United States Senate.” She asked to continue her remarks. McConnell objected.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]“The senator will take her seat,” the chair, Sen. Steve Daines, commanded.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The final vote of Sessions’ nomination is expected to take place on Wednesday. Democrats are holding the floor for 30 hours in a final effort to oppose his nomination.[/color]


[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]UPDATE (2/7, 10PM): The Senate votes to uphold the rule of the chair and silence Elizabeth Warren:[/color]

they sure are sexist

[GMDino]

(02-08-2017, 10:27 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: To the right, this will seen as obstinance and disrespect by Warren. To the left, it has elevated her status.

It's politics, nothing more.

But is is legit?

Sessions is getting approved even if he shows up with David Duke and smoking weed.

[Belsnickel]

(02-08-2017, 10:38 AM)GMDino Wrote: But is is legit?

Sessions is getting approved even if he shows up with David Duke and smoking weed.

The concerns are warranted, and I have my own views about Sessions for AG. Fact is, yes, when you look at the rules of the Senate Warren did break them. It doesn't invalidate her concerns, it just shows that right now the honeymoon period is in effect and the legislature is more about partisanship than anything else.

[Benton]

Same problem with most of Congress... she's wasting her time.

She can make all the speeches she wants, both sides vote pretty much along party lines. We just had the second most qualified cabinet member appointed (Devos) so far, and she was pushed through the process even after a laughably bad showing of why she shouldn't be near education. She doesn't understand the fundamentals of it... yet she's going forward because of party lines. No manner of speech was going to sway them from rubber stamping her.

If Warren really wants to change things, use her resources to go where misinformation starts. Instead of running to donors and the media saying McConnell is unfair and the situation is bad, come to Kentucky. Go to Litchfield and Frankfort and Mayfield, tell his supporters what the guy they keep sending back is doing. The only way to influence other Congress members — outside of dealing, which is common — is to influence their base. People in Kentucky send McConnell back. In a few years, almost none of them will care that he was rude (if that's what you want to call it) to some congresswoman from somewhere they've never been. All they'll care about is the same thing he always says — that he's bringing back coal, guns, God and lower taxes. Warren and other Democrats aren't changing anything if they're going to let him pull the wool over his voters year after year.

[Aquapod770]

Don't like Sessions, but any time Warren gets silenced that's always a good thing. :andy:

[Au165]

It's posturing for the 2018 congressional cycle. They are trying to impact public sentiment to try and influence control, which at this point isn't a bad plan. Survive for a year and see if you can't use the train wreck to win the legislator back.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-08-2017, 10:27 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: To the right, this will seen as obstinance and disrespect by Warren. To the left, it has elevated her status.

It's politics, nothing more.

Precisely this.  

(02-08-2017, 11:59 AM)Au165 Wrote: It's posturing for the 2018 congressional cycle. They are trying to impact public sentiment to try and influence control, which at this point isn't a bad plan. Survive for a year and see if you can't use the train wreck to win the legislator back.

Except the Dems are going about this in a self destructive way.  They've gone from 0-60 in less than a second and their extreme rhetoric leaves them nowhere to go.  When you start with terms like Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, impeachment and racist what do you escalate to?  By 2018 everyone but their base is going to be mortally sick of the rhetoric coming from the left.

[*wildcats forever*]

(02-08-2017, 12:43 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Precisely this.  


Except the Dems are going about this in a self destructive way.  They've gone from 0-60 in less than a second and their extreme rhetoric leaves them nowhere to go.  When you start with terms like Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, impeachment and racist what do you escalate to?  By 2018 everyone but their base is going to be mortally sick of the rhetoric coming from the left.

Frankly, I'm sick of it all. Left, right, foreign, domestic ...... you name it. The finger-pointing, name-calling nonsense is the Country's undoing. Wake me when reason and civility returns to the table, though I suspect I'll be taking a long nap. 

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-08-2017, 12:53 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: Frankly, I'm sick of it all. Left, right, foreign, domestic ...... you name it. The finger-pointing, name-calling nonsense is the Country's undoing. Wake me when reason and civility returns to the table, though I suspect I'll be taking a long nap. 

Agreed.  It'll take an extraordinary personality to get that done though, someone who actually cares about the issues that both sides care about and doesn't condescend to the other.  Obama was a good president overall, but he was just as guilty of this as anyone, just not as overtly.  See his bitter people who cling to guns and religion comment.

[GMDino]

(02-08-2017, 01:00 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Agreed.  It'll take an extraordinary personality to get that done though, someone who actually cares about the issues that both sides care about and doesn't condescend to the other.  Obama was a good president overall, but he was just as guilty of this as anyone, just not as overtly.  See his bitter people who cling to guns and religion comment.

It's still true.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/gunning-for-obama/

Quote:Obama (April 6): You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Blame the other guy.  Blame the stranger.  Blame someone "attacking" your rights.

Don't look for answers.

And that sentiment is now what drives most politicians on each side from local to federal elections.  Blame, fear, etc...

MY side will make it better.
THEIR side is out to get you and the things you hold dear.

It's all BS.

[*wildcats forever*]

(02-08-2017, 01:00 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Agreed.  It'll take an extraordinary personality to get that done though, someone who actually cares about the issues that both sides care about and doesn't condescend to the other.  Obama was a good president overall, but he was just as guilty of this as anyone, just not as overtly.  See his bitter people who cling to guns and religion comment.

That's where we come in by demanding such elected representatives. Not to mention putting an end to overt partisanship from all sources.

[GMDino]

(02-08-2017, 01:16 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: That's where we come in by demanding such elected representatives. Not to mention putting an end to overt partisanship from all sources.

Had a conversation with the shop employees today and they were complaining about school taxes.  Taxes that we were suppose to see relief from when the casinos got approved.  And I reminded them that they keep voting in the same people time after time when they keep lying to them.  But they won't vote for anything other than an "R" because the "democrats are going to raise our taxes." 

Very frustrating.

[Au165]

(02-08-2017, 12:43 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Except the Dems are going about this in a self destructive way.  They've gone from 0-60 in less than a second and their extreme rhetoric leaves them nowhere to go.  When you start with terms like Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, impeachment and racist what do you escalate to?  By 2018 everyone but their base is going to be mortally sick of the rhetoric coming from the left.

Disagree. I think your going to see a lot of people who voted for trump with buyers remorse, they are just trying to help make it more obvious. His record low approval ratings are a good sign for the democrats.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-08-2017, 01:09 PM)GMDino Wrote: It's still true.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/gunning-for-obama/

Yet you don't see how you're part of this exact problem.  Don't wonder why it continues, just check out a mirror.