Michelle wolf, Sarah huckabee, and the WHCD

[Griever]

The lying mouthpiece for the president got destroyed on stage, and it was done without having to resort to a persona looks (trump should take notes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_XIiIMdf84&feature=youtu.be

[BmorePat87]

I'm not a huge fan of Michelle Wolf but her bit was pretty good. It's amusing how concerned people are with a comedian being profane and then state it is refreshing when our President is even more profane.

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 01:02 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I'm not a huge fan of Michelle Wolf but her bit was pretty good. It's amusing how concerned people are with a comedian being profane and then state it is refreshing when our President is even more profane.

Yeah, I found that amusing, as well. I think there might be a term for that sort of thing that some folks use these days? Virtue signalling, I believe might be a good word for it.

[GMDino]

[Yojimbo]

The media is really bent out of shape because that’s who she really destroyed. Accused them of profiting off of Trump and enabling his behavior by non stop covering him. That hurt their little feelings, so they had to make up the fake controversy because they can’t just be mad about themselves getting made fun of, that’s too transparent.

You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? You act like you hate him, but I think you really love him." She added, "You helped create this monster, and now you're profiting off of him."

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 01:27 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: The media is really bent out of shape because that’s who she really destroyed. Accused them of profiting off of Trump and enabling his behavior by non stop covering him. That hurt their little feelings, so they had to make up the fake controversy because they can’t just be mad about themselves getting made fun of, that’s too transparent.

You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? You act like you hate him, but I think you really love him." She added, "You helped create this monster, and now you're profiting off of him."

Yeah, I talked about this on Twitter, some. She lambasted both sides and the press and she laid the truth out bare for them all.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-02-2018, 01:08 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, I found that amusing, as well. I think there might be a term for that sort of thing that some folks use these days? Virtue signalling, I believe might be a good word for it.

Isn’t the purpose of the whcd to give our journalism scholarships and help young journalists?

If so then how does making fun of Sarah sanders looks dovetail with that mission?

I have never seen the point of the White House attending. It’s been used as some way to allow wh media to seem glamorous. By attending or paying attention you just prop these people up.

Same reasoning on why we do not need on camera briefings. Media can’t control themselves in most cases.

As for the comedian.... her level of funny is up to the individual. I am. More of a Jim Gaffigan guy myself.

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 01:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn’t the purpose of the whcd to give our journalism scholarships and help young journalists?

If so then how does making fun of Sarah sanders looks dovetail with that mission?

I have never seen the point of the White House attending. It’s been used as some way to allow wh media to seem glamorous. By attending or paying attention you just prop these people up.

Same reasoning on why we do not need on camera briefings. Media can’t control themselves in most cases.

As for the comedian.... her level of funny is up to the individual. I am. More of a Jim Gaffigan guy myself.

Not sure why you quoted me for this, because I didn't really give an opinion on the dinner itself. I, personally, think the WHCD should be done away with and have felt that way ever since I started paying attention to these sorts of things. But that's a different discussion altogether.

[Griever]

(05-02-2018, 01:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn’t the purpose of the whcd to give our journalism scholarships and help young journalists?  

If so then how does making fun of Sarah sanders looks dovetail with that mission?  

I have never seen the point of the White House attending.  It’s been used as some way to allow wh media to seem glamorous.  By attending or paying attention you just prop these people up.  

Same reasoning on why we do not need on camera briefings.  Media can’t control themselves in most cases.  

As for the comedian....  her level of funny is up to the individual.  I am. More of a Jim Gaffigan guy myself.

Michelle didnt make fun of Sarah Huckabee Sanders looks

if anything she complimented her ability to get the perfect smokey eye look by burning facts and using that instead of make-up

we need on camera briefings to see the lies she tells on a daily basis

[Dill]

(05-02-2018, 01:48 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn’t the purpose of the whcd to give our journalism scholarships and help young journalists?  

If so then how does making fun of Sarah sanders looks dovetail with that mission?  

I have never seen the point of the White House attending.  It’s been used as some way to allow wh media to seem glamorous.  By attending or paying attention you just prop these people up.  

Same reasoning on why we do not need on camera briefings.  Media can’t control themselves in most cases.  

As for the comedian....  her level of funny is up to the individual.  I am. More of a Jim Gaffigan guy myself.

It is/was also a celebration/demonstration of the relationship between the free press and government--a country in which the free press is loyal opposition and, at the end of the day, those who speak truth to power sit down with power and both sides poke good natured fun at one another as citizens of the same country, which all would like to see prosper.

Trump stopped coming because that is not his vision of the free press.   That is prime take away from the last two whcd's, not what one comedian did one time.

[Dill]

(05-02-2018, 01:27 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: The media is really bent out of shape because that’s who she really destroyed. Accused them of profiting off of Trump and enabling his behavior by non stop covering him. That hurt their little feelings, so they had to make up the fake controversy because they can’t just be mad about themselves getting made fun of, that’s too transparent.

You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? You act like you hate him, but I think you really love him." She added, "You helped create this monster, and now you're profiting off of him."

Can't agree with you on this one, Yo. 

If I understand her joke/critique correctly, she is saying the press profits or otherwise benefits from the outrageous actions of the Commander-in-Chief, the guy upon whose judgment the well being of all, for now and the future, greatly depends.

I don't think that is a very accurate or effective critique of the press.  The "liberal media," for sure, would like to see him gone, even it means selling fewer papers.  They know he is bad for the nation, for everyone.  Colossally bad. It is their job to point that out. We live in a capitalist system so hardly anything can get into circulation without being sold in a competitive market. It too easy to always claim people are "doing if for the money."

