PP accounting gimmicks and an update on the Charges

[StLucieBengal]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/03/video-shows-planned-parenthood-accounting-tricks-to-hide-profits-from-baby-parts-sales/

Looks like we will see what happens with these Charges.

Quote:A new video released by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) appears to show how Planned Parenthood uses accounting gimmicks to hide profits created through the sale of body parts of aborted babies.

A financial benefit “is what staff and management need to see,” says an executive at a Planned Parenthood facility in Texas.



The video highlights footage from the April 9, 2015 visit of investigative journalists David Daleiden — director of the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) — and CMP employee Sandra Merritt to Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast’s (PPGC) abortion facility in Houston.

“We had two levels of invoicing for them. We had it worded as ‘per consent,’” explains PPGC Director of Research Melissa Farrell. In the video, Farrell states “per consent” is the phrase used in PPGC budgeting in place of “per specimen” for fetal tissue.

Farrell discusses that while a woman may consent to supply her aborted baby’s tissue, the specimen itself may not be useable for experimentation.

“There’s probably some situations where somebody would consent and then just not, we didn’t get a sample, or she changed her mind, or something happened to the specimen,” she says, adding, “Now obviously, we don’t want to end up paying for material that we can’t use,” and suggests that there be a line item fee or “something else that represents the specimens.”

“I just don’t want it to turn into a situation that is not financially beneficial for you,” says Merritt.

“Yeah, yeah. And we’ll, I’ll take you up on that. I’ll take you up on that. I’ll take you up on that,” Farrell repeats, laughing. “We definitely want to do that, because that’s what staff and management need to see.”

PPGC CEO Melaney Linton also appears in the video advising that Farrell will “work on all of that with you” when it comes to “remuneration” and “compensation” for fetal tissue.

Farrell explains to Daleiden and Merritt over lunch that her department – which has overseen the organization’s fetal tissue supply program since 2006 — “contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here.”

Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)76%
, chairman of the House’s Select Investigative Panel on Infant Lives, said the new video footage is “deeply disturbing.”

Blackburn said in a statement:

The comments in this video by an employee of a large abortion provider are deeply disturbing and seem to demonstrate a willingness to obfuscate and hide their true intentions. The Select Investigative Panel on Infant Lives is examining these issues and this new video, once again, raises more questions about the medical procedures and business practices used by entities involved in fetal tissue procurement. Our panel intends to follow the facts where they lead us.

Daleiden and Merrit – who were indicted by a Harris County, Texas grand jury while Planned Parenthood was entirely cleared of wrongdoing – are presenting themselves to the court in Houston on Thursday morning. At that time, national pro-life leaders will present over 100,000 signatures calling on District Attorney Devon Anderson to drop the charges against the journalists, Operation Rescue reports.

According to Associated Press, these are not the first allegations of bias Anderson – who ran for office as a pro-life Republican — has faced:

Anderson was barely three months into office when the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue accused a Houston doctor of performing late-term abortions. The activist behind those allegations, Troy Newman, was also a founding member of the Center for Medical Progress — the anti-abortion group headed by Daleiden…

Operation Rescue had released disturbing photos and accusations from the former staff of Dr. Douglas Karpen. A grand jury declined to indict Karpen; the abortion provider’s lawyer, Chip Lewis, said Karpen was smeared by doctored pictures and false allegations made by individuals who were paid by Operation Rescue.

Lewis, a longtime political donor in Houston whose beneficiaries include Anderson, said he helped soften the political fallout for her in Republican circles.

“I told them, ‘Don’t hitch your wagon to this. They’re crooks, and it’s going to be exposed,'” Lewis said, referring to Operation Rescue.

Kansas-based Operation Rescue has denied paying informants and had questioned the evidence seen by the grand jury. Anderson’s handling of both cases is also questioned by Texas Right to Life, a prominent anti-abortion group that endorsed the district attorney in 2014.

“It’s incomprehensible,” Conway said of Anderson’s actions.

