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Trump's alleged affair
#61
Didnt he lie to America and deny this?

Sorry getting hard to keep track of the fire hose blast of shit that comes out of his mouth
#62
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/politics/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-trump.html


Quote:Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket


Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, said on Tuesday that he had paid $130,000 out of his own pocket to a pornographic-film actress who had once claimed to have had an affair with Mr. Trump.


In the most detailed explanation of the 2016 payment made to the actress, Stephanie Clifford, Mr. Cohen, who worked as a counsel to the Trump Organization for more than a decade, said he was not reimbursed for the payment.


“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”


He declined to answer several follow-up questions, including whether Mr. Trump had been aware that Mr. Cohen made the payment, why he made the payment or whether he had made similar payments to other people over the years.


Mr. Cohen has previously said that Mr. Trump has denied an affair with Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels. She has said the affair took place soon after Mr. Trump’s wife, Melania, gave birth to the couple’s son, Barron.

Mr. Cohen’s statement about what he called “a private transaction” was the first time that he had acknowledged a role in the payment, which was first reported in January by The Wall Street Journal.

Mr. Cohen said that he had given a similar statement to the Federal Election Commission in response to a complaint filed by the government watchdog group Common Cause, which contended that the payment, made through a limited liability company that Mr. Cohen established, was an in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign.

Stephanie Clifford, known as Stormy Daniels. She once claimed to have had an affair with Donald J. Trump. Credit Ethan Miller/Getty Images
Officials with Common Cause also sought to determine whether the payment was made by the Trump Organization or another person.

“The complaint alleges that I somehow violated campaign finance laws by facilitating an excess, in-kind contribution,” Mr. Cohen said in his statement. “The allegations in the complaint are factually unsupported and without legal merit, and my counsel has submitted a response to the F.E.C.”

He said he would not make any additional comments about the commission complaint “or regarding Ms. Clifford.”

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Mr. Cohen was among Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders during his time at the Trump Organization, often telling reporters during the 2016 presidential campaign that even false information about Mr. Trump could be damaging if printed. Ms. Clifford had told her story to the magazine In Touch in 2011, as well as the gossip website TheDirty.com. Both accounts were published last month after the report of the 2016 payment.

In fall 2016, Ms. Clifford was once again in discussions with news outlets, this time more mainstream. The payment from Mr. Cohen reportedly came a few weeks before Election Day — around the same time as the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape that showed Mr. Trump boasting about grabbing women’s genitals without their consent.

Ms. Clifford has not publicly denied an affair with Mr. Trump. A statement released by Mr. Cohen in her name in January denied an affair, but in interviews, she has refused to directly answer questions about it.

She is one of at least two women who claimed to have had affairs with Mr. Trump but who were kept silent through legal agreements. The other is Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model. Ms. McDougal sold her story to the company that owns The National Enquirer, but it was not printed, The Journal reported in 2016.

Hope Hicks, now the White House communications director, said at the time that the report of an affair was “totally untrue” and that the Trump campaign had “no knowledge” of any payment to Ms. McDougal.

They are very bad at cover ups.
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#63
Trump's lawyer paid her to not tell anyone about how Trump was telling her about Jesus or whatever stupid excuse evangelicals made up to excuse his immorality.
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#64
(02-14-2018, 09:31 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Trump's lawyer paid her to not tell anyone about how Trump was telling her about Jesus or whatever stupid excuse evangelicals made up to excuse his immorality.

This is just to cover up the $130,000 that coincidentally got transferred out of Trump campaign at the same time.  That raised a flag with the FEC.

And really that transfer seems to be perfectly legit...but Nixon Trump is overcorrecting for every perceived misdeed.
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(02-14-2018, 10:19 AM)GMDino Wrote: This is just to cover up the $130,000 that coincidentally got transferred out of Trump campaign at the same time.  That raised a flag with the FEC.

And really that transfer seems to be perfectly legit...but Nixon Trump is overcorrecting for every perceived misdeed.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_8_current_clients_specific_rules.html


Quote:(e) A lawyer shall not provide financial assistance to a client in connection with pending or contemplated litigation
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(02-14-2018, 10:48 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_8_current_clients_specific_rules.html

I'm probably missing something obvious, but i'm curious as to why they can't do that.  
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(02-14-2018, 10:48 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_8_current_clients_specific_rules.html

Yeah I saw this tweeted by someone this morning.  

I said on another board the rubes didn't even vote for SMART crooks.
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(02-14-2018, 11:01 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious, but i'm curious as to why they can't do that.  

They're allowed to cover court costs and other costs associated with litigation (if reimbursed) or costs if their client is indigent. 

My guess is it has to do with covering up where money comes from or lawyers engaging in litigation to further a personal interest by promising their client they'd cover any costs beyond standard court costs.

Hopefully Fred can chime in on this.
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#70
(02-14-2018, 02:05 PM)GMDino Wrote:
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forgot what it was like to have a president and first lady actually love each other....
People suck
#71
(02-14-2018, 02:09 PM)Griever Wrote: forgot what it was like to have a president and first lady actually love each other....