The press did not "help create this monster"--unless Wolf is referring to Fox and Sinclair.  The liberal/responsible press has to report him. And their reporting may eventually undo Tump as the blue wave rises in response to reporting of both poor leadership and vulgar, childish public displays.

If anyone, it is Wolf who is using Trump and his administration to profit. I did not find her jokes especially tasteful or insightful--especially the abortion jokes--but they expanded her potential audience, gave her national exposure, while at the same time adding talking points to the right's claim of mainstream bias.  They don't distinguish between comedians and politicians, so this is an example of how vulgar and vindictive "the left" is.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-02-2018, 02:39 PM)Dill Wrote: It is/was also a celebration/demonstration of the relationship between the free press and government--a country in which the free press is loyal opposition and, at the end of the day, those who speak truth to power sit down with power and both sides poke good natured fun at one another as citizens of the same country, which all would like to see prosper.

Trump stopped coming because that is not his vision of the free press.  That is prime take away from the last two whcd's, not what one comedian did one time.

How is it that we don’t have a press that is an opposition unless there is a republican in office?

Trump stopped coming because of the over the top media.

Here is how we fix it. Media companies state their bias then we fill up the White House media 80/20 with biased media based off the presidents party. This way each president gets hammered constantly.

[hollodero]

(05-02-2018, 04:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: How is it that we don’t have a press that is an opposition unless there is a republican in office?  

Yeah that's because the latest republican presidents did awful things and performed quite badly. Can't blame the press for that.

Also, you act like FOX wouldn't exist.

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 04:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: How is it that we don’t have a press that is an opposition unless there is a republican in office?

You want to talk about victim mentalities? This is one. This is a a falsehood that is perpetuated by a victim mentality. I think the press is too chummy with every administration. Hell, you should've seen SHS having fun with the reporters during and after the event. But when they are all doing their jobs they are adversarial with every administration.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-02-2018, 04:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You want to talk about victim mentalities? This is one. This is a a falsehood that is perpetuated by a victim mentality. I think the press is too chummy with every administration. Hell, you should've seen SHS having fun with the reporters during and after the event. But when they are all doing their jobs they are adversarial with every administration.

They should never be friendly. They were rarely adversarial with obama. And when it was it was fox. Being cordial with people outside of work is normal. I would prefer they didn’t fratenize at all.

If the media wants to go nuts like it has versus trump, then they should be the same when a democrat is in there.

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 05:01 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They should never be friendly. They were rarely adversarial with obama. And when it was it was fox. Being cordial with people outside of work is normal. I would prefer they didn’t fratenize at all.

If the media wants to go nuts like it has versus trump, then they should be the same when a democrat is in there.

They were often adversarial with Obama. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, WaPo, NYT, all of those and more got adversarial with the administration on a regular basis. Jake Tapper won awards for getting adversarial with the Obama administration, awards from mainstream media organizations, because he was doing what journalists do.

But victim mentalities don't allow people to see those sorts of things.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-02-2018, 05:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: They were often adversarial with Obama. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, WaPo, NYT, all of those and more got adversarial with the administration on a regular basis. Jake Tapper won awards for getting adversarial with the Obama administration, awards from mainstream media organizations, because he was doing what journalists do.

But victim mentalities don't allow people to see those sorts of things.

Jake tapper was the only one doing so that wasn’t on Fox.

Let’s compare that to today’s group lol.

[Belsnickel]

(05-02-2018, 05:13 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Jake tapper was the only one doing so that wasn’t on Fox.

Let’s compare that to today’s group lol.

Well, objectively there is a lot more going on to report on with this administration.

[StLucieBengal]

(05-02-2018, 05:17 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, objectively there is a lot more going on to report on with this administration.

Actually there isn’t.

Obama admin. Targeted Americans with the irs & fbi, phone tapped reporters and their parents, ran guns to the cartels, etc.

Today’s stuff is Russian nonsense and a porn star payoff driven by the leftist media.

Trump is about to negotiate peace in Korea. Starting to get calls for the Nobel peace prize.....Heck obama got one for winning an election. Trump is actually earning one.

[Dill]

(05-02-2018, 04:37 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: How is it that we don’t have a press that is an opposition unless there is a republican in office?  

Trump stopped coming because of the over the top media.  

Here is how we fix it.  Media companies state their bias then we fill up the White House media 80/20 with biased media based off the presidents party.   This way each president gets hammered constantly.

Trump stopped coming because Obama shot him down with birther jokes. 

He can dish it out but he cannot take it.

Do you have a picture or a video of Trump laughing? He never does. He is not mentally stable or competent to be president.

And you need to start reading some other news sources besides the Daily Wire and Breitbart. There was plenty of criticism of Obama.
It does not seem as bad as the criticism of Trump because Obama did not personally insult women and tweet disinformation like an angry 7th grader,  "Getting his message to the people" .  They needed to know Mika's face was bleeding from a facelift. 

And the point is not to "hammer" presidents, but to record their statements, explain their policies, and question inconsistencies--LIES--and factual errors. Given that mission, a president who constantly lies and contradicts his own policies will receive more critical attention. Irresponsible followers who put party before country will call that "bias." 

 Like its SO UNFAIR if the press does not go on about Obama grabbing women and stiffing creditors and hiding his finances and insulting allies.

Will it take a nuclear war for you to stop blaming the messenger?