PFF scores vs Detroit

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-18-2021, 10:02 AM)jj22 Wrote: I thought he settled in as the game went on, but haven't re-watched yet. I am interested in PFF's Hendrickson grades (which was the point).

For what it’s worth Sewell was actually Detroit’s highest graded player on offense (yikes).

Penei Sewell was the highest graded player on the Lions offense (74.8) Sunday.

Defensively, it was Barnes, Penisini, Jacobs and McNeill leading the way.

At least the youth is playing well.

— Jeremy Reisman (@DetroitOnLion) October 18, 2021

I agree he did settle in after the terrible start, but he also couldn’t have graded out that well in the run game either. They had like 30 yards on the ground. Seems high to me, but Jonah was even higher, and he gave up a season high 4 pressures. So who knows.

[jj22]

I just don't know about PFF some (most of the) time. I didn't think he should have graded that high. They clearly don't think of holding as a negative. From what I saw there was a lot of that from him on Hendrickson.

[No-huddle Joe]

(10-18-2021, 10:12 AM)jj22 Wrote: I just don't know about PFF some (most of the) time. I didn't think he should have graded that high. They clearly don't think of holding as a negative. From what I saw there was a lot of that from him on Hendrickson.

This 100%!  On the second or third play of the game for the Lions, Sewell had a choke hold on Hendrickson, and nothing was called. I saw this a few times during the game...the refs must have figured why prolong the game with penalties or something.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-18-2021, 10:17 AM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: This 100%!  On the second or third play of the game for the Lions, Sewell had a choke hold on Hendrickson, and nothing was called. I saw this a few times during the game...the refs must have figured why prolong the game with penalties or something.

I thought this was pretty funny…

Ja’Marr Chase’s blocking technique vs. Penei Sewell’s.
Biggest difference is Chase’s is both legal & effective (put his guy on his back!), whereas Sewell’s is neither. #RuleTheJungle pic.twitter.com/ahSbjt11JY

— Kevin (@KevinMcCune) October 18, 2021

[Nicomo Cosca]

PFF Week 6 Blocking Grades

Jonah Williams
Run Blocking = 81.0
Pass Blocking = 59.8
3 QB Pressures Allowed
3 QB Hurries Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
0 Penalties


Quinton Spain
Run Blocking = 87.1
Pass Blocking = 79.2
1 QB Pressure Allowed
1 QB Hurry Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
0 Penalties


Trey Hopkins
Run Blocking = 52.1
Pass Blocking = 59.6
0 QB Pressures Allowed
0 QB Hurries Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
0 Penalties


Jackson Carman
Run Blocking = 90.3
Pass Blocking = 63.0
1 QB Pressure Allowed
1 QB Hurry Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
0 Penalties


Riley Reiff
Run Blocking = 66.0
Pass Blocking = 29.8
2 QB Pressures Allowed
1 QB Hurry Allowed
1 Sack Allowed
1 Penalty


Trey Hill
Run Blocking = 70.0
Pass Blocking = 67.1
0 QB Pressures Allowed
0 QB Hurries Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
2 Penalties


Isaiah Prince
Run Blocking = 83.9
Pass Blocking = 71.3
0 QB Pressures Allowed
0 QB Hurries Allowed
0 Sacks Allowed
0 Penalties


Drew Sample
31 total snaps (22 run, 9 pass)
Run Blocking = 55.7
Pass Blocking = 76.0


CJ Uzomah
20 total snaps (17 run, 3 pass)
Run Blocking = 53.0
Pass Blocking = 71.0


Joe Mixon
7 PBLK Snaps
Pass Blocking = 83.9


Chris Evans
3 PBLK Snaps
Pass Blocking = 80.0


I know Carman only played a portion of the snaps, but that run blocking grade is well deserved, imo. He was opening up some really nice holes for Mixon when he was in there.

[*pally*]

Joe Mixon (83.9) and Chris Evans (80.0) were the two highest-graded pass blockers in the game yesterday.

They combined for 9 pass block snaps and didn't allow a pressure, including the crucial pickup (and he stayed on the block) by Evans to give Burrow time to step-up.

