Jesus was a Socialist--LOLWUT?

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-29-2016, 08:46 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Jesus was a Democratic Socialist, just like Bernie.

Although I'm not sure Jesus would be onboard with the current level of entitlements - just basic needs.

Another difference is the Church only wanted 10% of your money - the govt wants much, much more.

You're probably correct this one time. I doubt Jesus would be down with entitlements which allowed Trump to declare an almost $1 billion dollar loss on casinos to avoid taxes for almost two decades. 

[Benton]

(10-29-2016, 08:46 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Jesus was a Democratic Socialist, just like Bernie.

Although I'm not sure Jesus would be onboard with the current level of entitlements - just basic needs.

Another difference is the Church only wanted 10% of your money - the govt wants much, much more.

Jesus didn't advocate tithing. He did advocate giving. And really much more than 10%.

[JustWinBaby]

(10-30-2016, 02:07 AM)Benton Wrote: And really much more than 10%.

That's entirely debatable.  The Church asks for 10%.

[JustWinBaby]

(10-30-2016, 01:41 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You're probably correct this one time. I doubt Jesus would be down with entitlements which allowed Trump to declare an almost $1 billion dollar loss on casinos to avoid taxes for almost two decades. 

I doubt Jesus would quibble over taxes....and Trump was still paying at least, on average, 15% capital gains....which is more than the 10% tithe.

And I'm almost always correct. You may not like it, or you may not know better. But that doesn't make me wrong.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-30-2016, 03:15 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I doubt Jesus would quibble over taxes....and Trump was still paying at least, on average, 15% capital gains....which is more than the 10% tithe.

And I'm almost always correct.  You may not like it, or you may not know better.  But that doesn't make me wrong.

You should start charging a cover. Smart businessman like you should know you don't give away comedy gold for free. 

[*Nately120*]

What makes you think Trump isn't actually the second coming of Jesus?

[Harmening]

(10-30-2016, 03:15 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I doubt Jesus would quibble over taxes....and Trump was still paying at least, on average, 15% capital gains....which is more than the 10% tithe.

And I'm almost always correct.  You may not like it, or you may not know better.  But that doesn't make me wrong.

You sound like Donald Trump himself.  

[Benton]

(10-30-2016, 03:13 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: That's entirely debatable.  The Church asks for 10%.

go sell your possessions and give it to the poor, for you will have treasure in heaven.

but you are right about ot churches asking for a 10% tithe

[*michaelsean*]

Jesus had no concern with government. Everything He said was directed at the individual. Remember why He was here.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-31-2016, 04:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Jesus had no concern with government.  Everything He said was directed at the individual.  Remember why He was here.

What about "Render unto Caesar"?

[*michaelsean*]

(10-31-2016, 06:41 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: What about "Render unto Caesar"?

You have to read the whole passage.  They try to trap Him, and He turns it on them.  He says sure give Caesar what is his, but make sure to give to God what is His. Oh and everything comes from God.  

Even if you read it as mainly liberals try to push it, it certainly isn't promoting any sort of government.  Even evil capitalistic societies pay taxes.  
As Matt pointed out, Jesus vision of an ideal society would be a non-governmental purely communist society.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-31-2016, 08:51 PM)michaelsean Wrote: You have to read the whole passage.  They try to trap Him, and He turns it on them.  He says sure give Caesar what is his, but make sure to give to God what is His. Oh and everything comes from God.  

Even if you read it as mainly liberals try to push it, it certainly isn't promoting any sort of government.  Even evil capitalistic societies pay taxes.  
As Matt pointed out, Jesus vision of an ideal society would be a non-governmental purely communist society.

By liberals, do you mean Protestants?  Because I only know how Christians try to push it. 


https://www.google.com/amp/s/gotquestions.org/amp/taxes-Bible.html?client=safari

http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/f/biblepayingtax.htm

http://biblereasons.com/paying-taxes/

https://www.openbible.info/topics/paying_taxes

https://www.openbible.info/topics/paying_taxes

[*michaelsean*]

(11-01-2016, 08:50 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: By liberals, do you mean Protestants?  Because I only know how Christians try to push it. 


https://www.google.com/amp/s/gotquestions.org/amp/taxes-Bible.html?client=safari

http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/f/biblepayingtax.htm

http://biblereasons.com/paying-taxes/

https://www.openbible.info/topics/paying_taxes

https://www.openbible.info/topics/paying_taxes

No I mean they like to bring up passages that they think say something about Jesus that agrees with them.  I wasn't including you if that's what you thought.  

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(11-01-2016, 08:57 AM)michaelsean Wrote: No I mean they like to bring up passages that they think say something about Jesus that agrees with them.  I wasn't including you if that's what you thought.  

No, that's not what I thought. I think I misunderstood what you meant. 

[Au165]

I am not religious, but always find these things interesting. Jesus was possibly black, or at least a shade of brown, yet every picture you see of him in western society is white. Not just white in fact, but basically the definition of Anglo Saxon. Funny how people can make him whatever they want him to be.

[*michaelsean*]

(11-02-2016, 09:12 AM)Au165 Wrote: I am not religious, but always find these things interesting. Jesus was possibly black, or at least a shade of brown, yet every picture you see of him in western society is white. Not just white in fact, but basically the definition of Anglo Saxon. Funny how people can make him whatever they want him to be.

I think that's a thing of the past.  People are aware that Jesus wasn't a white dude.  I'm 49, and was in Catholic school from 1st grade on, and we were always taught that Jesus would have looked like your average Middle Easterner.  I don't know if that's correct or not, but we knew He wasn't a white guy.

[Au165]

(11-02-2016, 09:25 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I think that's a thing of the past.  People are aware that Jesus wasn't a white dude.  I'm 49, and was in Catholic school from 1st grade on, and we were always taught that Jesus would have looked like your average Middle Easterner.  I don't know if that's correct or not, but we knew He wasn't a white guy.

Which makes some of the blatant racism by some who identify as christian comical.

[djam]

(10-28-2016, 10:40 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I am basing it on the fact that everything Jesus said disavows the accumulation of wealth.  All he talked about was sharing everything with the poor.

Where does Jesus say "It is okay for the government to violate my teachings"?  Where does he say "I want society to follow these rules, but I want the governments who control society to do the exact opposite."?

Hitler was a socialist. Would Jesus had supported him? There are many others --"democratically elected" socialist even, who have gone on to kill thousands and millions of people. 

When governments implement socialism, its based entirely on theft of money from people who work hard to earn it, and redistributing it (after they take a nice size chunk for themselves of course) the way the governments sees fit, not the people. There is nothing Godly in that or even close. It "feels" good to the over-emotional but ignorant souls like yours an other statist, Fred. But it does no good and never has. 

[Rotobeast]

(11-02-2016, 09:12 AM)Au165 Wrote: I am not religious, but always find these things interesting. Jesus was possibly black, or at least a shade of brown, yet every picture you see of him in western society is white. Not just white in fact, but basically the definition of Anglo Saxon. Funny how people can make him whatever they want him to be.

He is glowing white, with The Holy Spirit.



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