But Obama and Trump are "Exactly alike".   Ninja
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#73
(02-14-2018, 03:17 PM)GMDino Wrote:

The miserable witch
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(02-14-2018, 03:28 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The miserable witch

Two things:

1) I was happy at least someone in the WH mentioned Black History Month (The POTUS did about an hour ago though.)

2) Why would you call her that?
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#75
(02-14-2018, 03:35 PM)GMDino Wrote: Two things:

1) I was happy at least someone in the WH mentioned Black History Month (The POTUS did about an hour ago though.)

2) Why would you call her that?

Oh you were complimenting her.  
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(02-14-2018, 03:45 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Oh you were complimenting her.  

I was noting that on Valentine's day that was the only tweet...and at least it was a good one.
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#77
Trump only hires the BEST!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/stormy-daniels-attorney-backs-trump-lawyer-michael-cohens-claim-130g-payout-came-from-personal-funds.html


Quote:A lawyer for Stormy Daniels has corroborated Trump attorney Michael Cohen's claim that he paid the porn star $130,000 out of his own funds, saying in a statement the account is in "complete harmony" with what Cohen told him at the time of the 2016 transaction, The New York Times reported.


The source of the money is a subject of fevered interest by transparency groups, who have raised concerns that disclosure requirements or individual campaign contribution laws may have been violated.


The Wall Street Journal first reported in January that Cohen, a longtime Trump Organization attorney, had arranged the payment before Election Day as part of an agreement that would preclude Daniels -- whose real name is Stephanie Clifford -- from discussing a supposed sexual encounter with President Trump.


"I represented Stephanie Clifford in the Michael Cohen/Stephanie Clifford transaction," Los Angeles-based attorney Keith Davidson said in a statement. "I read today that Michael Cohen reports that the source of the $130,000 paid to Ms. Clifford was from his own personal funds. That assertion is in complete harmony with what he informed me of at the time of the transaction."


Quote:"Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly."

- Trump attorney Michael Cohen


If true, some liberal-leaning watchdog groups say, that might mean Cohen effectively made an illegally oversized, undisclosed in-kind campaign contribution to the Trump campaign.


Common Cause, one of those groups, filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission concerning Cohen's payment. 
The organization's litigation and policy vice president has said that even if the money did not come from Cohen's personal funds, an investigation is warranted to figure out who made the payment possible, the New York Times reported.
Cohen, for his part, called the allegations he had violated the law "without merit."


“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Cohen said in a statement obtained by Fox News.

The kicker?


Quote:Clifford, meanwhile, believes that Cohen has violated the nondisclosure agreement the parties reportedly signed, and now she's looking into selling her story to media outlets, the New York Times reported, citing her manager.

Cool
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#78
https://theblast.com/stormy-daniels-dress-donald-trump-dna/


Quote:Stormy Daniels Has a ‘Monica Lewinsky Dress’ from Alleged Donald Trump Affair, Will Test It for DNA


Stormy Daniels pulled a Monica Lewinsky and held on to the dress she wore to an alleged hotel rendezvous with President Donald Trump, and now we are told she’s going to get it tested for DNA to back up her story.

Sources close to Daniels tell The Blast the shimmering gold mini dress with a plunging neckline was kept in pristine condition after her alleged 2006 sexual encounter with Trump at the Lake Tahoe hotel suite.

We’re told Daniels is planning on having the dress forensically tested to search for any DNA that proves she isn’t lying about her tryst with Trump, including samples of skin, hair or … anything.

As we previously reported, Daniels has notified Trump’s legal team that she believes a 2016 agreement has been breached between her and attorney Michael Cohen and now she is free and clear to spill all the juicy details about the infamous night.

Michael Cohen revealed this week that he had paid Daniels $130,000 out of his own pocket and tried to minimize Trump’s involvement by stating, “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly.”

If the dress story sounds familiar, that’s because it’s very similar to Monica Lewinsky keeping her stained navy-blue GAP cocktail dress after allegedly performing oral sex on President Bill Clinton in the Oval Office. The dress was part of an actual investigation and the FBI later determined to a high percentage of accuracy that Clinton’s bodily fluids were the source of the stain.

Obviously, Stormy and her legal team would need a test sample from POTUS too, but any DNA that may be extracted from her dress that could possibly prove Trump was with her in the hotel room will be a big deal.

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#79
(02-14-2018, 11:01 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious, but i'm curious as to why they can't do that.  

It is a very complicated issue,

If a lawyer loans a client money against a potential claim he then has a conflict of interest because he will not want his client to settle the case for less than he is owed.  Then the client could go to trial and get nothing.

Also have the case where a big money law firm will see a potential violation of some sort and then go "hire" clients to file claims.

But in this case why in the hell would anyone believe that this attorney would pay off Trumps debt for no reason at all?  $130K is pocket change to Trump.
#80
the lawyer prolly babysat barron one night, and got paid 130k for "babysitting"
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