Tennessee is losing its mind...

[GMDino]

I should say REPUBLICANS in TN are losing their minds.  Or rather than aren't afraid to act like Republicans anymore. 

Story 1:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2020-02-11/tampon-tax-break-faces-resistance-in-tennessee

Quote:Tampon Tax Break Faces Resistance in Tennessee


A proposal to  include feminine hygiene products during Tennessee's annual sales-tax holiday is facing resistance from lawmakers concerned about the lack of limit on on such purchases.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A proposal to include feminine hygiene products during Tennessee's annual sales-tax holiday faced resistance Tuesday from lawmakers concerned about the lack of limit on on such purchases.

The bill would allow these products to be tax free during Tennessee's three day weekend where certain goods — ranging from $1,500 computers to $100 clothing items — can be purchased tax free. The weekend is held the last Friday in July, when most families are preparing for the new school year.


However, Republicans inside the GOP-dominant Statehouse have pushed back against such proposals to remove the “tampon tax” over the years.


"I would think since it's a sales tax holiday, there's really no limit on the number of items anybody can purchase," said Sen. Joey Hensley, a Republican from Hohenwald, while debating against the bill Tuesday. “I don't know how you would limit the number of items someone could purchase.”


According to the bill's fiscal impact, women spend approximately $120 a year on feminine hygiene products.


Tennessee's current sales tax is 7%, which means the the proposal is estimated to cost the state approximately $132,700 annually.


“It's a very uncomfortable conversation to have, there are some young girls who use rags and cloths because they can't afford these products and we should not allow our young girls to be submitted to this humiliation,” said Democratic Sen. Brenda Gilmore of Goodlettsville.


The Republican-controlled hearing originally was prepared to give the bill a negative recommendation during Tuesday's hearing but held off to give the bill's sponsor, Sen. Sara Kyle, more time to address questions about the funding.

Advocates say 10 U.S. states have eliminated their so-called tampon tax. Kenya became the first country to do so more than a decade ago and nations including Canada and India have followed.

Because when it comes to treating everyone equally in America Republicans draw the line at "icky girl stuff".


Story 2:

https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-news/tn-lawmakers-introduce-joint-resolution-to-recognize-cnn-and-washington-post-as-fake-news/

Quote:TN lawmakers introduce joint resolution to recognize CNN and Washington Post as “fake news”


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) — An amendment to a house joint resolution was announced Tuesday at the Tennessee State Capitol, announcing that the state of Tennessee recognizes CNN and The Washington Post “as fake news and part of the media wing of the Democratic party.”



According to the resolution, lawmakers say that an editor of The Washington Post wrote on October 3, 2019 that 
President Trump “cast a spell on the Republican Party and suggested that Trumpism is cult-like.” The resolution also says that a CNN host suggested that Trump supporters “belong to a cult and that our president is using mind control” on November 24, 2019.


“We recognize that fake news outlets suggest ideas without directly making accusations so that they can claim innocence from their ivory towers,” the resolution reads.


The joint resolution introduced in the state House with the Senate reportedly concurring says that CNN and The Washington Post are condemned “for denigrating our citizens and implying that they are weak-minded followers instead of people exercising their rights that our veterans paid for with their blood.”

Read the full resolution here.

[url=https://www.wkrn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/73/2020/02/HJR779-Con-Pro.pdf][/url]
Because nothing says "we are not weak minded" like echoing the "fake news" mantra from their leader.

[Dill]

(02-12-2020, 10:24 AM)GMDino Wrote: I should say REPUBLICANS in TN are losing their minds.  Or rather than aren't afraid to act like Republicans anymore. 

Story 1:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2020-02-11/tampon-tax-break-faces-resistance-in-tennessee

Because when it comes to treating everyone equally in America Republicans draw the line at "icky girl stuff".

Story 2:
https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-news/tn-lawmakers-introduce-joint-resolution-to-recognize-cnn-and-washington-post-as-fake-news/

Because nothing says "we are not weak minded" like echoing the "fake news" mantra from their leader.

You have to be making this up, Dino. Or it can be traced to a troll farm in Macedonia. 

I don't believe the Republican party would undermine freedom of choice and freedom of the press this way. 

CNN and the Washington Post made up these stories to make Trump supporters look bad.

This is an insult to our Dear President.

