Local School Board Clown

[NATI BENGALS]

https://www.fox19.com/2022/04/28/lakota-school-board-member-accidentally-posts-porn-link-while-advocating-abstinence/

I wonder how many people like this have been unleashed on American school boards across the country after the latest conservative main stream media brainwashing campaign?

This lady sounds like a lot like Marjorie Taylor green. Just totally radicalized and 100% bought in to whatever “news” headline the conservative main stream news outlets tell them to believe.

I feel sorry for the people who have to work with her.

[basballguy]

(04-28-2022, 02:41 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: https://www.fox19.com/2022/04/28/lakota-school-board-member-accidentally-posts-porn-link-while-advocating-abstinence/

I wonder how many people  like this have been unleashed on American school boards across the country after the latest conservative main stream media brainwashing campaign?

This lady sounds like a lot like Marjorie Taylor green. Just totally radicalized and 100% bought in to whatever “news” headline the conservative main stream news outlets tell them to believe.

I feel sorry for the people who have to work with her.

Did you actually read the FB post?

I'm not sure how you determined anything she said to be "radical".  

[XenoMorph]

(04-28-2022, 02:41 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: https://www.fox19.com/2022/04/28/lakota-school-board-member-accidentally-posts-porn-link-while-advocating-abstinence/

I wonder how many people  like this have been unleashed on American school boards across the country after the latest conservative main stream media brainwashing campaign?

This lady sounds like a lot like Marjorie Taylor green. Just totally radicalized and 100% bought in to whatever “news” headline the conservative main stream news outlets tell them to believe.

I feel sorry for the people who have to work with her.

Hmmm  you sure about whos been brainwashed?

[Stewy]

(04-28-2022, 02:41 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: https://www.fox19.com/2022/04/28/lakota-school-board-member-accidentally-posts-porn-link-while-advocating-abstinence/

I wonder how many people  like this have been unleashed on American school boards across the country after the latest conservative main stream media brainwashing campaign?

This lady sounds like a lot like Marjorie Taylor green. Just totally radicalized and 100% bought in to whatever “news” headline the conservative main stream news outlets tell them to believe.

I feel sorry for the people who have to work with her.

I am so completely confused....

You're a liberal, right?  Yet you are referencing a foxnews story to get worked up about?

That would be like Brad going to MSNCB, and linking an article and getting worked up over it......oh wait he does that.

You do not want such company, do you?

[Belsnickel]

(04-28-2022, 02:50 PM)basballguy Wrote: Did you actually read the FB post?

I'm not sure how you determined anything she said to be "radical".  

Yeah, I read her FB post, and there was a lot of the right-wing extremist fear-mongering rhetoric about CRT and sex-ed. Though I wouldn't call them radical because that term is typically coupled with progressive positions, they are extremist.

[Belsnickel]

(04-28-2022, 02:56 PM)Stewy Wrote: I am so completely confused....

You're a liberal, right?  Yet you are referencing a foxnews story to get worked up about?

That would be like Brad going to MSNCB, and linking an article and getting worked up over it......oh wait he does that.

You do not want such company, do you?

It's a local Fox station, not Fox News. Different animals.

[Stewy]

(04-28-2022, 03:01 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It's a local Fox station, not Fox News. Different animals.

Oh ok.  Fair enough.

[basballguy]

(04-28-2022, 03:00 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, I read her FB post, and there was a lot of the right-wing extremist fear-mongering rhetoric about CRT and sex-ed. Though I wouldn't call them radical because that term is typically coupled with progressive positions, they are extremist.

I thoroughly enjoy seeing people refer to opinions they don't agree with as "radical" or "extreme".

Give me a break.  

Edit: elaborating a bit....this lady's positions are far from "extreme". There's a good segment of the population that support the same opinions. You can't have say (spitballing a number here) 30% of the population agree with something and call it extreme.

[Vas Deferens]

(04-28-2022, 03:52 PM)basballguy Wrote: I thoroughly enjoy seeing people refer to opinions they don't agree with as "radical" or "extreme".

Give me a break.  

Edit: elaborating a bit....this lady's positions are far from "extreme". There's a good segment of the population that support the same opinions. You can't have say (spitballing a number here) 30% of the population agree with something and call it extreme.

Ok. So ‘uninformed’ works then. While ‘stupid’ would apply, we have to respect the feelings of the less mentally capable. But I can absolutely say 30% of the population is uninformed.

[Belsnickel]

(04-28-2022, 03:52 PM)basballguy Wrote: I thoroughly enjoy seeing people refer to opinions they don't agree with as "radical" or "extreme".

Give me a break.  

Edit: elaborating a bit....this lady's positions are far from "extreme". There's a good segment of the population that support the same opinions. You can't have say (spitballing a number here) 30% of the population agree with something and call it extreme.

I don't call things extreme because I disagree with them. I call things extreme when they are extremist positions, like the current CRT rhetoric and abstinence-only initiatives. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population holds the position, no matter how uninformed or misinformed they are on the topics. They are positions rooted in right-wing extremism and I will call a spade a spade.

I have a question for you. Do you consider Medicare-for-all a radical or extreme position? I consider it to be a radical one that I actually agree with, and so do roughly 40% of Americans.

[basballguy]

(04-28-2022, 04:11 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Ok.  So ‘uninformed’ works then.  While ‘stupid’ would apply, we have to respect the feelings of the less mentally capable.   But I can absolutely say 30% of the population is uninformed.

This is a much more fair response too which would trigger a different discussion.  

