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(04-04-2023, 01:04 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Please provide scientific evidence a stroke was 100% caused by a riot started by ATIFA and Democrats. I will await your doctor's statement claiming this or else aybe let it go as propaganda and BS.The whole think was preventable, Trump asked Pelosi for troops to protect DC days prior to Jan. 6 (fact), so in your logic I guess Pelosi is responsible for a stroke that killed officer Sicknick.
Sorry, you are full of crap to damage the former POTUS.
But as I have stated, Bragg and Democrats will look smart IF TRUMP IS CONVICTED on this indictment, or will look like political arms of the DNC and a corrupt government if Trump is not convicted.
The PRESIDENT is in charge of the DC National Guard not the Speaker of the House. Trump chose not to bring in the National Guard at any time during that whole debacle. Mike Pence finally took charge.
Trump would have never consulted with Pelosi about anything. However, he is known to be a compulsive liar about everything he has ever done especially if it means blaming his failures on someone else
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(04-04-2023, 01:55 PM)pally Wrote: The PRESIDENT is in charge of the DC National Guard not the Speaker of the House. Trump chose not to bring in the National Guard at any time during that whole debacle. Mike Pence finally took charge.
Trump would have never consulted with Pelosi about anything. However, he is known to be a compulsive liar about everything he has ever done especially if it means blaming his failures on someone else
Correct that misstatement first came from Jim Jordan- The guy who the GOP put in charge of the House judiciary committee and he's not even a lawyer. He failed the Ohio bar exam and then never attempted it again.
Facts First: The Speaker of the House is not in charge of Capitol security. That’s the responsibility of the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the US Capitol Police and approves requests for National Guard assistance.
Jane L. Campbell, president, and CEO of the US Capitol Historical Society, “The Speaker of the House does not oversee the security of the US Capitol, nor does this official oversee the Capitol Police Board.”
Pelosi also cannot unduly influence who is appointed to the Board, which consists of the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms, the Architect of the Capitol, and the Chief of the Capitol Police. The Sergeants at Arms are elected and must be confirmed by their respective chambers and the Architect must be confirmed by both chambers of Congress.
And according to testimony from the former Capitol Police chief, Pelosi was not involved in the decisions made ahead of January 6 regarding the National Guard. In his testimony before the Senate in February, former US Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said that he approached both Sergeants at Arms on the House and Senate sides on January 4 to request the National Guard through an Emergency Declaration from the Capitol Police Board.
His request, according to Sund, was not approved. Instead, the Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael C. Stenger “suggested I ask (the National Guard) how quickly we could get support if needed and to ‘lean forward’ in case we had to request assistance on January 6,” according to Sund’s testimony.
Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which the DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol on January 6th.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-riot-b1970877.html
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(04-04-2023, 01:09 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I hope you feel the exact same way when a prosecutor in California, NY, Texas, Florida goes after a high profile Democrat. You know, campaigns on going after Democrats, wins elections and then starts looking for crimes on the individual versus finding a crime and then finding out who did it.
You understand that "going after a high profile Democrat" won't amount to much without evidence of wrongdoing, right?
Every day Hannity can go after Biden for "taking millions from China," but no prosecutor can bring that claim to court without documentary evidence to convince a grand jury and a judge.
If checks surface showing Biden paid someone to pay off porn star to secure his election, or that he defied an order from the National archivist to return classified documents illegally taken, or some sec. of state records a phone call in which Biden demands he jig election results, or his administration and the DNC present Kamala Harris with lists of false electors in Jan. 2025, THEN we will for sure see a prosecutor going after a high profile Democrat.
If that happens, and the evidence is public, I don't see Dem leaders calling the prosecution a "witch hunt."
Seriously, don't you think the Trump "witch hunts" will stop when Trump stops breaking the law?
(04-04-2023, 01:09 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: NYC is a cesspool of a city, rats are everywhere. Bragg is the king rat, let's see how this turns out for him. I would not be shocked if a far left liberal killed Bragg and tried to frame a white supremest. That seems to be their stye.
So killing their own to frame white supremacists "seems" to be the Dem style?
Then there must be numerous examples of this. Can you perhaps offer one or two?
If not, then this just sounds like prep for denial in case Bragg is assassinated by a MAGA fanatic, like those people who still believe it was ANTIFA and BLM supporters who stormed the Capitol.
PS "far left liberals" are not really "liberals," are they?
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(04-04-2023, 03:50 PM)Dill Wrote: You understand that "going after a high profile Democrat" won't amount to much without evidence of wrongdoing, right?
Even if they go after a high profile democrat, I can't see liberals getting worked up like conservatives do for Trump since they have the cult of personality thing going. Oh no, the GOP arrested Gavin Newsome? Where is California going to find another liberal d-bag to take his spot? It's over! California is the new Florida!
