Your biggest issue with the Trump administration

[Belsnickel]

(05-22-2018, 08:09 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: A quarterly bonus is a raise. Anytime you get more money put into your pocket from your company, it's a raise. Who knows why they elect to do it that way. Maybe they feel that the pay system they have in place is solid and competitive, so giving raises would mess that up? Giving a bonus for the company meeting its goals is still a rise in your annual income, aka raise. You have to continue to earn it quarterly/annually etc.

I don't really care about your overall argument, but this bit is just false. Raises and bonuses are two different things.

[Bengalzona]

I'll put this out there for the guys on the left side of the aisle.

"What if Mueller was actually working with/for Trump?"

[GMDino]

(05-23-2018, 10:28 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I'll put this out there for the guys on the left side of the aisle.

"What if Mueller was actually working with/for Trump?"

This would have been wrapped up by now?  Just like the GOP investigation?

[Bengalzona]

(05-23-2018, 11:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: This would have been wrapped up by now?  Just like the GOP investigation?

Maybe. Or, maybe it could be a convenient way to distract attention from other things.... and at the end of the day say. "Nothing to see here, folks. Move along home."



(Obviously I've put my aluminum hat on here. But, then again, this is sort of how Putin does things.... feeding both sides, and playing them to manipulate them in a direction...)

[fredtoast]

(05-23-2018, 10:28 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I'll put this out there for the guys on the left side of the aisle.

"What if Mueller was actually working with/for Trump?"

So you mean Trump agrees to make himself look like a complete mororn for hiring a bunch of crooks and then claiming Russian interfernce was "fake news"?

What's the end game?  What does Trump have to gain from making himself look so stupid.

[Bengalzona]

(05-23-2018, 11:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So you mean Trump agrees to make himself look like a complete mororn for hiring a bunch of crooks and then claiming Russian interfernce was "fake news"?

What's the end game?  What does Trump have to gain from making himself look so stupid.

Agrees? Heck, let's say it is his idea. Wouldn't be the first time time, right? Plus, he knows he will only appear to be a moron to a percentage of the population. As for the rest, he could wear a swastika and they wouldn't care.

The end game is when Mueller comes out with nothing incriminating about Trump. In the meantime, Trump has secretly enacted some nefarious evil plan such as declaring himself dictator for life or something....

[NATI BENGALS]

(05-24-2018, 12:03 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Agrees? Heck, let's say it is his idea. Wouldn't be the first time time, right? Plus, he knows he will only appear to be a moron to a percentage of the population. As for the rest, he could wear a swastika and they wouldn't care.

The end game is when Mueller comes out with nothing incriminating about Trump. In the meantime, Trump has secretly enacted some nefarious evil plan such as declaring himself dictator for life or something....

Hey. They turned alternative facts into reality. Drained the swamp and filled it with super parasites... God damn Alex Jones is a presidential adviser. And living breathing clown anus that figured out how to apply makeup Sean Hannity speaks with the president every day.

Anyone who tries to discredit your conspiracy theory has never seen a Huckabee press conference and realized this is indeed the twilight zone

[BmorePat87]

1. The decline of our executive departments and administration that will severely impact us in the years to come. This includes the dismantling of, the promotion of inexperience and ignorance within the departments, and the loss of career staffers that are essential to these depts running.

2. The acceptance of outright lies from the White House

3. The decline in the prestige of the office of the President

[*michaelsean*]

(05-24-2018, 12:03 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Agrees? Heck, let's say it is his idea. Wouldn't be the first time time, right? Plus, he knows he will only appear to be a moron to a percentage of the population. As for the rest, he could wear a swastika and they wouldn't care.

The end game is when Mueller comes out with nothing incriminating about Trump. In the meantime, Trump has secretly enacted some nefarious evil plan such as declaring himself dictator for life or something....

I think Bush 43 and then Obama already did that.  It would seem neither did it very well though.

[*Nately120*]

Didn't Trump sign a bill to make it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns?

[SunsetBengal]

(05-24-2018, 07:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Didn't Trump sign a bill to make it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns?

Perhaps he's just going to allow Darwinism to reign free?

[Bengalzona]

I saw this today and found it interesting:

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/04/04/trump-supporting-friend-this-really-isnt-about-donald-trump/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=John%20Pavlovitz

Quote:Trump-supporting friend,

What we’ve got here is, failure to communicate…

I know you think I’m preoccupied with this President; that he is the reason I’m so angry and bitter and frustrated these days—but you’re wrong.

