(09-28-2018, 07:58 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that I might get a bit emotional, if my life's work was put in question over some false accusations. Not just that, but my entire family drug through the mud.
Meh. If he doesn't get installed, he goes back to his $200K a year federal job and his multi-million dollar home. Poor guy!
And as far as I know, only his morals have been questioned. Not his family's. Anyone targeting them is a loony. But in a high visibility position, you are gonna have loonies target you and your family. The only way to avoid it is to not seek a high vis position.
I think having the FBI look into this was the right thing to do. They have a week to investigate, plenty of time to get Judge Kavanaugh seated to the Supreme Court well before the mid terms. If he comes out clean, good for him. If the FBI can blow holes in Fords testimony, good for him, bad for her. I really don't care either way if he's seated or not. Now, if you want my opinion on who I think is more truthful, I would say Ford, and it has to do more with something Kavanaugh has said, not yesterday, but with the Fox News interview he did several days ago. He stated he would go to parties in high school, he would drink beer,sometime drink too much. He also said there were many girls there, noting wrong with that. Then he said what I think is a GIGANTIC lie, IMO. He said he remained a virgin well into college. I'm NOT saying he raped or sexually assaulted ANYONE. What I am calling BS on is the fact he was a jock, a drinker, and a partier, yet remained a virgin all through out High School and into college? If he would lie about that and I say 'IF", what else may he have lied about? C 'on Man!
(09-28-2018, 10:13 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Meh. If he doesn't get installed, he goes back to his $200K a year federal job and his multi-million dollar home. Poor guy!
And as far as I know, only his morals have been questioned. Not his family's. Anyone targeting them is a loony. But in a high visibility position, you are gonna have loonies target you and your family. The only way to avoid it is to not seek a high vis position.
Are you sure? After all of this media smearing, who wants to go before "that" judge?
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
(09-28-2018, 10:23 PM)BrownAssClown Wrote: I think having the FBI look into this was the right thing to do. They have a week to investigate, plenty of time to get Judge Kavanaugh seated to the Supreme Court well before the mid terms. If he comes out clean, good for him. If the FBI can blow holes in Fords testimony, good for him, bad for her. I really don't care either way if he's seated or not. Now, if you want my opinion on who I think is more truthful, I would say Ford, and it has to do more with something Kavanaugh has said, not yesterday, but with the Fox News interview he did several days ago. He stated he would go to parties in high school, he would drink beer,sometime drink too much. He also said there were many girls there, noting wrong with that. Then he said what I think is a GIGANTIC lie, IMO. He said he remained a virgin well into college. I'm NOT saying he raped or sexually assaulted ANYONE. What I am calling BS on is the fact he was a jock, a drinker, and a partier, yet remained a virgin all through out High School and into college? If he would lie about that and I say 'IF", what else may he have lied about? C 'on Man!
I was a virgin until I was married in March 1989 and I went to a lot of parties, smoked a lot of weed and drank a lot of Jack Daniels during my teen years and never once had sex.
EDIT: I also know people who have never taken a drug other than an aspirin or seen a porn mag or movie in all of their days. To some people, their religion, their beliefs mean a lot and will follow their church laws to the "T".
Song of Solomon 2:15
Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.
(09-28-2018, 10:13 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Meh. If he doesn't get installed, he goes back to his $200K a year federal job and his multi-million dollar home. Poor guy!
And as far as I know, only his morals have been questioned. Not his family's. Anyone targeting them is a loony. But in a high visibility position, you are gonna have loonies target you and your family. The only way to avoid it is to not seek a high vis position.
Who would appoint this Judge after the smear campaign produced. He has 0 choice but to ride this out. He will never be able to teach again, he will never be able to preside on a bench again. His name will be tarnished for life and his wife and kids will bare the brunt.
You and others can tell yourselves whatever you want to allow you to better look yourselves in the mirror, but you guys have deemed him guilty on nothing more than a baseless allegation.
Proud to say I can look in the mirror and say I'm willing to not condemn him without credible proof.
(09-28-2018, 10:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who would appoint this Judge after the smear campaign produced. He has 0 choice but to ride this out. He will never be able to teach again, he will never be able to preside on a bench again. His name will be tarnished for life and his wife and kids will bare the brunt.
You and others can tell yourselves whatever you want to allow you to better look yourselves in the mirror, but you guys have deemed him guilty on nothing more than a baseless allegation.
Proud to say I can look in the mirror and say I'm willing to not condemn him without credible proof.
(09-28-2018, 10:23 PM)BrownAssClown Wrote: I think having the FBI look into this was the right thing to do. They have a week to investigate, plenty of time to get Judge Kavanaugh seated to the Supreme Court well before the mid terms. If he comes out clean, good for him. If the FBI can blow holes in Fords testimony, good for him, bad for her. I really don't care either way if he's seated or not. Now, if you want my opinion on who I think is more truthful, I would say Ford, and it has to do more with something Kavanaugh has said, not yesterday, but with the Fox News interview he did several days ago. He stated he would go to parties in high school, he would drink beer,sometime drink too much. He also said there were many girls there, noting wrong with that. Then he said what I think is a GIGANTIC lie, IMO. He said he remained a virgin well into college. I'm NOT saying he raped or sexually assaulted ANYONE. What I am calling BS on is the fact he was a jock, a drinker, and a partier, yet remained a virgin all through out High School and into college? If he would lie about that and I say 'IF", what else may he have lied about? C 'on Man!
You've never heard Bros before Hos? Lots of guys don't want the baggage that comes with sex in HS.