Anderson acknowledged in August that a prosecutor on her staff was a board member of the Houston Planned Parenthood clinic but said that person would not be involved in the grand jury case. In a statement announcing Monday’s charges, Anderson said, “As I stated at the outset of this investigation, we must go where the evidence leads us.”

Lewis said the assistant prosecutor who oversaw the Karpen investigation also handled the Planned Parenthood case. “I don’t think she forgot what she uncovered,” Lewis said…

Planned Parenthood attorney Josh Schaffer said a prosecutor told him the grand jury never even voted on possible criminal charges against the nation’s largest abortion provider.

“Planned Parenthood’s self-interested political maneuvers will never silence free speech or the citizen press,” Daleiden said in a statement. “The new video released today shows that no amount of half-baked barratry can conceal Planned Parenthood’s barbaric harvesting and profiting off baby body parts.”

Peter Breen, special counsel with the Thomas More Society – which is representing Daleiden, said:

The charges against David Daleiden are legally and factually baseless. David used standard undercover journalism techniques to catch Planned Parenthood staff agreeing to alter abortion procedures to get more intact organs and tissue from aborted babies, presumably without telling their patients. David also caught Planned Parenthood staff discussing how to adjust accounting line items to conceal profits from baby body part transactions. Planned Parenthood’s lawyers in Houston have now admitted they dreamed up and demanded the charges against David, apparently in order to distract prosecutors and the public from their own bad acts. We intend to seek to have these charges dismissed at the earliest opportunity.

[GMDino]

[StLucieBengal]

Oh I forgot you wanted to just claim victory before all the facts came out.

Sorry that my follow up has gotten in the way of your narrative.

[fredtoast]

So the fact that Planned Parenthood does not want to pay a fee for tissue that was not collected or could not be used is somehow wrong?


I don't understand this at all.

[fredtoast]

(02-04-2016, 04:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Oh I forgot you wanted to just claim victory before all the facts came out.  

Sorry that my follow up has gotten in the way of your narrative.

Considering all their other hack job videos have been exposed as false and/or misleading I don't really consider this credible evidence.

What is so crooked about PP not wanting to pay a fee for tissue that could not be collected or used?  All they are trying to do is avoid losing money.

[GMDino]

(02-04-2016, 04:57 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Oh I forgot you wanted to just claim victory before all the facts came out.  

Sorry that my follow up has gotten in the way of your narrative.

Let me see...what would you say?

Ah!

"I think there are shenanigans going on! I'll wait until I see something that agree with me!"

[BmorePat87]

This seemed like it was more of a non-profit trying to avoid loss than it was of someone trying to hide the transactions.

[Belsnickel]

The minute an actual investigation turns up any wrongdoing I will denounce what was occurring at the level at which it was occurring. Until then these videos are pointless.

[Benton]

Getting caught lying tends to make you less than credible. Their attempts to discredit PP may turn up something legitimate, but their willingness to mislead people in the past assures no one will care.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-04-2016, 06:49 PM)Benton Wrote: Getting caught lying tends to make you less than credible. Their attempts to discredit PP may turn up something legitimate, but their willingness to mislead people in the past assures no one will care.

PP's goal in these instances isn't to clear themselves. It's always to demonize the accuser. Enough people know they do terrible things they just choose to ignore it so they don't have to deal with it ... PP succeeded even if these charges are dropped.... Which they are likely to be dropped after some funding gets behind this prosecutor.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(02-04-2016, 07:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: PP's goal in these instances isn't to clear themselves.   It's always to demonize the accuser.

Yet in this case they got to do both.  Bonus!


 

[StLucieBengal]

(02-04-2016, 07:27 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yet in this case they got to do both.  Bonus!


 

Not 1 person can say deep down if they are having an honest conversation with themselves that PP is doing the right things. Unless you are a supporter/turn a blind eye to the modern day negative eugenics movement.

[JustWinBaby]

(02-04-2016, 08:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not 1 person can say deep down if they are having an honest conversation with themselves that PP is doing the right things.    Unless you are a supporter/turn a blind eye to the modern day negative eugenics movement.