This isn’t about Donald Trump.

It’s never been about him.

It wasn’t about him during the campaign or on Election Day.
It wasn’t about him when recordings of him boasting about sexual assaults surfaced.
It wasn’t about him when he said protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up.
It wasn’t about him when he left refugee families stranded at the airport.
It wasn’t about him when he attacked the Press.
It wasn’t about him when he sabotaged the Affordable Care Act.
It wasn’t about him when he blamed racial violence on “both sides.”

And it isn’t about him today: it’s about us.

This is about me and it’s about you.

It’s about my grief at the ugliness you feel emboldened to post on social media now, the nastiness you seem newly capable of, the disgusting words you now so easily toss out around the dinner table.

It’s about my disbelief at your sudden tolerance for his infidelity, his cruelty, his intellectual ignorance, his disrespect for the rule of law—things you once claimed you could never abide.

It’s about my incredulity at your surprising resentment for marginalized people; for your inability to muster any compassion for those who are hurting or frightened or threatened.

It’s about my disappointment at your easily manipulated nationalistic fervor; how the God and Guns, America First, Love it or Leave it rhetoric, so easily took root in your heart—how hostile to outsiders and foreigners you’ve become.

It’s about my amazement at your capacity to make your faith so pliable, that you could amen a compulsive liar, a serial adulterer, a fear-mongering bully; a man in nearly every way antithetical to the Jesus you’ve always said was so dear to you.

It’s about my sickness seeing you excuse away his coddling of racists, his public attacks on the FBI, his impulsive firings of Cabinet members, his Tweet rants against individual citizens and American companies.

It’s about my grief seeing you respond to his near-hourly display of recklessness and overreach, with a shrug of your shoulders or a turning away from it all.

It’s about me watching you ignore in him and even celebrate in him, the very things you claimed made Hillary Clinton the ‘greater of two evils’ when you voted: blatant corruption, financial impropriety, pathological lies, lack of morality.

It’s about my sadness at seeing you make a million tiny concessions—and how easy it now is for you to sanction actions, that only two years ago you’d have told me fully disgusted you.

Most of all, it’s about me realizing that when all this is over—we are still going to have to deal with all of this. Our fractures are going to outlive this Presidency.

You see, I really don’t give a damn about Donald Trump.

He doesn’t matter to me. He never has.

He’s a three-time married, C-level reality TV celebrity, with a long and well-documented resume of sexual misconduct, financial disasters, and moral filth. He’s a professional predator who’s spent his life exploiting people for personal gain. That’s who he was before and who he will be when he leaves office.

Donald Trump, the President will be gone one day, and his disastrous Presidency will be well preserved. History will have documented his every lie, every misdeed, every abuse of power, every treasonous betrayal—and he will be fully revealed as the monster that many of us are fully aware that he is.

That’s not why I am so disgusted and so filled with sadness these days.

I don’t care about Donald Trump because I don’t know or live alongside or love or respect Donald Trump.

I know and live alongside and love and respect you—or at least I once did, and I’m going to have to try and do that again.

Our relationship and our family and our church and our neighborhood and our nation are going to be trying to clean up the messes long after this President is gone.

When this is all over, the divides and the fractures and the wounds between us are going to remain.

This is why I’m angry and bitter and frustrated; not because of Donald Trump—but because of me—and because of you.

[Beaker]

My biggest problem with trump is that someone needs to ban his childish azz from Twitter.

[Dill]

(05-25-2018, 12:56 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I saw this today and found it interesting:

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/04/04/trump-supporting-friend-this-really-isnt-about-donald-trump/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=John%20Pavlovitz

It’s about my grief at the ugliness you feel emboldened to post on social media now, the nastiness you seem newly capable of, the disgusting words you now so easily toss out around the dinner table.

It’s about my disbelief at your sudden tolerance for his infidelity, his cruelty, his intellectual ignorance, his disrespect for the rule of law—things you once claimed you could never abide.

It’s about my incredulity at your surprising resentment for marginalized people; for your inability to muster any compassion for those who are hurting or frightened or threatened.

It’s about my disappointment at your easily manipulated nationalistic fervor; how the God and Guns, America First, Love it or Leave it rhetoric, so easily took root in your heart—how hostile to outsiders and foreigners you’ve become.