(09-28-2018, 10:28 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I was a virgin until I was married in March 1989 and I went to a lot of parties, smoked a lot of weed and drank a lot of Jack Daniels during my teen years and never once had sex.
EDIT: I also know people who have never taken a drug other than an aspirin or seen a porn mag or movie in all of their days. To some people, their religion, their beliefs mean a lot and will follow their church laws to the "T".
I'm not saying it's impossible, but due to my own HS shenanigans and being a "horny teenager" I find Kavanaugh unbelieveable when he said he remained a virgin, again IMHO. I myself wasn't a drinker, but did lose my virginity at a party in a friends basement at an after game party on a friday night during football season to a girl I was seeing for about three months, I guess I was a gentleman, I waited until she was 100% ready. It was a few months before my 17th birthday. I know some have said on here "Where was Brett Kavanaughs' parents at during his drinking and partying?" I do not blame his parents at all. If my parents knew some of the stuff I pulled as a teenager, my dad would have beat my ass and my mom would've probably had me neutered.
(09-28-2018, 10:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who would appoint this Judge after the smear campaign produced. He has 0 choice but to ride this out. He will never be able to teach again, he will never be able to preside on a bench again. His name will be tarnished for life and his wife and kids will bare the brunt.
You and others can tell yourselves whatever you want to allow you to better look yourselves in the mirror, but you guys have deemed him guilty on nothing more than a baseless allegation.
Proud to say I can look in the mirror and say I'm willing to not condemn him without credible proof.
Thats why i dont get why he kept dodging the question. Do you want the fbi to investigate this? If im innocent and i think this is a giant hit job conspiracy and my name is being dragged through shit. Damn right right i want this investigated.
That was one of the easiest questions he was asked and he couldnt give a straight answer.
(09-28-2018, 08:34 PM)michaelsean Wrote: If an event that was seared into your memory occurred you may remember more. Certainly more likely than a random uneventful night out.
Eh, memory is a tricky thing. When the sympathetic nervous system is engaged, memory coding is unpredictable.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
(09-28-2018, 10:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You've never heard Bros before Hos? Lots of guys don't want the baggage that comes with sex in HS.
I thought Bros before Hos meant that you put your buddies first, not abstain from sex with girls. I know some schools had something called the "pledge" whereas some students would voluntarily sign a pledge stating that they would abstain from drugs,alcohol, and sex while in high school. I think that was something my high school may of started after I graduated in 1990, there was no "pledge" when I was there.
(09-28-2018, 08:00 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Really? I've only been drunk once but been to many parties and had a few drinks. I can't tell you everyone who was there. I can't tell you when they were. I can't tell you a lot of details beyond a couple of people and some key events. And these were parties 10-15 years ago and I had maybe two drinks the whole time during the parties.
Crazy some of the memories people have here. I didnt realize we had some savants on the boards with us. Some can remember all the parties they went to in high school. Others can remember who drove to each party.
Maybe its because i partied like kav... hell i cant say i can come close to remembering all the parties i went to and the transportation arrangements. We used to go to parties and i have no idea who lived at the houses
(09-28-2018, 11:32 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Thats why i dont get why he kept dodging the question. Do you want the fbi to investigate this? If im innocent and i think this is a giant hit job conspiracy and my name is being dragged through shit. Damn right right i want this investigated.
That was one of the easiest questions he was asked and he couldnt give a straight answer.
All he ever said was I'll do whatever this committee decides. The narrative that he tried to dodge/refused/or tried to avoid an FBI investigation is just made up.
Of course he's most likely not the badass you are. COL Jessup. But I'm not much sure how much more straight an answer he could have given.
All he ever said was I'll do whatever this committee decides. The narrative that he tried to dodge/refused/or tried to avoid an FBI investigation is just made up.
Of course he's most likely not the badass you are. COL Jessup. But I'm not much sure how much more straight an answer he could have given.
^sorry cant get the vid out of your quote
He was asked. Are you willing to ask for an FBI investigation? He couldnt answer it. People playing dodge ball do less dodging than he did.
Put yourself in his shoes. You believe you are innocent (hypothetical of course) and you believe there is a giant multi million dollar clinton conspiracy out to get you putting your family through hell. And you are asked. With the best chance to clear your name being law enforcement clearing you if any wrongdoing. Would you be willing to ask the fbi to look into this?
There is one correct answer to that question a person who belives they are innocent and has faith in our justice system can have.
(09-29-2018, 12:33 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: He was asked. Are you willing to ask for an FBI investigation? He couldnt answer it. People playing dodge ball do less dodging than he did.
Oh, I thought he said "I'll do whatever the committee wants" obviously you set me straight by posting a link where he said "I'll do whatever the committee wants".
Oh, I thought he said "I'll do whatever the committee wants" obviously you set me straight by posting a link where he said "I'll do whatever the committee wants".
again with the vid showing in your quote.
But either way. You get the point. I know trumps who didnt try dodging that hard even when it came to military service
(09-29-2018, 12:20 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Bias is also a tricky thing.
Indeed it is, but everyone has biases. I just never deny that I have mine.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
I have just amazed at the anger from the right over this. They are usually jumping up and down for investigations and in the end they are either a) going to get their guy on the SC or b) stop a guy from being on that had them completely duped.
Meanwhile the ABA is doubting Kavanaugh now. Where were they before this came up you ask? Well they flagged him for "concerns" 12 years ago.
Which kinds of pokes a hole int he right's talking point that "no one" had problems with him before the first sexual assault charge.
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