I don't buy the eugenics argument.

If these babies are going to be aborted, anyway (and they are), then why not get some sort of benefit for medical research?

Is there some POTENTIAL fraud and kickbacks going on at PP?  Would not surprise me, but I don't think that really has anything to do with the ethical/moral questions posed here - just opportunists exploiting the situation, which happens at many companies and institutions.

[GMDino]

(02-04-2016, 07:27 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yet in this case they got to do both.  Bonus!


 

Rep.  

(02-04-2016, 08:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not 1 person can say deep down if they are having an honest conversation with themselves that PP is doing the right things.    Unless you are a supporter/turn a blind eye to the modern day negative eugenics movement.

Not one person have said they are FOR women having abortions (that I have seen).  However since you want to ignore the REST of what PP does I can see why your view would be jaded.  That and your COMPLETE INABILITY to accept any information that is contrary to your established belief.

And thanks for waiting 14 posts to bring up eugenics.  I was thinking you had forgotten. 

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-04-2016, 04:51 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/03/video-shows-planned-parenthood-accounting-tricks-to-hide-profits-from-baby-parts-sales/

Looks like we will see what happens with these Charges.  

What charges?

[Benton]

(02-04-2016, 07:25 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote:   Enough people know they do terrible things they just choose to ignore it so they don't have to deal with it ...    

wait.... Which one are you talking about?

[fredtoast]

(02-04-2016, 08:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not 1 person can say deep down if they are having an honest conversation with themselves that PP is doing the right things.    Unless you are a supporter/turn a blind eye to the modern day negative eugenics movement.

Ah, the always brilliant "I am right because I say."

I am soooooo impressed.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-04-2016, 08:33 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I don't buy the eugenics argument.

If these babies are going to be aborted, anyway (and they are), then why not get some sort of benefit for medical research?

Is there some POTENTIAL fraud and kickbacks going on at PP?  Would not surprise me, but I don't think that really has anything to do with the ethical/moral questions posed here - just opportunists exploiting the situation, which happens at many companies and institutions.

They can traffic body parts all they like as far as I am concerned, it's disgusting but they have the market cornered on that anyway. My contention is they shouldn't be receiving any government money. The Head of PP admitted to congress they have plenty of reserves and show a profit every year.

As far as eugenics. What's the difference between the negative eugenics movement back in the Sanger days and now? Look at what they were preaching back then and dress up the language with the modern day "messaging". Add in the 100 years of brow beating us that abortion is a good thing. The eugenics comparison comes by breaking down who the abortions affect the most. The very same people eugenicists a 100 years ago were saying weren't worthy to have children. Back then they hunted these people down and used undercover methods to sterilize them. Now they actually have them walking into the door to willingly do what they had to be sneaky about 100 years ago.

Reminds me of the opening scene in Logan's run. Where people walked into carousal because they were told it was best for them. We found out later that Once they left the dome the life clock stopped.

[StLucieBengal]

(02-04-2016, 09:29 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Rep.  


Not one person have said they are FOR women having abortions (that I have seen).  However since you want to ignore the REST of what PP does I can see why your view would be jaded.  That and your COMPLETE INABILITY to accept any information that is contrary to your established belief.

And thanks for waiting 14 posts to bring up eugenics.  I was thinking you had forgotten. 

so how many good things erase the bad thing of killing millions. Let me know the exchange rate.

The Nazi's did wonders for modern day medicine as countless other things we rely on today. I would hate to ignore all their positive accomplishments and call them mass murdering monsters Maybe your exchange rate can save them . Just like you back up PP.

[JustWinBaby]

(02-05-2016, 12:38 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: As far as eugenics.    What's the difference between the negative eugenics movement back in the Sanger days and now?    Look at what they were preaching back then and dress up the language with the modern day "messaging". 

So your contention is abortion is a left-wing conspiracy to thin their voting pool?