Its OK now to teach religion in public schools

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(10-14-2015, 12:33 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I would not want the teacher to say it is a myth.  But the definitely need to teach the influence of all religions on culture and history.  

Religion has been one of the most influential powers in the history of mankind.  It has to be discussed and understood.  In order for people to understand why other countries and societies do what they do we have to understand the tenets and influence of their religions.

Really, I don't see much of a place for any religious teachings in school regardless of whether it's tagged as mythological or not.  Classrooms are a place to learn and become more educated.  We don't need to appease individual religious groups by letting their mythologies in.

Touching on religion in a historical context is one thing. Having to explain insane creation myths is another.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-21-2015, 01:03 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Perhaps he's referring to gay rights ?

Isn't acceptance of others sexuality part of being civilized?

[StLucieBengal]

For all you defenders of the peaceful and loving El Salvador

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34124090

And for those who think Central America is nothing but a paradise.

Quote:According to a 2012 UN report, Central America was one of the most violent regions in the world with Honduras the most violent country (with 91.4 homicides per 100,000 people) along with high rates in El Salvador, Guatemala and Belize.

[treee]

I've said this before and I'll say it again. It's okay to teach *about* religion and spirituality, just not to teach it as if that is what is "correct". That should be for the student to decide.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 09:57 PM)treee Wrote: I've said this before and I'll say it again. It's okay to teach *about* religion and spirituality, just not to teach it as if that is what is "correct". That should be for the student to decide.

Exactly. Students and their parents can decide which religion is best for them if any.

[Rotobeast]

(10-22-2015, 09:55 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn't acceptance of others sexuality part of being civilized?

Yes.
That's what the map shows.
I gave you an opportunity to take it and run with it....lol
Annnnnnnnddddd....... it's gone.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 10:04 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Yes.
That's what the map shows.
I gave you an opportunity to take it and run with it....lol
Annnnnnnnddddd....... it's gone.

Haha I thought it spoke for itself. But it was nice to see my shadows trying to respond to your post lol

[BmorePat87]

(10-22-2015, 09:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: For all you defenders of the peaceful and loving El Salvador

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34124090

And for those who think Central America is nothing but a paradise.  

Day 785 of teaching in public schools and none of my Salvadorian students have tried to kill me yet. 

[Rotobeast]

(10-22-2015, 10:08 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Day 785 of teaching in public schools and none of my Salvadorian students have tried to kill me yet. 

How much has that cost you ?


:jk:

[treee]

(10-22-2015, 10:03 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Exactly.   Students and their parents can decide which religion is best for them if any.

So... not exactly then?

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 10:08 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Day 785 of teaching in public schools and none of my Salvadorian students have tried to kill me yet. 

how long have they been here? What age were they came here?

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 10:55 PM)treee Wrote: So... not exactly then?

So you are against children and their parents making a family decision?

[treee]

(10-22-2015, 10:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So you are against children and their parents making a family decision?

The way you phrased it made it sound like it was the parent's decision what religion a kid is. I don't agree with that.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 11:00 PM)treee Wrote: The way you phrased it made it sound like it was the parent's decision what religion a kid is. I don't agree with that.

Well do parents not direct/guide their children in almost every decision?

Religion is up to the individual. At some point we all decide for ourselves.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-22-2015, 09:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: For all you defenders of the peaceful and loving El Salvador

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34124090

And for those who think Central America is nothing but a paradise.  

Name one person who defended El Salvador or claimed it was a paradise.

I pointed out El Salvador is a Christian nation.  Full of Christians.  Not every single one of them is a savage like you have claimed repeatedly.  Additionally, claiming everyone from a country, region, continent, etc is a savage for no other reason than their location on the map is nothing more than an uneducated stereotype.  Moreover, it is just plain ol' stupid.  Now let's watch the anti-PC crowd complain about me not being PC for using the term "stupid."

[StLucieBengal]

(10-22-2015, 11:41 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Name one person who defended El Salvador or claimed it was a paradise.

I pointed out El Salvador is a Christian nation.  Full of Christians.  Not every single one of them is a savage like you have claimed repeatedly.  Additionally, claiming everyone from a country, region, continent, etc is a savage for no other reason than their location on the map is nothing more than an uneducated stereotype.  Moreover, it is just plain ol' stupid.  Now let's watch the anti-PC crowd complain about me not being PC for using the term "stupid."

Not sure what being christian has to do with any of this .... But whatever ...

That region has fostered a culture of lawlessness and violence for decades. the government either 1. Does not care if their people are violent, 2. Refuse to end the violence because they are taking bribes or getting some sort of profit off the violence.

[BmorePat87]

(10-22-2015, 10:56 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What age were they came here?

Day 786 and my Salvadorian students already have a better grasp of the English language than Lucie does. 

[Rotobeast]

I wonder how much colonialism has to do with these countries/areas becoming violent ?
I suppose if all the resources were raided and there were no honest work to be had, I would end up doing whatever it took to take care of my family.

Just throwing an extra perspective in there.

[GMDino]

(10-22-2015, 11:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not sure what being christian has to do with any of this ....  But whatever ...  

That region has fostered a culture of lawlessness and violence for decades.   the government either 1. Does not care if their people are violent, 2. Refuse to end the violence because they are taking bribes or getting some sort of profit off the violence.

I assume you mean the southern US?

[BmorePat87]

(10-23-2015, 07:31 AM)GMDino Wrote: I assume you mean the southern US?

The parallels are interesting. El Salvador was ruled by land owning elites and the poorest of Salvadorians did not have their own land to live on. Eventually there was a civil war and violence continues in the 20 years since. The South was controlled by land owning elites and the poorest (slaves) had no land themselves that was their home. After our Civil War, violence continued in that region for decades. Some would argue the violence lasted for 100 years. 

(10-23-2015, 07:27 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: I wonder how much colonialism has to do with these countries/areas becoming violent ?
I suppose if all the resources were raided and there were no honest work to be had, I would end up doing whatever it took to take care of my family.

Just throwing an extra perspective in there.

Look at every region with violence. The commonality is that they were all colonized. Ethnic groups in Africa and the Middle East were denied independence until long after Europeans had drawn their own lines that ignored historic feuds.

South America is a bit different given the fact that colonists did not preserve racial purity. You ended up having this social caste system based on where you were born and what percent of European you were. You had a series of wars for independence that occurred close to each other, but the end result was still just social elites ruling these places and the indigenous people being abused. Then it becomes a hotbed for trade goods in the late 1800s and 1900s when globalization starts, and these elites begin an even fiercer control of their people. After that, natural civil wars occur. Throw in Western nations supporting dictators to prevent socialism or communism and you have a recipe for disaster that will last for years.