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Trump issues warning to opponents
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/13/exclusive-president-donald-trump-paul-ryan-blocked-subpoenas-of-democrats/


Quote:President Donald Trump is not happy that former House Speaker Paul Ryan blocked subpoenas of people and entities Trump thinks the House GOP should have been investigating during the first two years of his administration.



Trump told Breitbart News in an exclusive lengthy Oval Office interview that Ryan blocked issuance of subpoenas to people he thinks should have been investigated on the political left, and now that the Republicans no longer have the majority in the House, people Trump says Ryan protected may have gotten away with whatever they did that warranted investigation.


Trump said that House Freedom Caucus Chairman Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) and his predecessor and fellow conservative Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) wanted to be tougher with the left, but that Ryan would not let them.

“Paul Ryan wouldn’t give the right to have any subpoenas,” Trump told Breitbart News. “Okay? Now in all fairness, Meadows and Jordan and all these guys, they wanted to go tougher, but they weren’t allowed to by leadership.”


Trump’s comments came in a wider part of the conversation about how the left is more “vicious” than the right—and that the left in American politics plays “cuter and tougher.”


“So here’s the thing—it’s so terrible what’s happening,” Trump said when asked by Breitbart News Washington Political Editor Matthew Boyle about how the left is fighting hard. “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress … with all this invest[igations]—that’s all they want to do is –you know, they do things that are nasty. Republicans never played this.”

Trump’s relationship with Ryan during Ryan’s tenure was fraught with peril from the get-go. Ryan only hesitantly backed 
Trump’s 2016 campaign in 2016 once Trump won the GOP nomination, but then backed off from supporting Trump after the release of the infamous Access Hollywood tape. Ryan ditched on a campaign event he had scheduled with Trump that weekend, and the following week held a conference call with House GOP members in early October 2016 in which he told members it would be acceptable to him if they abandoned the GOP nominee for president just weeks before the 2016 election.


“I am not going to defend Donald Trump—not now, not in the future,” Ryan said on the private call, audio of which was obtained by Breitbart News and published in early 2017.

Ryan followed through on that and never campaigned with Trump. When Breitbart News published this audio in the spring of 2017, his then-spokesman Brendan Buck claimed that “a lot has happened since then” and argued that Ryan was working with Trump on the president’s agenda in the first couple years of his administration.


With the exception of tax cuts, however, which the president led the way on, Ryan did not deliver much in the way of helping Trump achieve any of his agenda during the time Ryan served as Speaker while Trump served as president. Ryan became speaker in 2015, when then-Speaker John Boehner—facing a revolt from within his own GOP ranks—was forced to step aside. Others had sought the job and failed before Ryan eventually ended up running for the position.

Prior to being Speaker, Ryan was the failed 2012 vice presidential nominee for the GOP presidential ticket of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. With Ryan at his side, Romney, who has since left Massachusetts behind to move to Utah and now represents Utah in the U.S. Senate, lost the 2012 presidential election to then-President Barack Obama.


Then in early 2018, Ryan announced he would not be seeking re-election in the midterms. Critics argued that his not stepping aside hurt the GOP in the midterm elections. Now that Ryan is gone from public life, he took a sharp shot at Trump earlier this week.


“The person who defines that race is going to win the race,” Ryan said about the 2020 presidential race at a lecture in Florida per a local news account. “If this is about Donald Trump and his personality, he isn’t going to win it.”


Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump, Jr., fired back at Ryan on Twitter earlier in the week, saying the former speaker “failed” in 2012, “lied to us,” did not deliver border wall funding he promised previously, and then went on to lose the House GOP its majority in the midterms.
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Pretty rich. Mitt Romney’s failed 2012 running mate, the speaker who lied to us and didn't deliver Wall funding (and then lost the house) gives advice on winning.

Paul Ryan: Trump Will Lose in 2020 if Campaign About His 'Personality' https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-will-lose-in-2020-if-campaign-about-his-personality/ …

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Paul Ryan: Trump Will Lose in 2020 if Campaign About His 'Personality'
Paul Ryan said Monday that Trump could lose the 2020 presidential election if his "personality" is the central focus of his campaign. 
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Ryan has since walked back his criticisms of Trump’s 2020 prospects, saying that he meant to blame the media.
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Quote:“You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.



Spoken like the coward wannabe tough guy he is.
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This is literally what dictators do and is disgusting. Any military personnel that agrees with this despot is a disgrace to the uniform. We do NOT swear to serve the President, we swear to uphold and protect the Constituion and the people of the United States.
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Not too far off from what the right has been claiming for a while: that the left is full of weak snowflakes who get offended by anything but are incredibly violent and will harm you... Except that they're too passive... Unless they're not. Socialism.
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So does Ryan blocking the subpoenas make the Republicans the party of “no” still?
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(03-15-2019, 12:41 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: This is literally what dictators do and is disgusting. Any military personnel that agrees with this despot is a disgrace to the uniform. We do NOT swear to serve the President, we swear to uphold and protect the Constituion and the people of the United States.