Democrats have Obama and pretty much tolerate anyone else. If the GOP has Obama thrown in the brig they'd care, otherwise? Meh, do your worst. Start with Biden, please.
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A local prosecutor would have to have proof that the high profile politician committed a crime in their jurisdiction. Can't go after Biden for his supposed corruption if that corruption didn't take place in their area
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(04-04-2023, 03:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Democrats have Obama and pretty much tolerate anyone else. If the GOP has Obama thrown in the brig they'd care, otherwise? Meh, do your worst. Start with Biden, please.
Obama is much loved by the majority of Americans.
But even his admirers wouldn't believe what he says over public facts presented in the mainstream news.
And if they found out he was boning porn stars and playmates while Michelle was nursing their daughters, the luster would be gone. Especially if he called one "horseface."
Even more so if women came forward accusing him of sexual assault and rape, and his defense was they were "not his type."
Had he fomented coup, his name would be dirt among Dems, not a call to return him to the White House.
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(04-04-2023, 04:07 PM)Dill Wrote: Obama is much loved by the majority of Americans.
But even his admirers wouldn't believe what he says over public facts presented in the mainstream news.
And if they found out he was boning porn stars and playmates while Michelle was nursing their daughters, the luster would be gone. Especially if he called one "horseface."
Even more so if women came forward accusing him of sexual assault and rape, and his defense was they were "not his type."
Had he fomented coup, his name would be dirt among Dems, not a call to return him to the White House.
That's possible. The fact that Trump is battering DeSantis among conservatives indicates only he has found a way to make scandal look appealing. Well, Bill Clinton got some bad boy cred, too.
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It took the "law and order/family values" party less than 30 minutes to go after the judges daughter.
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(04-04-2023, 04:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: It took the "law and order/family values" party less than 30 minutes to go after the judges daughter.
Stuff like this is exactly what the GOP needs to win back the independents and suburban women voters they lost after 2016. Excellent move.
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(04-04-2023, 04:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: It took the "law and order/family values" party less than 30 minutes to go after the judges daughter.
Isn't that intimidation? I think that's what SSF called it.
Pretty sure it's a crime.
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I saw this yesterday and wanted to share just in case people forgot that Trump wasn't charge while he was POTUS because he was POTUS.
He's not anymore.
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(04-04-2023, 09:33 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote:
Fair question or no?
Is his wife being investigated for something?
Clarence's is.
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(04-04-2023, 09:53 PM)GMDino Wrote: Is his wife being investigated for something?
Clarence's is.
So a family member of a judge has to meet the requirement of being under investigation in order to potentially have any influence on their judge family member. Got it
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(04-04-2023, 10:12 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: So a family member of a judge has to meet the requirement of being under investigation in order to potentially have any influence on their judge family member. Got it
If the wife (and daughter) are not in the public eye they should be off limits.
Ginny Thomas is very much in the public eye and her husband had to rule on a matter involving her and he did not recuse himself.
I don't know if wife of the judge in the Trump case is a public figure or not. Thus the answer to your question.
To answer you new question maybe she has influence on him, maybe not. Do we question the wives of every judge?
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(04-04-2023, 10:19 PM)GMDino Wrote: If the wife (and daughter) are not in the public eye they should be off limits.
Ginny Thomas is very much in the public eye and her husband had to rule on a matter involving her and he did not recuse himself.
I don't know if wife of the judge in the Trump case is a public figure or not. Thus the answer to your question.
To answer you new question maybe she has influence on him, maybe not. Do we question the wives of every judge?
Sure. Slap a public figure tag on them and put ‘em under the hot lamp. If they’re not on “my team” anyway! Then that’s off limits.
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(04-04-2023, 09:33 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote:
Fair question or no?
What did this New York judges wife do?
I know Thomas’ wife with all the clout of being married to a current SCOTUS judge had a hand in trying to overturn the will of the American people. Which is traitorous behavior imo.
I’m very interested for comparisons sake.
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(04-04-2023, 11:02 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Sure. Slap a public figure tag on them and put ‘em under the hot lamp. If they’re not on “my team” anyway! Then that’s off limits.
If you can't understand the difference between those situations then there isn't much hope for a rational conversation on the issue.
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(04-04-2023, 10:12 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: So a family member of a judge has to meet the requirement of being under investigation in order to potentially have any influence on their judge family member. Got it
A judge having a liberal daughter used to be nothing more than a plot of a possible sit-com and now it's presidential news. Oh, the side effects of making a celebrity the president.
We reap what we sow.
On a more serious note, a bunch of Trump appointed judges shut down the rigged election stuff and I don't recall Trump and his fan club declaring that they were given a fair shake and proven to be full of crap.
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(04-04-2023, 11:02 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Sure. Slap a public figure tag on them and put ‘em under the hot lamp. If they’re not on “my team” anyway! Then that’s off limits.
What do you know about the spouses of the other SC Justices? That answers your question.
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