[Benton]

Male only products like porn and flesh lights get taxed, I don't see why women should get an exemption.

[JustWinBaby]

LMFAO.... Seriously, Clark?!? Without bothering to research what the truth here actually is.....you're getting your panties in a bunch over a few dollars a year in taxes?!? HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED LOGIC?!?!?

$120 a year on tampons.....and so taxes are, like, maybe $10?!? No, wait!!!! That's ignorant of me. This is about a 3-day tax holiday weekend, and TN sales tax is 7%.....so that works out to something like 7 ***** pennies???!??!?!?!? You're bitching and calling Repubs evil over 7 pennies a year?!?!?!?!?

I've stated the obvious before and got banned for it, so I'll just zip it.

[GMDino]

(02-13-2020, 05:35 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: LMFAO.... Seriously, Clark?!?  Without bothering to research what the truth here actually is.....you're getting your panties in a bunch over a few dollars a year in taxes?!?  HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED LOGIC?!?!?

$120 a year on tampons.....and so taxes are, like, maybe $10?!?  No, wait!!!!  That's ignorant of me.  This is about a 3-day tax holiday weekend, and TN sales tax is 7%.....so that works out to something like 7 ***** pennies???!??!?!?!? You're bitching and calling Repubs evil over 7 pennies a year?!?!?!?!?

I've stated the obvious before and got banned for it, so I'll just zip it.

You almost accidentally got the point.

Why single out feminine products when the tax money lost is so little during a tax holiday?  Why not single out men's underwear?  Or condoms? Or anything that is male specific?

[BmorePat87]

(02-13-2020, 10:08 AM)GMDino Wrote: You almost accidentally got the point.

Why single out feminine products when the tax money lost is so little during a tax holiday?  Why not single out men's underwear?  Or condoms? Or anything that is male specific?

I always enjoy his time of the month... when he ventures into PnR and thoroughly embarrasses himself.

[Benton]

(02-13-2020, 05:35 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: LMFAO.... Seriously, Clark?!?  Without bothering to research what the truth here actually is.....you're getting your panties in a bunch over a few dollars a year in taxes?!?  HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED LOGIC?!?!?

$120 a year on tampons.....and so taxes are, like, maybe $10?!?  No, wait!!!!  That's ignorant of me.  This is about a 3-day tax holiday weekend, and TN sales tax is 7%.....so that works out to something like 7 ***** pennies???!??!?!?!? You're bitching and calling Repubs evil over 7 pennies a year?!?!?!?!?

I've stated the obvious before and got banned for it, so I'll just zip it.

And that's how socialism starts.

"We're only taking pennies from you". Next thing you know, Bernie is robbing billionaires so people can afford their insulin.

Slippery slope.

[GMDino]

(02-13-2020, 10:16 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I always enjoy his time of the month... when he ventures into PnR and thoroughly embarrasses himself.

But are we taxing him or is he taxing us?  Either way it is very taxing. 

[*michaelsean*]

Is there a list of what's included and excluded? Hard to have an opinion (outside of optics) without any other information.

[BmorePat87]

(02-13-2020, 10:52 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Is there a list of what's included and excluded?  Hard to have an opinion (outside of optics) without any other information.

Any article of clothing $100 or less. All art and office/school supplies $100 or less. Any computer $1,500 or less.

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/revenue/documents/taxes/sales/salestaxholiday/STH_Alpha_List_2015_exempt.pdf

these items are not exempt from sales tax:


https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/revenue/documents/taxes/sales/salestaxholiday/STH_Alpha_List_2015_taxable.pdf

There's an argument to make on the products not falling into the "theme" but the argument they're making of people stockpiling is a tougher one to get behind 

[*michaelsean*]

(02-13-2020, 11:14 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Any article of clothing $100 or less. All art and office/school supplies $100 or less. Any computer $1,500 or less.

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/revenue/documents/taxes/sales/salestaxholiday/STH_Alpha_List_2015_exempt.pdf

these items are not exempt from sales tax:


https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/revenue/documents/taxes/sales/salestaxholiday/STH_Alpha_List_2015_taxable.pdf

There's an argument to make on the products not falling into the "theme" but the argument they're making of people stockpiling is a tougher one to get behind 

 Quite a few women only items on that list of items that won't be taxed..  I get not including tampons because nothing else in health is included, but that is a stupid argument.