— Andrew Russell (@PFF_AndrewR) October 18, 2021

This off-season, the #Bengals signed @Quinton_Spain to a prove-it deal… and it’s paying off brilliantly.

Amongst guards, he ranks 11th in PFF grade (75.1), 8th in run blocking, & 29th in pass blocking (62.6).

He’s allowed 0 QB sacks & hits with only 4 hurries (T-9). Huge 2021. pic.twitter.com/gQmc3SnhwH

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) October 18, 2021

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-18-2021, 10:27 AM)pally Wrote:

One more note on Chris Evans.

He had 3 of the Bengals 7 tackles on special teams today. https://t.co/Fn9c80ffhU

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) October 17, 2021

He’s going to be a fan favorite. Gio 2.0, indeed.

[WeezyBengal]

(10-18-2021, 09:45 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Awuzie is a star. What an incredible signing.

*Awuzie and Hendrickson and Reader

Seriously - great FA signings the past couple of years by this organization. I'm so glad Awuzie is on a 3 year deal as well.

Glad this FO is finally getting it. You can ACTUALLY bring guys in that you don't draft to help your team.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Idk who’s been a bigger surprise so far, Spain or Awuzie? I thought both would be solid, but nothing like this.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Most improved NFL passing offenses entering W6 MNF (difference in EPA per pass year-over-year)

1. LA Rams (+0.33)
2. Dallas Cowboys (+0.23)
3. Denver Broncos (+0.15)
4. Arizona Cardinals (+0.14)
5. Cincinnati Bengals (+0.12)

— Anthony Treash (@PFF_Anthony) October 18, 2021

[Nicomo Cosca]

[Nicomo Cosca]

[jj22]

Spain is throwing a wrench in the plans for a youth movement to take over in 2022.

[TheFan]

(10-18-2021, 10:08 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: For what it’s worth Sewell was actually Detroit’s highest graded player on offense (yikes).

Penei Sewell was the highest graded player on the Lions offense (74.8) Sunday.

Defensively, it was Barnes, Penisini, Jacobs and McNeill leading the way.

At least the youth is playing well.

— Jeremy Reisman (@DetroitOnLion) October 18, 2021

I agree he did settle in after the terrible start, but he also couldn’t have graded out that well in the run game either. They had like 30 yards on the ground. Seems high to me, but Jonah was even higher, and he gave up a season high 4 pressures. So who knows.

This to me shows how biased PFF is. There's no way you could watch that game and give Sewell that high of a grade. He did improve some as the game went on but he was dominated in the first half. He had holding calls on him and should have had numerous other ones. 

You would think having to hold (but it not getting called) would also count against a player if they're going to count a player being on the ground too much or getting beat but it being a positive play against them. 

[*bfine32*]

I wonder what more PFF wants from Mixon.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-18-2021, 02:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I wonder what more PFF wants from Mixon.

I don’t remember any whiffs in his pass blocking yesterday.

[*Synric*]

(10-18-2021, 02:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I wonder what more PFF wants from Mixon.

The more I look at similar players around the league and how they are graded I'm convinced there isn't a set negative or positive grade per play. I think the grader has alot to do with the numbers we see and some of them are harsher than others.

[Joelist]

I also find the grade for Sewell laughable when both Bengals and Lions fans/writers noticed he got dominated all day and they had to help him with a RB/TE.

[*bfine32*]

(10-18-2021, 02:31 PM)jj22 Wrote: Spain is throwing a wrench in the plans for a youth movement to take over in 2022.

Spain is just nasty. Pretty sure he got in a scrap with Shelvin in the PS and I've seen him come to Burrow's defense after a player has hit/sacked him.

There was a run play yesterday where Spain was lead blocking and took out a guy who fell on top of him. Spain push him up and off him with aggression.

[Nicomo Cosca]

I’d like to see them sign Spain to a 3-4 year deal. He’s going to get paid this time, but we know he can excel in Pollack’s scheme, and he’s only 30.