Oh, there will be a couple.
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(03-15-2019, 06:47 AM)michaelsean Wrote: So does Ryan blocking the subpoenas make the Republicans the party of “no” still?

Only to the GOP.

Maybe he just couldn't stop himself after all those years of telling a Democrat POTUS that he couldn't get anything at all?
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(03-15-2019, 12:41 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: This is literally what dictators do and is disgusting. Any military personnel that agrees with this despot is a disgrace to the uniform. We do NOT swear to serve the President, we swear to uphold and protect the Constituion and the people of the United States.

I'm not sure what this means.   When did agreeing with the President become akin to serving the President?
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(03-15-2019, 02:02 AM)Benton Wrote: Not too far off from what the right has been claiming for a while: that the left is full of weak snowflakes who get offended by anything but are incredibly violent and will harm you... Except that they're too passive... Unless they're not. Socialism.

I just find it "funny" what DJT considers "tough people".  People in positions of authority with power and weapons and bikers.   Smirk

But I'm sure he just means he want;s them to campaign tougher.  Ninja
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(03-15-2019, 09:05 AM)michaelsean Wrote: I'm not sure what this means.   When did agreeing with the President become akin to serving the President?

It means the military should not follow unlawful orders of violence against the Presidents political opponents, as Trump is suggesting they would do.
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I always dreamed we'd get a president who would threaten us with our own police, military, and um...bikers just for good measure.
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(03-15-2019, 02:35 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I always dreamed we'd get a president who would threaten us with our own police, military, and um...bikers just for good measure.

He is not threatening real Americans.  Just "leftists."

Time for the military and police to step up and end these investigations into the Trump organization.

Why is Hillary still free?
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(03-15-2019, 02:47 PM)Dill Wrote: He is not threatening real Americans.  Just "leftists."

Good point.  I'll think twice when I go to cast my vote in 2020.  The military, the police, and practically everyone who owns a gun is going to be mad at me if I don't vote Trump.  
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(03-15-2019, 02:47 PM)Dill Wrote: Why is Hillary still free?

Same reason abortion is still legal, there's no wall, healthcareo costsare still going up and  jobs are still stagnant: if you fix things, there's little to run on. 

And that goes for both sides. Dems had a majority under Obama and a chance to fix healthcare. They pandered to lobbyists. The republicans had one more recently. They pandered to lobbyists
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There will be those who have no problem with Trump thinking he can use the military and police to attack his opponents and anyone who disagrees with him on his behalf.

It's a disgrace yes, but it's the America we live in and voters have spoken. This is what they want.
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(03-15-2019, 04:09 PM)jj22 Wrote: There will be those who have no problem with Trump thinking he can use the military and police to attack his opponents and anyone who disagrees with him on his behalf.

It's a disgrace yes, but it's the America we live in and voters have spoken. This is what they want.

I hear ya.  But it's one thing for Trump to warn people that illegals or terrorists will harm them if he doesn't get his way, but citing American citizens, particularly those sworn to protect us, as potential threats is a new political low.
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(03-15-2019, 12:41 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: This is literally what dictators do and is disgusting. Any military personnel that agrees with this despot is a disgrace to the uniform. We do NOT swear to serve the President, we swear to uphold and protect the Constituion and the people of the United States.

I wonder why it has that part about obeying the orders of the President of the United States...

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(03-15-2019, 08:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I wonder why it has that part about obeying the orders of the President of the United States...

A Soldier is free to disagree with his/her Commander in Chief The first Tuesday in November every 4 years. 

Soldiers protect democracy; they don't always get to employ it. 

It also includes the right to reject unlawful orders.
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(03-15-2019, 08:28 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: It also includes the right to reject unlawful orders.

I missed that part of the oath.

But bottom line: A soldier does swear to serve POTUS. 
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Hmm, wasn't the highlighted part of the OP actually quoted from a campaign rally speech?
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(03-15-2019, 08:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I missed that part of the oath.

But bottom line: A soldier does swear to serve POTUS. 

The right to refuse unlawful orders is in the Manual for Courts Martial.

In the oath we swear to obey the orders of the President, not the same as serving. We serve the people because we are the people’s military, not the President’s. The MCM protects the right to disobey an unlawful order. That rules stems from the defense of “I was only following orders”. Pretty sure ordering politically motivated attacks falls under that.





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