[*michaelsean*]

(02-13-2020, 10:08 AM)GMDino Wrote: You almost accidentally got the point.

Why single out feminine products when the tax money lost is so little during a tax holiday?  Why not single out men's underwear?  Or condoms? Or anything that is male specific?

It seems the tampons are being singled in, not singled out.  Condoms aren't covered.Prom dresses. nightgowns, and lingerie are included.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-13-2020, 05:35 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: LMFAO.... Seriously, Clark?!? Without bothering to research what the truth here actually is.....you're getting your panties in a bunch over a few dollars a year in taxes?!? HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED LOGIC?!?!?

$120 a year on tampons.....and so taxes are, like, maybe $10?!? No, wait!!!! That's ignorant of me. This is about a 3-day tax holiday weekend, and TN sales tax is 7%.....so that works out to something like 7 ***** pennies???!??!?!?!? You're bitching and calling Repubs evil over 7 pennies a year?!?!?!?!?

I've stated the obvious before and got banned for it, so I'll just zip it.

And yet the legislators want to debate those 7 ***** pennies?!?!?!?!?

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-13-2020, 12:38 PM)michaelsean Wrote: It seems the tampons are being singled in, not singled out.  Condoms aren't covered.Prom dresses. nightgowns, and lingerie are included.

Female students would most likely use tampons while at school. Whereas, condoms shouldn’t be used on school property by either sex because the students shouldn’t engage in sex while at school.

[*michaelsean*]

(02-13-2020, 01:40 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Female students would most likely use tampons while at school. Whereas, condoms shouldn’t be used on school property by either sex because the students shouldn’t engage in sex while at school.

He asked me why they are singling out tampons and not condoms.  I answered that condoms aren't included.  

He can correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Dino believed just about everything was exempt from sales tax, and they were picking on tampons. Reading the article I can certainly understand the confusion.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(02-13-2020, 02:33 PM)michaelsean Wrote: He asked me why they are singling out tampons and not condoms.  I answered that condoms aren't included.  

He can correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Dino believed just about everything was exempt from sales tax, and they were picking on tampons. Reading the article I can certainly understand the confusion.

Oh, okay. Now I understand better.

Also, I don’t think of condoms as just something men buy, but both sexes purchase for birth control. Whereas, tampons are usually purchased and used by women. Although, I did have to talk my battalion commander (he was infantry) out of spending $5000 dollars on tampons because he was told every soldier in the 4th Infantry Division carried two tampons to treat gun shot wounds.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(02-13-2020, 09:55 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Oh, okay. Now I understand better.

Also, I don’t think of condoms as just something men buy, but both sexes purchase for birth control. Whereas, tampons are usually purchased and used by women. Although, I did have to talk my battalion commander (he was infantry) out of spending $5000 dollars on tampons because he was told every soldier in the 4th Infantry Division carried two tampons to treat gun shot wounds.

Gotta watch out for that good idea fairy.

[Dill]

(02-13-2020, 09:55 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Oh, okay. Now I understand better.

Also, I don’t think of condoms as just something men buy, but both sexes purchase for birth control. Whereas, tampons are usually purchased and used by women. Although, I did have to talk my battalion commander (he was infantry) out of spending $5000 dollars on tampons because he was told every soldier in the 4th Infantry Division carried two tampons to treat gun shot wounds.

LOL depends on where the wounds are? 

[Dill]

(02-13-2020, 05:35 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: LMFAO.... Seriously, Clark?!?  Without bothering to research what the truth here actually is.....you're getting your panties in a bunch over a few dollars a year in taxes?!?  HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED LOGIC?!?!?

$120 a year on tampons.....and so taxes are, like, maybe $10?!?  No, wait!!!!  That's ignorant of me.  This is about a 3-day tax holiday weekend, and TN sales tax is 7%.....so that works out to something like 7 ***** pennies???!??!?!?!? You're bitching and calling Repubs evil over 7 pennies a year?!?!?!?!?

I've stated the obvious before and got banned for it, so I'll just zip it.

LOL You have NEVER been banned for "stating the obvious." 

[JustWinBaby]

(02-13-2020, 10:16 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I always enjoy his time of the month... when he ventures into PnR and thoroughly embarrasses himself.

How so?

Meanwhile, tell me more about how race/sex/gender is a qualification for POTUS?  Dumbest thing I've ever heard.