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Surprised no one has posted on this.
Trump threatens to dump immigrants into California’s ‘sanctuary cities’
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-migrants-sanctuary-cities-20190412-story.html
The plan would call for busing migrants from detention centers near the border and releasing them into the districts of Democratic lawmakers and other opponents of Trump’s immigration policies.
Though many other states have sanctuary counties and cities, Trump has repeatedly singled out California for criticism.
“California certainly is always saying, ‘Oh, we want more people,’ ” Trump told reporters during an unrelated White House event Friday. “And they want more people in their sanctuary cities. Well, we’ll give them more people. We can give them a lot. We can give them an unlimited supply. Let’s see if they’re so happy....
California Gov. Gavin Newsom said of Trump’s idea: “It is illegal. It is immoral. It is unethical. It is sophomoric. It is petulant. And it is par for the course.”
Rep. Bennie G. Thompson, the Mississippi Democrat who leads the House Committee on Homeland Security, said even the suggestion of sending detainees to sanctuary cities is “a reminder that the Trump administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty.” . . .
The Post reported that the idea was spearheaded by Stephen Miller, a White House advisor who has been the architect of some of Trump’s most provocative immigration proposals, including his ban on travel from several Muslim-majority countries. Miller had also urged Trump to embrace a child separation policy that was officially overturned in June, after two tumultuous months, but never completely ended.
After repeated suggestions by Miller, Homeland Security officials sought a formal legal opinionwhich said that the plan would be inappropriate and not in accordance with federal law.
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So Federal Law should prevent POTUS from dumping folks in locations that defy Federal Law.
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(04-13-2019, 12:37 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So Federal Law should prevent POTUS from dumping folks in locations that defy Federal Law.
Yes. The chief law enforcement officer in the nation should uphold the law, not break it to pursue personal vendettas.
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(04-13-2019, 01:14 AM)Dill Wrote: Yes. The chief law enforcement officer in the nation should uphold the law, not break it to pursue personal vendettas.
On this we agree. Unfortunately everyone does not.
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So, Trump said:
'California likes illegal immigrants? Fine, I'll send them the people who by and large commit less crime and pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Hah! That'll show them!'
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Not a crisis at the border. But heh, don't send them to us...
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(04-13-2019, 02:03 AM)Benton Wrote: So, Trump said:
'California likes illegal immigrants? Fine, I'll send them the people who by and large commit less crime and pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Hah! That'll show them!'
![Mellow Mellow](http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/indifferent/indifferent0012.gif)
Except the POTUS is saying these are drug dealers and killers and human traffickers and he will send them to US cities to prove it! He's a class A dbag.
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The biggest issue with this is that this takes resources, resources that they are saying they don't have for other purposes but are mysteriously going to come up with (even though nothing has been appropriated for it by Congress) in order to do this.
It'd be nice if our government functioned as it should.
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(04-15-2019, 09:16 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The biggest issue with this is that this takes resources, resources that they are saying they don't have for other purposes but are mysteriously going to come up with (even though nothing has been appropriated for it by Congress) in order to do this.
It'd be nice if our government functioned as it should.
That was allegedly brought up to DJT. Do you think he cares? It's about being vindictive that he can't just get his way without all these stupid "laws" getting the way.
Very few people are working toward a real solution. And with an administration that has almost zero leadership other than Trump it will get much worse before it gets better.
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Honestly I love it. The backlash from (mostly) twitter leftists is hilarious.
Good Trump.
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(04-15-2019, 10:41 AM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Honestly I love it. The backlash from (mostly) twitter leftists is hilarious.
Good Trump.
Weird. the "backlash" I saw was "okay..." even from the mayors of those cities.
Now there are SOME people pointing out the folly of Trump's "thinking"...but that comes almost any time he speaks publicly.
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Why is California the only lucky one? New Orleans is a sanctuary city, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver, those cities could use some new workers too.
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What exactly do my Left leaning friends want done with those that cross over illegally looking for asylum?
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(04-15-2019, 09:13 AM)GMDino Wrote: Except the POTUS is saying these are drug dealers and killers and human traffickers and he will send them to US cities to prove it! He's a class A dbag.
But we know they're not, so no biggie as far as doing it. Not the thought process.
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(04-15-2019, 11:51 AM)michaelsean Wrote: But we know they're not, so no biggie as far as doing it. Not the thought process.
But he doesn't know. So that's HIS thought process (such as he "thinks" at all.)
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(04-15-2019, 11:52 AM)GMDino Wrote: But he doesn't know. So that's HIS thought process (such as he "thinks" at all.)
Right. I'm saying the thought process is bad, but the action isn't a big deal.
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(04-15-2019, 11:53 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Right. I'm saying the thought process is bad, but the action isn't a big deal.
And the mayors of those towns agreed it's no big deal. Agreed.
But clearly Trump thinks he's throwing criminals in there. And since he thinks that it makes his thinking about it even worse.
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(04-15-2019, 11:37 AM)bfine32 Wrote: What exactly do my Left leaning friends want don't with those that cross over illegally looking for asylum?
A system where they can move toward getting work visas and green cards and eventual citizenship would be good. But why do that when you can just close (one) border?
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(04-15-2019, 11:57 AM)GMDino Wrote: A system where they can move toward getting work visas and green cards and eventual citizenship would be good. But why do that when you can just close (one) border?
I'm not sure you answered the question. What do you suggest we do with immigrants that cross illegally looking for asylum?
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