[basballguy]

(04-28-2022, 04:29 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't call things extreme because I disagree with them. I call things extreme when they are extremist positions, like the current CRT rhetoric and abstinence-only initiatives. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population holds the position, no matter how uninformed or misinformed they are on the topics. They are positions rooted in right-wing extremism and I will call a spade a spade.

But now you're using your own definition of extremism.  If you want to do that, fine.  I'll just make a mental note and move on.  

(04-28-2022, 04:29 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I have a question for you. Do you consider Medicare-for-all a radical or extreme position? I consider it to be a radical one that I actually agree with, and so do roughly 40% of Americans.

It's not extreme, no.  Radical?  Perhaps?  I think when it comes to radical, you're talking about changing a way of thinking everyone has known to be the status quo for a long time.  Right now healthcare isn't free....a radical change would be making it free.  That doesn't make it "extremism" though.  

OP was using the term "radical" completely wrong and wanting to be derogatory towards the FB author instead of discussing the content of her post.  

[Belsnickel]

(04-28-2022, 04:47 PM)basballguy Wrote: But now you're using your own definition of extremism.  If you want to do that, fine.  I'll just make a mental note and move on.  

I'm actually not using my own definition of extremism. I'm using a generally accepted definition of the term in political science. Political extremism is movement based on moving a policy/program/society/whatever to an imagined (not the same as imaginary) past or "golden age," per se.

The current anti-CRT movement is a backlash to the idea that we should be cognizant of the role race played in our history to better understand it, which is all that CRT is. Same for many of the social movements there is a trend against. The movements against CRT and other efforts for social progress are aimed at returning society to a time when those things weren't acknowledged.

Abstinence-only education is based on returning society to an imagined time of morality and chastity when it comes to sex.

Those are politically extremist positions based on the way the term is defined in the social sciences.

[*michaelsean*]

(04-28-2022, 04:53 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm actually not using my own definition of extremism. I'm using a generally accepted definition of the term in political science. Political extremism is movement based on moving a policy/program/society/whatever to an imagined (not the same as imaginary) past or "golden age," per se.

The current anti-CRT movement is a backlash to the idea that we should be cognizant of the role race played in our history to better understand it, which is all that CRT is. Same for many of the social movements there is a trend against. The movements against CRT and other efforts for social progress are aimed at returning society to a time when those things weren't acknowledged.

Abstinence-only education is based on returning society to an imagined time of morality and chastity when it comes to sex.

Those are politically extremist positions based on the way the term is defined in the social sciences.

So people wanting to go back to the golden age of say unions would be extremists?  That doesn't seem right.

[Dill]

I don't find the term "extremist" very descriptive in any context.

Yesterday's extreme is today's status quo.

Yesterday's status quo is extreme today. E.g., support for segregation.

"Radical" is different. The term can be useful to describe positions which "go to the root" of
ideological positions. A radical socialist would want to socialize virtually all private industry
and private property. Even then, the term is always contextual, understood with respect to something not radical,
like mixed socialism.

Civil rights workers fighting to overcome segregation in the 1950s were "extremists" then,
but also "radicals" in that they wanted to go to the root of the proposition that all men are created
equal and make that the basis of law and policy. Feminists were even more radical if they wanted "men" to also mean "women."

"Radical" and "extremist" tend to get used interchangeably to mean "any political position far away from
the one I presently hold." If someone tells me that Bels is a "socialist" I have some idea of what the term means, just as if someone says he is a "Catholic" or a "Steeler fan," though the reference is still pretty broad.

If someone says Bels is an "extremist," I have no idea at all what that means.
I would have to make calculations based on the speaker's ideological position,
given the term itself has no fixed reference.

[NATI BENGALS]

(04-28-2022, 02:52 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Hmmm  you sure about whos been brainwashed?

They are there to do a job. She is there to fight Fox News’ war for them because she is brainwashed. She is on the school board now, if there was porn and CRT running rampant in the district she should have examples at the ready. She doesn’t. Now all she is doing is politicizing education and making a fool of herself and posting porn links.

https://www.journal-news.com/news/exclusive-documents-reveal-critical-race-theory-battle-between-lakota-leader-and-board-member/AP4266H2ONCVRPKI6PSTHBHNQI/

It’s obvious CRT is a trigger word for conservatives. So conservative main stream media created a giant boogeyman with it. What better way to get everybody outraged. Make up a problem with race and the children. It worked like magic.

Lakota school district is one of the most conservative in the Cincinnati metro area. She repeated all the conservative mainstream media talking points to get elected by an electorate very familiar with the rhetoric she parroted.

[NATI BENGALS]

(04-28-2022, 02:56 PM)Stewy Wrote: I am so completely confused....

You're a liberal, right?  Yet you are referencing a foxnews story to get worked up about?

That would be like Brad going to MSNCB, and linking an article and getting worked up over it......oh wait he does that.

You do not want such company, do you?

I’m more of a agnostic utilitarian nationalist

[StoneTheCrow]

(04-28-2022, 07:26 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I’m more of a agnostic utilitarian nationalist

Hey, it’s 2022. We’re all what we say we are. Good for you!

[*Nately120*]

(04-28-2022, 08:36 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Hey, it’s 2022. We’re all what we say we are. Good for you!

I love freedom and jesus so much imma vote for the party that promises to put the most boots on the most necks!

[BigPapaKain]

(04-28-2022, 05:57 PM)michaelsean Wrote: So people wanting to go back to the golden age of say unions would be extremists?  That doesn't seem right.

That'd have legs if those same people didn't keep voting against their own interests.