It’s about my amazement at your capacity to make your faith so pliable, that you could amen a compulsive liar, a serial adulterer, a fear-mongering bully; a man in nearly every way antithetical to the Jesus you’ve always said was so dear to you.

It’s about my sickness seeing you excuse away his coddling of racists, his public attacks on the FBI, his impulsive firings of Cabinet members, his Tweet rants against individual citizens and American companies.

It’s about my grief seeing you respond to his near-hourly display of recklessness and overreach, with a shrug of your shoulders or a turning away from it all.

It’s about me watching you ignore in him and even celebrate in him, the very things you claimed made Hillary Clinton the ‘greater of two evils’ when you voted: blatant corruption, financial impropriety, pathological lies, lack of morality.

It’s about my sadness at seeing you make a million tiny concessions—and how easy it now is for you to sanction actions, that only two years ago you’d have told me fully disgusted you.

Most of all, it’s about me realizing that when all this is over—we are still going to have to deal with all of this. Our fractures are going to outlive this Presidency.

Does this guy REALLY resent "his coddling of racists, his public attacks on the FBI, his impulsive firings of Cabinet members, his Tweet rants against individual citizens and American companies" and his supporters' " sudden tolerance for his infidelity, his cruelty, his intellectual ignorance, his disrespect for the rule of law"--or does he just hate Trump?

[*bfine32*]

(05-25-2018, 11:06 PM)Dill Wrote: Does this guy REALLY resent "his coddling of racists, his public attacks on the FBI, his impulsive firings of Cabinet members, his Tweet rants against individual citizens and American companies" and his supporters' " sudden tolerance for his infidelity, his cruelty, his intellectual ignorance, his disrespect for the rule of law"--or does he just hate Trump?

Trump sure did "coddle racist" when he pardoned Jack Johnson. 

Sometimes folks just make things up to help them feel better about their hate. They are trying to deal with their cognitive dissonance the best they can. 

[Dill]

(05-25-2018, 11:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Trump sure did "coddle racist" when he pardoned Jack Johnson. 

Sometimes folks just make things up to help them feel better about their hate. They are trying to deal with their cognitive dissonance the best they can. 

I guess if Trump pardoned a long dead boxer, then he certainly can't be coddling racists when he says "Good people on both sides" during the Charlottesville riots. 

Maybe absence of cognitive dissonance is the real concern here.

Bad enough journalists have been making up things about Trump. Now the FBI is doing it too. To help them feel better.  

[JustWinBaby]

lmfao....this board is truly dying from Trump Derangement Syndrome. I could give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're trolling, but there's no one left here to troll....so you must actually believe the drivel you're spewing?

[Dill]

(05-29-2018, 02:20 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: lmfao....this board is truly dying from Trump Derangement Syndrome.   I could give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're trolling, but there's no one left here to troll....so you must actually believe the drivel you're spewing?

JustWin! Haven't seen you around since your last demonstration of "independent objectivity"--that was regarding US racial/voting history, wasn't it?

Monitoring your impressions and then sharing them with the forum seems a sure way to roll back "Trump Derangement Syndrome," which appears to strike mainly voters who resist the debasement of civil discourse and the violation of political norms which have operated since the founding of this country.  Trump has insulted a ton of women/reporters, fired an FBI director conducting an investigation into his campaign, falsely claimed the former president wiretapped him, paid off a porn star from a Russian-funded slush fund, and blown up the Paris Agreement, TPP, the Iran Deal--and we are still here!  That means everything is alright. Right? Tariffs on China are back this week. NK summit was off but now its on again. The office will change him . . . lol.

[*bfine32*]

(05-29-2018, 02:20 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: lmfao....this board is truly dying from Trump Derangement Syndrome.   I could give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're trolling, but there's no one left here to troll....so you must actually believe the drivel you're spewing?

I see a lot of folks pointing to personal traits they do not like, but many have focused on the actual issues. Also, to be fair, this thread is about what you do not like about the Trump Admin, so there should be a negative tone. It's the "good news" threads that folks bring up non-related negative issues, that shows true signs of TDS.

I will say that if I were to point to what I feel is his most negative personal trait; it would be his overly narcissistic nature. I must say I was not a fan of his Memorial Day tweet where he trivialized the memory of the fallen by saying how happy they would be about his Administration's  accomplishments. 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

My issue with Donald Trump is that he is a Democrat.